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Offlinexoch
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Re: Cultivation , The Shroomery and the Law [Re: NuShroomPharmerII]
    #312152 - 05/08/01 10:21 AM (19 years, 9 months ago)


As far as pic of mushrooms go you can not id a mushroom on the physiology alone.
There a contributing factors that will make the mushroom maybe contain psilocybin.Envirorment,blueing reaction,color of spore print.No pics here show all those parameters when posting.Even if your face is in it with out any physical evidence.This is will not hold up for a jury trail.There was a case i read about were there were pic.of a guy hitting out of a bong they had raided the house to find nothing.No one could id the type of smoke coming out of the persons mouth.Just cuz some cop saw someone's pic on here this does not give them the right to kick the door down.Yes there are such a thing as a warrentless search And seizure.But this has to be done by narc that has credibly.He has to of had lots of other convictions under his belt.Beside that as far as mushroom cult.the only other way to enter the house is controlled buy's usually 2 or 3 and they are in.As Far as these kits go they have the same legalities that hyro places that sell lights do.How many people do you know that grow vegetbles in there house under hid's.Mcman how can you compare contributing to manufacturing a cds to murder?Ii can see fraud but not murder.Ever states
law differ so this is just for one.




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Re: Cultivation , The Shroomery and the Law [Re: McMan]
    #312176 - 05/08/01 11:15 AM (19 years, 9 months ago)

I live in Europe and many of us europeans think that those
laws are really sick, we also have countries with some restrictive laws, i live in Portugal wich is one of those countries (boy i love The Netherlands!!!!) but we manage to safely grow shrooms altough Psylocibin and Psylocin are listed as prohibited narcotics, cops go after heavy drugs and even MJ is used with some confidence but no like Spain, in Spain they let you grow MJ for personal use :)), and going back to shrooms you can safely order dried ones to eat from the web (azarius or smarbotanics). It's all a question of politics, i think USA governament as to stop wasting tons of money on DEA's and alikes, it won't worth the time and resources they spend, they know it's impossible to stop something wich exists since the dawn of time, there allways be people selling, buying and consuming drugs, period. They know that, they know the effects and they know how some of this drugs help people see the true meaning of their own life, and the truth is that we are individuals, free ones, you don't want fucking DEA's, what you want is somebody with balls and a clear mind to teach people and teach them to have a strong personality and to believe in them, spend that money on educating people how to be responsible and you'll have a nation made of really free people, USA repression sucks big time, what's the right drug? Fats from McDonalds, tar from Marlboro and alcohol from Jack Daniels ?
I like them all!!!! Anyway i wouldn't trade any above for a good shroom and you all agree with me on that.


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Re: Cultivation , The Shroomery and the Law [Re: MAIA]
    #312194 - 05/08/01 11:40 AM (19 years, 9 months ago)

Hehe.. I think we were seperated at birth. ;)

Fats from McD.. There's the epidemic.



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InvisibleMcMan
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    #312204 - 05/08/01 11:49 AM (19 years, 9 months ago)



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Offlinegray1
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Re: Cultivation , The Shroomery and the Law [Re: McMan]
    #312224 - 05/08/01 12:15 PM (19 years, 9 months ago)

while i'm sure that this board is under constant surveillance, apparently, the authorities are not overly concerned with the home cultivation of mushrooms and even the spore suppliers, or at least have not taken any direct action that any of us have heard of. it is obvious that the spore suppliers must cultivate mushrooms in order to supply the quantity of spore prints that they do, and i presume that it would be simple to get a warrant to further investigate their legal legitimacy.
i imagine that while incriminating evidence from posts on bulletin boards such as this serve well as coroborating evidence in cases when something else (presumably some stupid action) has actually lead to the warrant/arrest, such information doesn't stand alone to be sufficient for further investigation.
nevertheless, it is best to avoid any grey legal areas.
don't admit that you cultivate mushrooms or participate in illegal actions and you won't incriminate yourself. either refer to a friend or refer to theoretical research, dreams, etc... include a standard disclaimer in your signature as many people do.
hopefully, if people who choose to cultivate mushrooms do so in a quiet and intelligent way so as not to attract undue attention, it will remain and area that isn't a regulatory priority.

oh yeah,
and inncoluate the world

my disclaimer: i didn't suggest that i am involved in cultivating mushrooms or participating in any illegal activity, therefore i don't need one. ha.

my 2nd discaimer, just in case: i don't cultivate msuhrooms or participate in any illegal activity, i just comment on those who appear to be doing so.

c12h16n24ohdmt

Edited by gray1 on 05/08/01 12:16 PM.



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    #312243 - 05/08/01 12:39 PM (19 years, 9 months ago)



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InvisibleMcMan
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    #312260 - 05/08/01 12:58 PM (19 years, 9 months ago)



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Re: Cultivation , The Shroomery and the Law [Re: McMan]
    #312418 - 05/08/01 05:29 PM (19 years, 9 months ago)

sorry, mcman, but you have to be the most uniformed unitelligent person who speaks up here.
your ability to grow shrooms isnt in question here. i have seen your products and some of your stuff, and i have read many of your posts. my old email was deleted, so i got a new name here.. i have been here for 3 years now.

what you are telling people is just moronic.
i know the destruction of the rainforest sucks ass, but what the fuck does that have to do with us? anyways, unless you want to pay 2 dollars for a hamburger or 30,000 for a ford escort, get used to the US sending work and supply chains overseas or even just to mexico. americans let this happen by bitching about prices constantly. we want more, bigger, more, bigger, more. stupid fucking braindead american public.
and another thing, i have been on overgrow since nearly its beginning. they have ads of people who send mj seeds to the US. this is illegal as fuck. way worse than spores. spores are per-state legal. seeds arent legal anywhere. but nobody has ever been busted because of this...

if you ever get busted, its because you are stupid. period.
what does ryche advertising in the cult thread have to do with anything anyone else cares about?



