Home | Community | Message Board

Mushrooms.com
Please support our sponsors.


Welcome to the Shroomery Message Board! You are experiencing a small sample of what the site has to offer. Please login or register to post messages and view our exclusive members-only content. You'll gain access to additional forums, file attachments, board customizations, encrypted private messages, and much more!

Shop: Kraken Kratom Red Vein Kratom   Original Sensible Seeds Bulk Cannabis Seeds   PhytoExtractum Maeng Da Thai Kratom Leaf Powder   Left Coast Kratom Buy Kratom Extract, Kratom Powder For Sale   North Spore Bulk Substrate, Injection Grain Bag, North Spore Mushroom Grow Kits & Cultivation Supplies

Jump to first unread post Pages: 1 | 2 | 3 | 4 | 5 | 6 | 7 | 8 | Next >  [ show all ]
InvisibleMateja
 User Gallery
Registered: 07/14/16
Posts: 7,081
Water Tub Tek for fruiting BRF cakes * 13
    #26601054 - 04/14/20 06:54 PM (1 year, 7 months ago)

This is a simpler version of The Humidity Chamber but it's basically the exact same principle.

Rehydrate your newly birthed cakes in water for 24h, then give them a quick rinse and roll them in dry vermiculite or coir until they're fully coated.
This fruiting setup (the HC, or Water Tub, whatever you call it) can be made with any dimension unmodified tub or container as long as it's filled with an inch of water. Cakes must never be in contact with the water so place a cookie rack inside or some jars or lids or whatever works for you as long as the cakes have something to rest on elevated above the water level. Then place the lid back on upside down slightly rotated ajar to create small gaps/openings for FAE on top. A couple of square inches of openings on 2-3 corners is more than enough to promote continuous but slow evaporation. This is how I place the lid to create FAE openings:



After you place your cakes inside the setup go ahead and give them a generous mist from at least 3-4 feet away to generate that fine/light mist like conditions and always try to avoid squirting actual water on the cakes. Mushrooms dont need to be watered to grow only the substrate surface needs to be replenished with fine mist when you notice that the micro climate on the surface is vanishing or is no longer there. The preferred micro climate you're aiming for is having cakes that are at all times completely or mostly covered in these tiny droplets. Usually looks like this: (zoom in the pics to see the mentioned surface conditions)



Misting should be avoided as much as possible with this Tek unless the micro climate is visibly diminishing, meaning the micro droplets covering the cakes are beginning to evaporate off and disappear. Depending on the day to day humidity in your growing area and the size of the FAE openings on top you will either not need to mist very much if at all or at the most you'll need to mist gently every 24-48h. In time you'll learn to tune the FAE openings in such a way as to minimize the misting sessions while maintaining that preferred micro climate. Easy peasy :thumbup:


Here's are some humidity chambers I've made over the years, they have with varying appearance but they all work equally well when It comes to create and maintain something very close to the natural environment these tropical mushrooms are accustomed to:


Edited by Mateja (08/31/20 10:22 PM)


Extras: Filter Print Post Remind Me! Notify Moderator Top
Invisibleeatyualive
Eat's You Alive :)
 User Gallery


Registered: 08/17/01
Posts: 19,026
Loc: In Your Head
Trusted Cultivator
Re: Water Tub Tek for fruiting BRF cakes [Re: Mateja] * 1
    #26601111 - 04/14/20 07:17 PM (1 year, 7 months ago)

I been doing something similar with certain varieties of PE where I float the sub in standing water and refill to keep the depth 1 inch. These are extremely water craving varieties though.


--------------------
EAT GETS SHIT DONE


:flame::chief:JOIN THE POW WOW:chief::flame:


Edited by eatyualive (04/15/20 12:49 PM)


Extras: Filter Print Post Remind Me! Notify Moderator Top
OfflineMachiavelliavore
Vermiculite Hater
 User Gallery


Registered: 12/08/14
Posts: 3,038
Loc: The Sporetorn States
Last seen: 1 year, 4 months
Re: Water Tub Tek for fruiting BRF cakes [Re: eatyualive]
    #26601247 - 04/14/20 08:27 PM (1 year, 7 months ago)

Man, that's pretty fucking cool.  Often times PF cakes seem like they can barely get a few pins off an all there resources go into them, those pinsets look reaaaal nice.  Not quite fahster level, but reaaaal nice.


--------------------


I spawned some popcorn casings and had double-overlay cause I didn't put enough hydrogen peroxide in my automated aquarium mister.  I only got one mushroom so I cut off the head part where the seeds fall from and put it in a jar of LC and sprayed it all over a tin of PF cakes I made with gravel, cardboard, and bisquick in my microwave.  I think it will be good cause B+ is so potent.
Triggered yet?

Only a square would say "a cube is a cube."


No, this does not look right...


