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"The transformation of mind and heart does not happen overnight but through a gradual process.  Although it is true that in some cases instantaneous spiritual experiences may be possible, they are rather unreliable and somewhat shortlived.  The problem is that when sudden experiences occur like bolts of lightning, the individual may feel profoundly moved and inspired, but if the experiences are not grounded in discipline and sustained effort they are very unpredictable, and their transformative impact will be rather limited.  By contrast, a genuine transformation that results from sustained concerted effort is long-lasting because it has a firm foundation.  This is why long-term spiritual transformation can really only come about through a gradual process of training and discipline."

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Shroomnoob said:

Then your pretty fucking far from being enlightened. If hear anyone else say that after their last trip they sensed that they where on the verge of breaking through I'm gonna puke.

Listen, you where high, stoned, fucked up and the only thing you where on the verge of reaching was your toilet.

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. . . And then, suddenly, everything is new, because mind was making everything old through its interpretation. Suddenly you are a child again. Your eyes are fresh and young, you look at things without knowledge, without learning. Suddenly the trees have a freshness, the greenery has changed -- it is not dull, it is alive. Suddenly the sound of a bird is absolutely different.

This is what is happening to many people through drugs. Aldous Huxley became intensely fascinated by drugs because of this. All over the world the new generation is so attracted by drugs. The reason is this: because the drug for a moment, or for a few moments, chemically puts the mind aside. You look at the world, now the colours all around are simply miraculous. You had never seen such a thing! An ordinary flower becomes the whole existence, carries the whole glory of the Divine. An ordinary leaf becomes so deep, as if the whole Truth is revealed through it. Everything and anything immediately changes. The drug cannot change the world; the drug is only chemically putting your mind aside.

But you can become addicted to it -- then the mind has absorbed the drug too. Only once, in the beginning, for the first time, or twice, or three times, you can deceive the mind chemically. By and by, the mind becomes attuned to the drug. Then it demands, and now the demand is coming from the mind. Now, by and by, even chemically, you will not be able to push the mind aside. It will be there. You will be addicted. Trees will become old again, colours will not be so radiant, things will again become dull. The drug has killed you; it couldn't kill the mind.

The drug can only give you a shock-treatment. It is a shock to the whole body chemistry. In that shock, the old adjustement is broken. Gaps are there; through the gaps you can look, but this cannot be made a practice. You cannot practice a drug. Sooner or later, it becomes part of the mind; the mind takes over. Only meditation can kill the mind -- nothing else. Meditation is mind suicide, mind committing suicide.

Without any chemicals, without any physical means, if you can put the mind aside, then you become the master. And when you are the master, everything is new. It has always been so. From the very beginning to the very end, everything is new, young, fresh. Death has never occured in this world. It is life eternal.

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Swami said:
(Heh, heh. The phone rang just as I was typing this and there was no message!)

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What if the phone rings again? (i.e. LSD presents itself at another time and place?) I seriously doubt Watts only tripped once!

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