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No-Self, Egoless
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"Monks, we who look at the whole and not just the part, know that we too are systems of interdependence, of feelings, perceptions, thoughts, and consciousness all interconnected. Investigating in this way, we come to realize that there is no me or mine in any one part, just as a sound does not belong to any one part of the lute."

-Samyutta Nikaya, from "Buddha Speaks"

"It is important to remember always that the principle of egolessness does not mean that there was an ego in the first place, and the Buddhists did away with it. On the contrary, it means there was never any ego at all to begin with. To realize that is called 'egolessness'."

- Sogyal Rinpoche


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Re: No-Self, Egoless *DELETED* [Re: Sinbad]
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Re: No-Self, Egoless [Re: dorkus]
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yup there never was one
just the blurred unity as the frames flashed by
looking like a solid 3-d movie


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Re: No-Self, Egoless [Re: redgreenvines]
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Even the "solid" becomes vibrating energy, if you look closely enough.
:sun:

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Re: No-Self, Egoless [Re: Veritas]
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how do you think my eyes got separated out like that?


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Re: No-Self, Egoless [Re: redgreenvines]
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I thought perhaps your horizontal picture control needed adjustment. :grin:

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Re: No-Self, Egoless [Re: Veritas]
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yes come to think of it there are not enough eyes shifting that way.
we need more shifty eyes.

egohst beware we are watching!


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Re: No-Self, Egoless [Re: redgreenvines]
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:shiftyeyes:  :shiftyeyes:  :shiftyeyes:  :shiftyeyes:  :shiftyeyes:

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Re: No-Self, Egoless [Re: Sinbad]
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:levitate:

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Re: No-Self, Egoless [Re: Veritas]
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zactly so


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Re: No-Self, Egoless [Re: dorkus]
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Here's two more for you.

" Samadhi Raja Sutra

Know all things to be like this:
A mirage, a cloud castle,
A dream, an apparition,
Without essence, but with qualities that can be seen.

Know all things to be like this:
As the moon in a bright sky
In some clear lake reflected,
Though to that lake the moon has never moved.

Know all things to be like this:
As an echo that derives
From music, sounds, and weeping,
Yet in that echo is no melody.

Know all things to be like this:
As a magician makes illusions
Of horses, oxen, carts and other things,
Nothing is as it appears."

The Buddha

"The one thing to be attained is essentially void and compassionate. Let me explain.The realisation of voidness is the absolute spirit of enlightenment; it is seeing that all things are unborn. Compassion is the relative spirit of enlightenment; it is reaching out in love to all beings who have yet to realise that they are unborn. Those who follow the Mahayana path should develop these two forms of the spirit of enlightenment."

- Drom Tonpa


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Re: No-Self, Egoless [Re: Sinbad]
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i dont have good vision, my eyes didnt split, my arms decided to serve a different purpose and feel all my perceptions of reality rather than using myself to actively experience them

:laugh:

"find your own path"
-me


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"It is easier to teach a computer to play chess than to build a mudpie."Sherry Turkle Life on the Screen: Identity in the Age of the Internet
"Not everything that counts can be counted, and not everything that can be counted counts"-Einstein
:mrt: I pity the fool who break traffic laws with $870,000 of drugs in the car.      -mo0nlite_sonata
Psythos

Edited by TheGus (01/19/06 04:43 PM)

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Re: No-Self, Egoless [Re: Sinbad]
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Just living the dream. :wink:


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"Don't believe everything you think". -Anom.

" All that lives was born to die"-Anom.

With much wisdom comes much sorrow,
The more knowledge, the more grief.
Ecclesiastes circa 350 BC

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Re: No-Self, Egoless [Re: Icelander]
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im tryin to have as much fun in it as i can :laugh:


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"It is easier to teach a computer to play chess than to build a mudpie."Sherry Turkle Life on the Screen: Identity in the Age of the Internet
"Not everything that counts can be counted, and not everything that can be counted counts"-Einstein
:mrt: I pity the fool who break traffic laws with $870,000 of drugs in the car.      -mo0nlite_sonata
Psythos

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Re: No-Self, Egoless [Re: Sinbad]
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Nice quotes! Thanks for sharing them! :thumbup:

:peace: :heart:


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Ahuwale ka nane huna.

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Re: No-Self, Egoless [Re: TheGus]
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TheGus said:
im tryin to have as much fun in it as i can :laugh:


Good, relax and enjoy. Relaxing seems to me to be the great secret to joyfull living. Relax your body and your mind will follow. According to Moshe Feldenkrais, it's easier than doing it the other way around.


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"Don't believe everything you think". -Anom.

" All that lives was born to die"-Anom.

With much wisdom comes much sorrow,
The more knowledge, the more grief.
Ecclesiastes circa 350 BC

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Re: No-Self, Egoless [Re: Icelander]
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Wake up every morning with a smile on your face. Great way to start the day.  :smile2:


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Re: No-Self, Egoless [Re: Icelander]
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Icelander said:
Just living the dream. :wink:


Thats the problem. We need to Wake Up!


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Re: No-Self, Egoless [Re: Sinbad]
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The first couple of quotes illustrate the reason why laughter is heard whenever someone mentions "ego-loss", as if there were an ego to do away or somehow "lose" through the use of chemical substances. :lol:

With correct training and discipline one realizes that there never was an ego to lose or somehow extinguish in the first place. It becomes obvious that claims of any such experiences of "ego-loss" and "ego-death", are'nt at all simliar or equatable the actual realization of egolessness. :smile:

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Re: No-Self, Egoless [Re: Sinbad]
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To me ego is just a term for a function of the human organism. I don't know what you are referring to but something is going on, whether it be dreaming or no. It would be impossible to lose your ego as it is the self. What happens on the "big trip" is that the cultural program/fear based defense system is relaxed so that one can see that there is more going on and things aren't what they seem from a narrow perspective.


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"Don't believe everything you think". -Anom.

" All that lives was born to die"-Anom.

With much wisdom comes much sorrow,
The more knowledge, the more grief.
Ecclesiastes circa 350 BC

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