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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: Huskies]
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Hi everyone,

First time going to grain. Using unmodified lids.
Have 3 questions.

1.
Do I crack them open with a 1/4 turn immediately or do I wait until, e.g. first shake or something like that?

2.
Should I keep the bottles in some kind of a container, like a styrofoam box with a lid, or can I keep them in the cupboard?

3.
When do I shake? I'm looking at Mckenna's book (I know, outdated), he says on 4th, 6th, 8th and 10th day after inoculation.

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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: drVetker] * 1
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Crack them a QUARTER INCH after inoculation. Not a quarter turn.

The cupboard is perfect.

I shake at 20% and 80% usually. It’s not based on time but percentage of colonization.


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Edited by myc_ousin_vinny (03/26/23 08:58 PM)

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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: myc_ousin_vinny]
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During PC and after inoculation they should be cracked. Between PC and inoculation, keep it fully tightened.

I'd recommend polyfil over unmodded lids though, surely you can borrow some stuffing from a pillow? :awesome:

You can keep them anywhere between 68-78ish Fahrenheit. Indirect sunlight is great, direct should be avoided, total darkness is meh.

Shake once at 20-30% colonization is consensus I think, don't shake on a schedule. You can also shake to test for contamination levels. Should see good recovery at least within a few days.


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Edited by dowodenum (03/26/23 09:16 PM)

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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: myc_ousin_vinny]
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myc_ousin_vinny said:
Crack them a QUARTER INCH after inoculation. Not a quarter turn.

The cupboard is perfect.

I shake at 20% and 80% usually. It’s not based on time but percentage of colonization.


Ah fuck, I read pasty's lid tek and read it like 1/4 turn.
Thank you.

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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: dowodenum]
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Thank you sir

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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: drVetker]
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drVetker said:
myc_ousin_vinny said:
Crack them a QUARTER INCH after inoculation. Not a quarter turn.

The cupboard is perfect.

I shake at 20% and 80% usually. It’s not based on time but percentage of colonization.


Ah fuck, I read pasty's lid tek and read it like 1/4 turn.
Thank you.


I made the same mistake when I first read it too.. Also, what dowodenum said about before, during and after etc is very important.


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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: myc_ousin_vinny]
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Oki doke. Thank you both

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Re: Why are these jars stalled? [Re: drVetker]
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Ive been having issues getting my tub to fruit, and suspect its due to surface conditions. It definitely doesnt have smalll water droplets on the surface like it says its supposed to in some. With my radiator on the air is quite dry (30%) and even misting twice a day seems to make the surface more wet than put small droplets on it. The mycelium also looks flat  and dull, not fluffy.
I used half a coir brick and 4 grain jars (720ml). I was wondering whether going back to alao using vermiculite, in the sense of cvg bulk material or also a pure verm casing might help, what do you think?
I can add pics to if neccesary. Oh and its been a month.


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Re: Why are these jars stalled? [Re: polaritymind] * 1
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polaritymind said:
Ive been having issues getting my tub to fruit, and suspect its due to surface conditions. It definitely doesnt have smalll water droplets on the surface like it says its supposed to in some. With my radiator on the air is quite dry (30%) and even misting twice a day seems to make the surface more wet than put small droplets on it. The mycelium also looks flat  and dull, not fluffy.
I used half a coir brick and 4 grain jars (720ml). I was wondering whether going back to alao using vermiculite, in the sense of cvg bulk material or also a pure verm casing might help, what do you think?
I can add pics to if neccesary. Oh and its been a month.


Sounds like misting and drying out created a matted surface that is now having a hard time absorbing water.

Straight coir is loved by many, including me, but I do think coir and verm is better. It definitely holds the water better and doesn't dry out as fast in my experience.  I wouldn't bother adding gypsum into the mix.

If you did coir and verm next time, I'm betting you'd end up misting less and have an easier time maintaining surface conditions.

For now, reduce fae and try to avoid misting as much. The mycelium will probably become fluffy again but who knows if it'll still fruit after this long.


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Re: Why are these jars stalled? [Re: drVetker] * 1
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:whathesaid:
And changing subject back :smirk:


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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: drVetker] * 3
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Unnecessary misting is a surefire way to delay pins with matted, oversaturaded substrate surface. If you're properly hydrating the sub prior to spawning there's no requirement for more water before the flush has been chopped.

Contaminated spawn will produce the same result especially in combination with over misting. Clean spawn, sufficient initial water input, and a decent top layer will produce a flush even in the driest environment.

Vermiculite is always a great addition even though it's not 100% necessary. Verm adds a nice fluffy/light texture and a bit more water retention; it's particularly helpful to avoid over compaction when compressing your sub, if that's what you're into.

Also, don't change the title of the post:oldman2:

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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: Stipe-n Cap] * 8
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You damn kids stay off my subject line


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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: Smellyhobbit] * 1
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Does anybody have cultures or spores for a species with bioluminescent mycelium??


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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: A.k.a]
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A.k.a said:
Does anybody have cultures or spores for a species with bioluminescent mycelium??


I believe SirPsycho does, if I'm not mistaken.

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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: Stipe-n Cap]
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Wow, that would be cool.

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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: Stipe-n Cap]
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Yes, Bitter Oyster.


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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: Guerrilla] * 2
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Ugh, I think I got trichoderma for the first time. My first flush in this mono.

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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: abductee] * 2
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That do be trich. My condolences.


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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: Smellyhobbit]
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Thanks,  I thought so. I was just checking out different post. I read I could put some baking soda to raise the ph on that area to stop it from spreading to finish the flush. I probably only have another day or two until the flush is done. I have potassium bicarbonate wich I believe to be more potent than baking soda, I might read up on that post on dealing with early trich.

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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: abductee] * 2
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It won’t do anything. It’s all throughout your sub already. You could keep it in the garage or something until it’s done?


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