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Unfolding Nature Shop: Unfolding Nature: Being in the Implicate Order

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Re: Revisiting Enlightenment. [Re: Cherk]
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Consciousness has no independent, self-existence, no. It is dependent upon causes and conditions to support its temporary arising, just like everything else (check the sig)

P.S. Are you always stoned when you come on here? :lol:


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Re: Revisiting Enlightenment. [Re: Sinbad]
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How can you know this without a permanent object and a temporary subject?

What is that thing that is depenent upon nothing depending on?



and, no.


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I have considered such matters.

SIKE

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Re: Revisiting Enlightenment. [Re: Cherk]
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Why does either subject or object have to be permanent? Both are temporary arisings. Neither arise without a cause.

You're trying to spin my head with those circular questions. :lol:


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Re: Revisiting Enlightenment. [Re: Sinbad]
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Sinbad said:
Why does either subject or object have to be permanent? Both are temporary arisings. Neither arise without a cause.

You're trying to spin my head with those circular questions. :lol:


It is not either/or.  Only one is temporary. 

You are talking about comprehension before there can be such a thing.  Something must exist to be filled.  Naturally our minds are filled with thoughts, but what fills our bodies except time?  It is Brahman that is all.


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Re: Revisiting Enlightenment. [Re: Cherk]
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I would question the methods only. Seems as though 'the end times' has to come on a personal level first and foremost. I really feel that operating on old programs won't produce enlightenment. Maybe just some perverted western capitalistic endarkenment. When you collapse the house of cards (ego) for good is when the path is most clear. Otherwise you're still thinking as a human.


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Re: Revisiting Enlightenment. [Re: backfromthedead]
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I am looking at nothing to sink my teeth into
and it is good.


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Re: Revisiting Enlightenment. [Re: redgreenvines]
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That was a good thread and worthy read.

Two labels were applied to my own experience by those who witnessed it; the first was "enlightened" the second was "schizophrenic". The irony is, I didn't know what either of those words meant nor did I know how to Be either of those things -- I had not been on a formal spiritual path prior to that experience and I had never before encountered anyone that (as far as I knew) was "schizophrenic".

So, I went looking for answers and eventually found myself tossing out both descriptors as based on their limitations. It seems to me that no one in their right mind would want to be this thing called "enlightened" because by accepting that label you are placing a box around your actions; you are limiting yourself.

Still, for every time there is a season...

If it was possible for a crawling body to identify walking as something one wished to do, they might take that upon themselves to become that thing -- a walker. This would be their goal, their aspiration, they would study and practice it and quite possibly, find themselves walking one day. But after many days of walking, they would no longer find it suited their purposes to be "a walker". Walking was just something they did, along with many other "walkers". The label fades to the background, fades to unimportance, falls away. It's just nothing of importance, and this is how it should be. Besides, there's still running and flying to tackle.

"There are no enlightened people, there is only enlightened action."

I can't recall now who said that, but I like it.



Music of the Hour: Like A Stone


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Edited by spiritualemerg (03/31/07 07:28 AM)

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