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Triplexiosis
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Isn't noticing other's "flaws" just a reflection of self, and what bothers one about himself (at least from my poor knowledge of analytical psychology). I used to dislike liars, later I figured out it was because I lied all the time. So spoting a "splinter" in another and avoiding the one in your eyes would be... hypocrisy?
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Redstorm
Prince of Bugs



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I don't lie very often, but I still don't like liars. They have caused me emotional pain and suffering, and that is enough for me.
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capliberty
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Re: Hypocrisy [Re: Redstorm]
#5764884 - 06/18/06 04:10 PM (17 years, 7 months ago) |
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Whats hypocritical is developing a self righteous attitude in which one has proclaimed an authoritative view in doing the will of god.
Prime example is my man G dub, and biggest blunder campaign of modern presidency of America, creating a big mess on behave of freedom and the explosion of evil. I guess I see his point, the ones getting blown to oblivion are free now,
well anyways, you could go on on about it, I guess the ends justify the means, so far my ends isn't being justified by these means.
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Icelander
The Minstrel in the Gallery


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Re: Hypocrisy [Re: Veritas]
#5764960 - 06/18/06 04:36 PM (17 years, 7 months ago) |
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Veritas said: Yes, damnit! 
Everybody knows I don't charge for it.
I can vouch for that.
-------------------- "Don't believe everything you think". -Anom. " All that lives was born to die"-Anom. With much wisdom comes much sorrow, The more knowledge, the more grief. Ecclesiastes circa 350 BC
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Icelander
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My PM to you was basically what I have posted here. I pointed out that debate with him is fruitless and encourages him. I also pointed out that I felt he was mentally unstable and so unfit to post in our forum. I didn't ask you to personally do anything and thats where you might have gotten the feeling I was spouting off on the guy. I usually just state my case and let you make up your mind. You told me exactly how you felt about my opinion and I replied "fair enough" sent you one of those little hearts and said I'll see you out in the fray. If I had been invested in beating this guy up I would have told you off because you didn't agree with me. I have been encouraging folks to actively ignore this user. If lots of people did that it would work. If folk here didn't care for that I might go back to confrontation. It worked on Fivepointer IMO and I haven't seen him post here in quite some time. Now I am basically open minded but when people threaten others with their religion I have a soft spot in my heart for disputing that aggressively as I know the damage it can do to peoples sense of self worth.
-------------------- "Don't believe everything you think". -Anom. " All that lives was born to die"-Anom. With much wisdom comes much sorrow, The more knowledge, the more grief. Ecclesiastes circa 350 BC
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Silversoul
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I admit that you've been dealing with him better lately than you have in the past, and your recent PM to me was not as nasty and bitter as your past PMs. Maybe that's a sign of growth, except that you don't seem to acknowledge your past behavior. But that's for you to work out, not me. I wish you well, and will continue to try and promote compassion and understanding in this forum and elsewhere.
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fireworks_god
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Icelander said: If folk here didn't care for that I might go back to confrontation. It worked on Fivepointer IMO and I haven't seen him post here in quite some time.
Now you're full of shit. 
Fivepointer returns from the mountain when the time is appropriate. Your actions have no bearing on this. Fivepointer has no regard for you and your confrontation. He is receiving the message, and he will return when necessary to proclaim it as he sees fit. 
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Icelander
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As I said I don't hate the guy. It's easy to see he's in lots of pain. My attempts to relate to him on a compassionate level in PM and otherwise have not met with success. My very intense pushing back at him was always an attempt to help him leave this forum and not hatred of him personally. His personal and unprovoked attacks do not enhance the quality of this forum. He seems to have created the same problems in other forums and I have been told that he used death threats in the PUB. Not a great way to debate.
-------------------- "Don't believe everything you think". -Anom. " All that lives was born to die"-Anom. With much wisdom comes much sorrow, The more knowledge, the more grief. Ecclesiastes circa 350 BC
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Icelander
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I often feel that if we had moderators who were involved with this forum I wouldn't feel compelled to police it myself.
-------------------- "Don't believe everything you think". -Anom. " All that lives was born to die"-Anom. With much wisdom comes much sorrow, The more knowledge, the more grief. Ecclesiastes circa 350 BC
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Silversoul
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I think he has trouble trying to express himself, and his ego gets in the way a lot, but there's some get stuff in his posts if you can sort through the bullshit. In any case, I think we've spent enough time beating this dead horse.
/me lights a joint and passes it to Icelander. 
No hard feelings, buddy
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Redstorm
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Yeah, I was just about to say that this discussion is inappropriate in this thread, and is disrespectful to the original thread-maker.
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Icelander
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Re: Hypocrisy [Re: Redstorm]
#5765290 - 06/18/06 06:25 PM (17 years, 7 months ago) |
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Veritas is used to me being inappropriate. Sorry sweetness.
-------------------- "Don't believe everything you think". -Anom. " All that lives was born to die"-Anom. With much wisdom comes much sorrow, The more knowledge, the more grief. Ecclesiastes circa 350 BC
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Redstorm
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No hard feelings. I love both you and Silversoul regardless of your respective bantering.
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fireworks_god
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Re: Hypocrisy [Re: Redstorm]
#5766807 - 06/19/06 04:47 AM (17 years, 7 months ago) |
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Redstorm said: Yeah, I was just about to say that this discussion is inappropriate in this thread, and is disrespectful to the original thread-maker.
Sounds about normal.
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fireworks_god
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fireworks_god said: Now you're full of shit. 
Fivepointer returns from the mountain when the time is appropriate. Your actions have no bearing on this. Fivepointer has no regard for you and your confrontation. He is receiving the message, and he will return when necessary to proclaim it as he sees fit. 
 Peace.
Speak of the devil! 
 Peace.
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redgreenvines
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Re: Hypocrisy [Re: Veritas]
#5766935 - 06/19/06 05:54 AM (17 years, 7 months ago) |
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a feigning to be what one is not or to believe what one does not; especially : the false assumption of an appearance of virtue or religion
Upon consideration, I have realized that it is not, in fact, religion to which I object. If all those who claim to practice Christ-worship emulated their Savior, this would be an amazing world to live in, whether you were a Christian or not. What I object to is hypocrisy, which seems to be SOP for the majority of those who proclaim their piety.
The only practicing Christians I have met were those who never announced it. They were loving and honest and happy, and, when asked about their beliefs, claimed no ultimate validity of their particular set, merely that it made them happy.
I must agree with Gandhi on this one: "I like your Christ, I do not like your Christians. Your Christians are so unlike your Christ."
I have a natural distrust of salesmen.
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