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Veritas

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And you are the ultimate authority on what lies in the hearts of others? You can accurately discern their intentions, emotions, beliefs, motivations & character? You have removed the "beam from thine eye" and can spy the splinter in Icelander's eye?
This is an excellent example of Christianity.
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Silversoul
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Re: Hypocrisy [Re: Veritas]
#5764600 - 06/18/06 02:34 PM (17 years, 7 months ago) |
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I'm sorry you feel that way. I wish I could help you understand.
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MushmanTheManic
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Grouphug?
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Silversoul
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Icelander
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I took plenty of time to "judge" DJ. I spoke to him many times in PM and on the boards. I tried differing tactics and found that nothing seemed to dent his position. So... because he does not on a regular basis follow the fair play rules of this forum, my intent is to help him go away. Either by confronting him directly on each of his flames etc. or by ignoring him completely. I'm willing to engage in whichever one of these will get the job done. My personal feeling is that he should not be posting here. Some or many may not agree but that's how I feel about the matter. If you want to ignore the forum rules on a continual basis then you don't belong here. That in no way means I hate the guy. I do dislike most of his posts.
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fireworks_god said: The original intention of subtly pointing fingers? 
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Silversoul said: I was hoping to subtly remind him to let go of anger, and not be so quick to judge others. Nothing more.
So I did win a lot of money. 
 Peace.
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Silversoul
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That's not the impression I got from the PM's you sent me.
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Veritas

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I believe that I have accurately grasped the situation.
Your post was made from the POV that you understand what is going on within someone else's character and heart, and that you are in a position to preach at him about it. This is what has alienated me from religious fellowship--there is no fellowship, only one-ups-manship and judgmental condescension. Dana Carvey as the "Church Lady" on SNL comes to mind.
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Re: Hypocrisy [Re: Veritas]
#5764626 - 06/18/06 02:39 PM (17 years, 7 months ago) |
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Veritas said: I believe that I have accurately grasped the situation.
You have not.
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I have just completed what remained of my sacrament. Time to partake in popcorn. 
I'm reminded of Bill Hick's opinion that marijuana shouldn't just be legal, that it should also be mandatory. "Here, you need to toke this!" "Oh, sorry, I guess I was taking life seriously for a moment." 
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Silversoul
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You're right. This is getting tiring. Obviously, my attempt to teach is being taken the wrong way. On the other hand, I'd rather the anger be directed at me than someone else.
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Veritas

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they are really just angry and vindictive.
So this is not a claim to a deep and full understanding of his nature and emotional state?
If I say "you are really just judgmental, preachy and sanctimonious," do I have more or less authority than you to claim that this is an accurate description of reality?
If I claim to be using this statement to teach you about your failings, does this mean that I am not unfairly judging you?
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I'm leaving to goto my brother-in-laws house, and when I come back tonight, I expect everyone to be sitting around a campfire singing songs and passing around hugs!
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Silversoul
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Re: Hypocrisy [Re: Veritas]
#5764656 - 06/18/06 02:48 PM (17 years, 7 months ago) |
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If I was being judgemental, preachy, and sanctimonious, then that would indeed be a valid and constructive criticism. That's different than calling people names and asking for them to be banned. I agree with Icelander about "tough love." I just felt that his actions did not match his words. It's actually based on his PM's, which I am not allowed to post, that I felt he was truly being vindictive.
But enough of this. My original point has been lost on everyone already, and has turned into a drama-fest, and for that I am indeed a hypocrite. Let's just end this now.
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I stated my position very clearly to you and told you basically what I have said here. I have encouraged others to confront him directly or ignore him. I fully admit that and have given my reasons. Some here seem to take him very seriously and ignore his unprovoked attacks on others. I have even told him that I felt some of his posts were spot on. Then I told him exactly what I objected to and encouraged him to drop the shit and be a contributing member of this forum. His response was not encouraging.
If you feel that his posts are beneficial for the most part and he does not make a habit of flaming (he is currently banned from the PUB for flaming)those he cannot functionally debate with, not to mention condemning his enemies to hell and proclaiming himself God Almighty, then you and I are not likely to agree on this one.
Weren't you one of the ones who wanted Swami banned for being negative and mocking people and disrupting the forums, or do I have you mixed up with someone else?
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Icelander said: Weren't you one of the ones who wanted Swami banned for being negative and mocking people and disrupting the forums, or do I have you mixed up with someone else?
You definitely have me mixed up. I was personally banned for defending Swami. I cannot recall ever calling for a member of this forum to be banned. I prefer to let people share their point of view, regardless of whether or not I agree.
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Veritas

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And regardless of whether they follow the only rule of this forum?
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Re: Hypocrisy [Re: Veritas]
#5764771 - 06/18/06 03:34 PM (17 years, 7 months ago) |
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Not calling you a whore?
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Veritas

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Re: Hypocrisy [Re: Redstorm]
#5764775 - 06/18/06 03:35 PM (17 years, 7 months ago) |
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Yes, damnit! 
Everybody knows I don't charge for it.
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