Extras: Filter Print Post Remind Me! Notify Moderator Top
InvisibleMateja
 User Gallery
Registered: 07/14/16
Posts: 7,081
Re: Water Tub Tek for fruiting BRF cakes [Re: Machiavelliavore]
    #26601486 - 04/14/20 09:53 PM (1 year, 7 months ago)

A cake can only support so many fruits to maturity, even fewer to 'full grown' and to maturity. But I guess as long as there's conditions for a healthy pinset and healthy development there are chances for half-full to full flush per cake and that's more than good enough results for me and my skill level :shrug: But some of the densest pinsets are Ime often the most unimpressive, I like 'normal' pinsets, not too dense.


--------------------
Water Tub


Extras: Filter Print Post Remind Me! Notify Moderator Top
OfflineJaboka
Kos... or some say Kosm?
 User Gallery


Registered: 10/28/14
Posts: 289
Loc: IC 1101
Last seen: 20 days, 10 hours
Re: Water Tub Tek for fruiting BRF cakes [Re: Mateja]
    #26602204 - 04/15/20 08:58 AM (1 year, 7 months ago)

great post!

This is my 1st time doing cakes actually. Before i did invitro and stones only.

COVID got me unprepared. So i do this water tub tek - no humidity meter nothing.

You say you give them spray once i day. I really don't know how much should i spray them, so i do a little in the morning and at night.

Its day 3 and no new pings have shown signs of life lol hope i didn't screw it up.


--------------------
Hunters with their dogs and deer rifles; thousands of them line the pavement; like patient pupae waiting to become worms.


Extras: Filter Print Post Remind Me! Notify Moderator Top
OfflineDomno
Magician
 User Gallery


Registered: 01/31/20
Posts: 199
Last seen: 1 day, 47 minutes
Re: Water Tub Tek for fruiting BRF cakes [Re: Jaboka]
    #26602229 - 04/15/20 09:16 AM (1 year, 7 months ago)

So between the humidity chamber tek and the water tub tek, which one seems to be giving better results?


Extras: Filter Print Post Remind Me! Notify Moderator Top
InvisibleHtaeh
Socially distanced, always
Male

Registered: 10/14/18
Posts: 319
Re: Water Tub Tek for fruiting BRF cakes [Re: Domno]
    #26602258 - 04/15/20 09:34 AM (1 year, 7 months ago)

Love the addition of the twigs, looks awesome. I've had huge success with PF tek in the past, one set of 20 cakes lasted me a year of consistent fruiting, only two were half pints. I found the fruiting process quite flexible, mist once a day and a fan once or twice, sometimes if I was unsure of the RH I'd hang some damp kitchen roll somewhere in there for good measure.


--------------------
"To write is to wage war" ~ Voltaire
"The Drug Medical System cannot bear examination. To explain it would be to destroy it.." ~ R.T. Trall M.D.
"A single lie destroys a whole reputation for integrity." ~ Baltasar Gracian (1601-1658), Spanish philosopher 
"We'll know our disinformation program is complete when everything the US public believes is false."  ~  William J. Casey, 1981
"Fear always works to influence the population, when the population is uneducated."
"The secret of freedom lies in educating people, the secret of tyranny is in keeping them ignorant." ~  Maximilien Robespierre
"Knowledge makes a man unfit to be a slave."  ~  Frederick Douglass


Extras: Filter Print Post Remind Me! Notify Moderator Top
OfflinecronicrMFacebook
 User Gallery


Registered: 08/07/11
Posts: 61,431
Loc: Van Isle Flag
Last seen: 1 month, 12 days
Trusted Cultivator
Re: Water Tub Tek for fruiting BRF cakes [Re: Htaeh] * 1
    #26602345 - 04/15/20 10:32 AM (1 year, 7 months ago)

the vegetation will mold


--------------------

It doesn't matter what i think of you...all that matters is clean spawn

I'm tired do me a favor


Extras: Filter Print Post Remind Me! Notify Moderator Top
OfflineJaboka
Kos... or some say Kosm?
 User Gallery


Registered: 10/28/14
Posts: 289
Loc: IC 1101
Last seen: 20 days, 10 hours
Re: Water Tub Tek for fruiting BRF cakes [Re: Domno]
    #26602363 - 04/15/20 10:41 AM (1 year, 7 months ago)

i think its best to invest on humidity meter.

never seen only water tub "FC". Mateah shows great results with it, so i'll trust him when he says its sufficient method.

If you are interested in in vitro, check this post by Violet - if you are trying to maintain low-key grow.
https://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/19552215

Good luck!


--------------------
Hunters with their dogs and deer rifles; thousands of them line the pavement; like patient pupae waiting to become worms.


Edited by Jaboka (04/15/20 10:49 AM)


Extras: Filter Print Post Remind Me! Notify Moderator Top
InvisibleMateja
 User Gallery
Registered: 07/14/16
Posts: 7,081
Re: Water Tub Tek for fruiting BRF cakes [Re: Jaboka]
    #26602484 - 04/15/20 11:33 AM (1 year, 7 months ago)

Quote:

Jaboka said:
You say you give them spray once i day. I really don't know how much should i spray them, so i do a little in the morning and at night.