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    #312492 - 05/08/01 06:55 PM (19 years, 9 months ago)



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Re: Cultivation , The Shroomery and the Law [Re: McMan]
    #312607 - 05/08/01 08:56 PM (19 years, 9 months ago)

maybe theyll find a cure for dumb people in the rainforest..

point the finger blame the other
watch the temple topple over
bring the pieces back together..rediscover communication


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Re: Cultivation , The Shroomery and the Law [Re: NuShroomPharmerII]
    #312615 - 05/08/01 09:13 PM (19 years, 9 months ago)

hey can you PM with the ways of your magical legalities



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Re: Cultivation , The Shroomery and the Law [Re: hunterthompson]
    #312623 - 05/08/01 09:31 PM (19 years, 9 months ago)

this is interesting stuff--i've been very curious about these affairs as of late.

as far as vendors are concerned, and legality, how does that work? in some sites the mushrooms are shown growing in obviously NOT natural surroundings. Seems pretty obvious to me--is this enough to warrant a search or an arrest?

And as far as "hobbyists" I would assume that the vast majority of "researchers" do not grow enough to actually supply a good number of people with mushrooms, and thus, do not warrent too much interest from the authorities.

What do you all think?

So glad we are discussing such things...

be smart, y'all....



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    #312702 - 05/08/01 11:09 PM (19 years, 9 months ago)



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    #312776 - 05/09/01 12:43 AM (19 years, 9 months ago)



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Re: Cultivation , The Shroomery and the Law [Re: NuShroomPharmerII]
    #312782 - 05/09/01 12:53 AM (19 years, 9 months ago)

once again everyone....WELCOME TO THE UNITED STATES OF THE COMMUNISTS REPUBLIC,



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Re: Cultivation , The Shroomery and the Law [Re: Taz]
    #312826 - 05/09/01 01:59 AM (19 years, 9 months ago)

Speaking of Ryche has anyone heard from him recently? Hmm..given the recent posts I think the paranoia has spread to me, but it just seems odd.

* The above post is not meant to be the thoughts and/or opinions of the author. I am relaying information for an acquintance and only write in first-person to simplify the process


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Re: Cultivation , The Shroomery and the Law [Re: NuShroomPharmerII]
    #312858 - 05/09/01 02:46 AM (19 years, 9 months ago)

nushroomphlamer:
first of all, i have a randomly generated password and dont give a shit what name i use. after my computer was replaced, i stopped visiting shroomery, and my email changed, sue me.. i dont think this violates anyones morals, so stick that one.

second, learn to spell, or graduate already. this isnt 3rd grade.

third, i hate lists with two things in them. but seriously, i dont give a crap about saving the rainforest (that one word, since you know so much about it) by "us" i meant shroom farmers in general. why does this apply to just shroom farmers? if it doesnt, IT DOESNT BELONG HERE! so shut up already. i think i speak for all 26 of the smart people (JK) when i say, you have spouted garbage for so long that you reek and you are infested.

i have never PMed you, so quit lying. all that does is make you look more stupid. (this must not apply to me, so if not, sorry)

i know how to grow legally. i also know how to use a spell checker, but i find my brain works better than yours, so i dont need it much. try a little formula420 in one ear, might take out the resin that has solidified in your head.

you say mcman is "the most informed and intelligent (person) on this BB." you never said why.

sure, ok, be smart, dont post your name, address, and what you grow. dont post pictures of anything obvious that could identify your house or grow area. the mods should delete all posts that contain pictures of a persons face without it being fuzzed. but, you admit i am right. he is over paranoid. so why am i such a liar if you say my truth is fact?

i think you need to rethink your whole life. you must be about 16, you think you are hot shit, you think you grow nice shrooms. that doesnt make you god, or a saint, or a priest, or a good person. you can grow nice shrooms, love the rainforest and still suck as a person.

btw, leave max out of this, now i know why all my friends left before! cant even stand on your own...
dont bother to reply unless you want to keep discussing this seriously. but so far, you havent made one argument. just spouting BS about things you dont know.



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Re: Cultivation , The Shroomery and the Law [Re: magnusra]
    #312887 - 05/09/01 04:17 AM (19 years, 9 months ago)

Yeah, where is that Hawk? I would very much like to hear from him about his peote experience, or at least know that all the people buying from him are nice and safe. I am a paranoid bitch, yes I know, but why hasn't he posted here for a while???

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Re: Cultivation , The Shroomery and the Law [Re: whyIdied]
    #312899 - 05/09/01 04:42 AM (19 years, 9 months ago)

Well.. Ryche posted that he had peyote and where he was going to be and when. Then he disappered. I'm not trying to start any rumors. Just pointing out some observations.

CORRECTION: Ryche had returned, I was just unaware of it. Sorry Ryche!

Edited by egghead on 05/09/01 10:47 AM.



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Re: Cultivation , The Shroomery and the Law [Re: dirtboy28]
    #312904 - 05/09/01 04:58 AM (19 years, 9 months ago)

As for rainforest goes, they are the natural habitat of some small friends you and i know and like to grow. Colombian strain, Equador, Amazonian ,etc ,etc ... You might have a neutral position about this issue, but you can't put it aside from the shroom world.

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