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Unfolding Nature Shop: Unfolding Nature: Being in the Implicate Order

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Re: What is life if not God-induced existance? [Re: Deviate]
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I am not sure how you can experience the Ulimate Reality though.


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Re: What is life if not God-induced existance? [Re: Shroomerious]
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it is immanent.

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Re: What is life if not God-induced existance? [Re: Deviate]
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Well, I can't experience it... Glad some of you can! :-)
Care to enlighten me?


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Re: What is life if not God-induced existance? [Re: Shroomerious]
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you are it, you're just not fully self aware.

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Re: What is life if not God-induced existance? [Re: Deviate]
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Even though what you say is a quite open minded statement, it still has some limitations. It is too self-centered and it excludes the possibilty of it to be not true. So it is an objective view in a subjective world which is kind of confusing. I understand what yousay by "you are it", I have writen it in my first ever post here, but I proposed this view as an alternative to some religions and as something which has more possibilities to be true. The true truth I have not experienced yet. If you say that this is the truth you have experienced and you think it is the ultimate truth, in my eyes, you are the same as these christians.

Love :-)))


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Re: What is life if not God-induced existance? [Re: Shroomerious]
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Even though what you say is a quite open minded statement, it still has some limitations. It is too self-centered and it excludes the possibilty of it to be not true.


couldn't this criticism apply to virtually any affirmative statement? if it would make a difference to you, just add a "maybe" to whatever ive said.

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Re: What is life if not God-induced existance? [Re: Deviate]
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Right. Explain to me how you have experienced it and how you can prove it besides your gut feeling. And it's not about adding a "maybe", it's about being really open minded. Also, I will say again that this truth has the flaw that is too self centered in my opinion.


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Re: What is life if not God-induced existance? [Re: Shroomerious]
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i dont know what you mean by "too self centered".

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Re: What is life if not God-induced existance? [Re: Deviate]
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I mean that you have concluded in this view by stating that your self awareness has reached it's max since you say that you have experienced the ultimate truth. You are talking about the ultimate truth by using only yourself as a judge.

But besides that. I would love to be persuaded of the ultimate truth.


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Re: What is life if not God-induced existance? [Re: Shroomerious]
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Deviate said:
it is immanent.

Shroomerious said:
Well, I can't experience it... Glad some of you can! :-)

If you can't experience That which is immanent, then you are brain dead or in a coma. Simply by reading and responding to these posts you are experiencing That which is immanent. God as immanent means that He is everywhere, He is everything: God is as much in this flower as in that dog turd.

It is too self-centered

Your definition of self-centered is:talking about the ultimate truth by using only yourself as a judge. However, there are actually many texts describing the state of awakening to the Truth, and there are people ("Masters") who are able to test people to see if they actually have awoken.

it excludes the possibilty of it to be not true.

It excludes the possibility of everything around us, the entire universe to not be true? Au contraire, this philosophy actually boldly makes the assertion that this universe is real, yet it isn't Real. It does exist (immanent), yet since it is temporary and finite, it isn't the absolute Reality (transcendent).


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Re: What is life if not God-induced existance? [Re: Shroomerious]
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God-Ultimate Reality is desiring to know you. Any heart that yearns for the Mystery will have it revealed to them. But do not take "I need to experience this first," as an approach. One's intentions need to be completely pure. One needs to fall in love with the Divine first. When the countenance is revealed in complete unity, complete awe will take you, followed by the most ecstatic feeling in your Heart. This Truth is not "self-centered", rather Spirit is pure. Spirit only gathers the wheat in the field, while the tares are unable to be harvested.


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"Have you found the beginning, then, that you are looking for the end? You see, the end will be where the beginning is. Congratulations to the one who stands at the beginning: that one will know the end and will not taste death."

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Re: What is life if not God-induced existance? [Re: Basilides]
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Glad you know how to read a lexicon, but I prefer to stick to the point and will not argue with you.


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