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Re: Post Your Cultivation Picture of The Day [Re: Jrotten]
    #26741953 - 06/13/20 02:35 PM (3 years, 10 months ago)

Hey y'all! So this is my first venture into non-cubes. There are panaeolus cyanescens, and P. Gallindoi ATL#7. I'm really not sure what to look for as far as clean mycelium with these species, but my gut tells me it's time to make transfers. What do you think? I inoculated these via spore syringe using a streak plate+inoculation loop. Thanks.


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Re: Post Your Cultivation Picture of The Day [Re: AceJensen]
    #26741959 - 06/13/20 02:38 PM (3 years, 10 months ago)

For pans I would go for 6 on the left colony in the third pic. Just stay away from puffy pan myc.


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Re: Post Your Cultivation Picture of The Day [Re: A.k.a]
    #26741973 - 06/13/20 02:45 PM (3 years, 10 months ago)

3 days after top 4 got a shake. Someone's not right :drooling:


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Re: Post Your Cultivation Picture of The Day [Re: A.k.a]
    #26742028 - 06/13/20 03:18 PM (3 years, 10 months ago)

Thanks aka. I'll make that transfer tonight. Anyone got any advice on the ATL #7 situation?

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Re: Post Your Cultivation Picture of The Day [Re: AceJensen]
    #26742036 - 06/13/20 03:21 PM (3 years, 10 months ago)

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Hey y'all! So this is my first venture into non-cubes. There are panaeolus cyanescens, and P. Gallindoi ATL#7. I'm really not sure what to look for as far as clean mycelium with these species, but my gut tells me it's time to make transfers. What do you think? I inoculated these via spore syringe using a streak plate+inoculation loop. Thanks.






look at the top of this page i just posted these today. i like going after this type of growth


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Re: Post Your Cultivation Picture of The Day [Re: jcm4620] * 2
    #26742077 - 06/13/20 03:37 PM (3 years, 10 months ago)

I know small subs can produce huge fruits but after a few experiments I’m convinced that while anything could happen fruit size is correlated to sub size to a certain extent.


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Re: Post Your Cultivation Picture of The Day [Re: A.k.a]
    #26742110 - 06/13/20 03:54 PM (3 years, 10 months ago)

I think so too ak. I have a certain size that i consider normal or average from doing all monos before and with shoe boxes everything is just miniaturized a bit.


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Re: Post Your Cultivation Picture of The Day [Re: Roger Clemency] * 1
    #26742131 - 06/13/20 04:05 PM (3 years, 10 months ago)

its hard to say as i have had both from both i just think it has more to do with genetics mostly. i tried kinda somethin with that 1 time i took a known good culture that gave me huge fruits and i put it into a very small sub and it grew damn near the same size fruits as it did in my normal sized subs. just only a cpl fruits and then i took the aame size sub and used a culture that was known to produce small below average fruits and i had the same size fruits i expected just more of them. so i kinda just came to think its mostly genetic but it also is about the amount of available nutes to feed those genetics. do u know what i mean🤷🏼🤷🏼 iv always kinda wondered this myself my lil test was just for my own amusement was all i wasnt really trying to be all crazy about it


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Re: Post Your Cultivation Picture of The Day [Re: jcm4620]
    #26742141 - 06/13/20 04:17 PM (3 years, 10 months ago)

Yeah I think if you’ve got a freak culture it’ll still put out big ones but I’ve been g2ging and then putting 4-5 jars in a big tub and one in a shoebox and the shoebox is like 2/3 size everytime. And then this little cup was the same jar that went into the shoebox on the left here.




Like I said anything can happen as we’ve seen from people getting 90g fruits off a half pint cake but the overall average size is definitely affected imo at this point. Definitely going to continue and try feeding more water to the small subs and stuff.


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Re: Post Your Cultivation Picture of The Day [Re: A.k.a] * 1
    #26742300 - 06/13/20 05:41 PM (3 years, 10 months ago)

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A.k.a said:
I know small subs can produce huge fruits but after a few experiments I’m convinced that while anything could happen fruit size is correlated to sub size to a certain extent.





It’s relative to the quantity of viable pinning locations.

