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A Momentary Lapse of Reason (or, Enlightenment)
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Many members of this forum have engaged in psychedelic journeys, and maintain different kinds of spiritual practices.  Lots of discussion continues about being enlightened.. it seems that often someone's first post has to do with enlightenment.

Attaining it, whether it was 'real' or not :P , and how/what to do with oneself now that one has had such an experience.

Here is what Antero Alli has to say about these kind of experiences:

"Without any ongoing application of ritual experiences and insights, how easy it is to lapse back into previous daily habits, routines and behaviors as if nothing happened. Why is this ? Because without some integration and transmission of meaningful experiences nothing really did happen or, can happen. Ponder this. Just because something feels meaningful when it happens doesn't necessarily mean it will be meaningful or continue that way, beyond our emotional memory of that moment.


Our most cherished and unintegrated experiences and impresssions feed the wellspring of our memory bank where they gradually transform into the very sediment of our souls. Here these emotionally-charged images remain within the sphere of our innermost lives with little access to the outside world of others. Isolation ensues. As this internal sediment grows richer with layers upon layers of unintegrated experiences, so do the personalities they support slowly implode under the cumbersome weight of self-absorbtion.


The integration of vertical sources into the horizontal world at large involves a process of bridge-building between the soul's vast internal landscape and the external world of other people and events. This bridge-building process constitutes the central work of true Self-initiation, where neither the inner life of the soul -- the vertical domain -- nor the outer events of others and the world -- the horizontal domain -- matters as much as the fibers maintaining their connectivity. To live as bridge-builders, we must also live with a kind of double vision, of holding an awareness tof both vertical and horizontal realms so as to best serve their ongoing interface."

I thought this was prescient advice for all seekers and occasional glimpsers of the divine.  Integrate :smile:  Don't simply obsess over how you FELT, what happenED.  Figure out how you can incorporate these views, feelings, insights, what have you into your daily life.

What really happens is small beans compared to your reaction to it.

Peace


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Jumped in a river, what did I see?
Black eyed angels swimming with me
Moon full of stars and astral cars, all the figures I used to see
All my lovers were there with me
All my past and all my futures
We went to heaven in a little rowboat
There was nothing to fear and nothing to doubt

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Re: A Momentary Lapse of Reason (or, Enlightenment) [Re: TrippinNinjaBuddha]
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That's powerful. :smile:

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Re: A Momentary Lapse of Reason (or, Enlightenment) [Re: Asankhya]
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as regards integration, I took this as the most meaningful piece
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Without any ongoing application of ritual experiences and insights, how easy it is to lapse back into previous daily habits, routines and behaviors


and I found the use of "vertical" interesting. an additional geometry underlies his metaphysics.


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:brainfart: _ :finger:

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