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Re: Post Your Cultivation Picture of The Day [Re: Pastywhyte]
    #26742330 - 06/13/20 05:53 PM (3 years, 10 months ago)

Do you mean like if it’s got more room it’s likely to get bigger kinda like snakes? Or that when there’s more pins you’re just more likely to see a variety of sizes?


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Re: Post Your Cultivation Picture of The Day [Re: A.k.a]
    #26742465 - 06/13/20 06:55 PM (3 years, 10 months ago)

I once read something that RR said along the lines of one of the reason for larger fruits after the first flush is due to the sub being torn up/sub-optimal for pinning due to the damage caused from harvesting the initial flush. So, instead of the sub putting all it's energy in lots and lots of fruits, it instead puts that same energy into the few fruits able to pin and mature. Thus leading to larger fruits. I think that may be kind of what he's talking about. I have no idea if that's true or not, but it's just something I remember reading.

I could also be completely wrong in my understanding of what he was trying to get across lol


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Re: Post Your Cultivation Picture of The Day [Re: Gan] * 2
    #26742540 - 06/13/20 07:30 PM (3 years, 10 months ago)

There's also considerably more water available in larger substrates, mushrooms are mostly water. Supplying more water to smaller substrates can produce larger flushes, floating a sub at pinning will do this with shoeboxes.

There is a very good example of this on the forum somewhere, I believe it was posted years ago by RR to illustrate that large fruits can be grown on extremely small substrates so long as ample water is supplied. It was a picture of a giant fruit on a minuscule portion of sub.

Oversaturating sub prior to pinning creates tiny fruits, however if you float a sub while pins are growing they suck up the water to aid growth.

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RogerRabbit said:
The reason deeper substrates support larger flushes and fruits is because larger substrates hold more moisture.  If you give proper moisture control to small substrates, they will perform well too.  It's all about water, as can be seen by the picture below of very large mushrooms on a very small substrate.  It's all about misting and fresh air, from initiation through harvest.
RR





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Re: Post Your Cultivation Picture of The Day [Re: Quadryder] * 1
    #26742576 - 06/13/20 07:45 PM (3 years, 10 months ago)

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B+ spawned 4-27, had like 4 flushes of a few small clusters then BAM pins everywhere.





Here is this tub a few mins ago.


It has pulled from the walls quite some bit not sure if I should maybe bottom water?
I also don't know if I should pick the larger ones now and let the smaller fruits grow up more, or just let it all grow up and keep the large ones in.

I also plan on cloning one of the fruits with the open cap in hopes of perpetuating that variety? strain? idk.
I would do this by opening the stem, and sterile tweezing a piece of inner flesh onto a plate.

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Re: Post Your Cultivation Picture of The Day [Re: Quadryder] * 2
    #26742621 - 06/13/20 08:13 PM (3 years, 10 months ago)

Coir cakes from Water Tub


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Re: Post Your Cultivation Picture of The Day [Re: Mateja]
    #26742632 - 06/13/20 08:17 PM (3 years, 10 months ago)



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Re: Post Your Cultivation Picture of The Day [Re: Stipe-n Cap]
    #26742646 - 06/13/20 08:27 PM (3 years, 10 months ago)

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It's all about water, as can be seen by the picture below of very large mushrooms on a very small substrate.  It's all about misting and fresh air, from initiation through harvest.
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Haha I want something like this as the centerpiece of my coffee table in the living room


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Re: Post Your Cultivation Picture of The Day [Re: Gan]
    #26743162 - 06/14/20 01:30 AM (3 years, 10 months ago)

Ecuadorian 3rd flush. Could have picked that a little earlier but looks cool imo


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Re: Post Your Cultivation Picture of The Day [Re: Pastywhyte]
    #26743223 - 06/14/20 02:32 AM (3 years, 10 months ago)

Ay! Pastys on. Good to see you man. Learn anything interesting lately? Workin on anything cool?

I finally got a 75x and i think im gonna marry it


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Re: Post Your Cultivation Picture of The Day [Re: saralove] * 8
    #26743323 - 06/14/20 04:27 AM (3 years, 10 months ago)

experimenting with a little time lapse ...


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