Did you roll your cakes in verm? Could you post a pic of your setup and a close 6p of the cakes so I can see how the microclimate looks? I'll post a video later to show how I use the spray bottle and how much I mist.


Quote:

cronicr said:
the vegetation will mold



The Pachira 'Aquatica' thrives in very high humidity, and the cutlings seem to be doing well after I took em out last night when I flushed the cakes.
Tho the random sticks I put inside that I took from the outside bush started to get soggy and rot pretty fast so I won't be putting more of those in the tub. But I'm excited to see for the next round how the coming cutlings will do in the Water Tub when insode for more than a couple of weeks.


Quote:

Jaboka said:
i think its best to invest on humidity meter.



A hygrometer will tell you nothing, only visual inspection of the cakes can tell you how they're doing and if they need misting or not :thumbup:


--------------------
Water Tub


Extras: Filter Print Post Remind Me! Notify Moderator Top
Offlinepoisoned
untitled
I'm a teapot User Gallery


Registered: 04/17/13
Posts: 1,738
Loc: Yurop
Last seen: 1 year, 5 months
Re: Water Tub Tek for fruiting BRF cakes [Re: Jaboka]
    #26602599 - 04/15/20 12:29 PM (1 year, 7 months ago)

Quote:

Jaboka said:
i think its best to invest on humidity meter.




Those things are usually shit at humidities that are relevant to our hobby. They also don't measure close to the surface, so even if they weren't shit, they're irrelevant.


--------------------
How I do glass dishes


Extras: Filter Print Post Remind Me! Notify Moderator Top
OfflineJaboka
Kos... or some say Kosm?
 User Gallery


Registered: 10/28/14
Posts: 289
Loc: IC 1101
Last seen: 20 days, 10 hours
Re: Water Tub Tek for fruiting BRF cakes [Re: poisoned]
    #26602615 - 04/15/20 12:36 PM (1 year, 7 months ago)

hmmm it did the job for me when i started. More like a compass if things get too dry. But i see you guys' points.


--------------------
Hunters with their dogs and deer rifles; thousands of them line the pavement; like patient pupae waiting to become worms.


Extras: Filter Print Post Remind Me! Notify Moderator Top
Offlinepoisoned
untitled
I'm a teapot User Gallery


Registered: 04/17/13
Posts: 1,738
Loc: Yurop
Last seen: 1 year, 5 months
Re: Water Tub Tek for fruiting BRF cakes [Re: Jaboka]
    #26602634 - 04/15/20 12:44 PM (1 year, 7 months ago)

Btw, does your username have anything to do with apples?


--------------------
How I do glass dishes


Extras: Filter Print Post Remind Me! Notify Moderator Top
OfflineSockadin
Male User Gallery


Registered: 01/03/10
Posts: 7,086
Last seen: 4 days, 5 hours
Trusted Cultivator
Re: Water Tub Tek for fruiting BRF cakes [Re: Jaboka]
    #26602642 - 04/15/20 12:47 PM (1 year, 7 months ago)

Cool Tek Meteah. Can you post a sticky in the original op of that video you did. It way pretty nice to see it from all angles.


Extras: Filter Print Post Remind Me! Notify Moderator Top
OfflineJaboka
Kos... or some say Kosm?
 User Gallery


Registered: 10/28/14
Posts: 289
Loc: IC 1101
Last seen: 20 days, 10 hours
Re: Water Tub Tek for fruiting BRF cakes [Re: Mateja]
    #26602647 - 04/15/20 12:48 PM (1 year, 7 months ago)

Here is my "set up". Didn't even have a new container, so i used the one for inoculation, patched the wholes with some Gorilla duck tape lol

waiting on the "lmao"s, guys









--------------------
Hunters with their dogs and deer rifles; thousands of them line the pavement; like patient pupae waiting to become worms.


Extras: Filter Print Post Remind Me! Notify Moderator Top
OfflineJaboka
Kos... or some say Kosm?
 User Gallery


Registered: 10/28/14
Posts: 289
Loc: IC 1101
Last seen: 20 days, 10 hours
Re: Water Tub Tek for fruiting BRF cakes [Re: poisoned]
    #26602650 - 04/15/20 12:49 PM (1 year, 7 months ago)

No haha

Its a way to say "frog" in my language.


--------------------
Hunters with their dogs and deer rifles; thousands of them line the pavement; like patient pupae waiting to become worms.


Extras: Filter Print Post Remind Me! Notify Moderator Top
Offlinepoisoned
untitled
I'm a teapot User Gallery


Registered: 04/17/13
Posts: 1,738
Loc: Yurop
Last seen: 1 year, 5 months
Re: Water Tub Tek for fruiting BRF cakes [Re: Jaboka]
    #26602666 - 04/15/20 12:55 PM (1 year, 7 months ago)

That's funny, because it means apples in my language  :lol:


--------------------
How I do glass dishes


Extras: Filter Print Post Remind Me! Notify Moderator Top
InvisibleMateja
 User Gallery
Registered: 07/14/16
Posts: 7,081
Re: Water Tub Tek for fruiting BRF cakes [Re: poisoned]
    #26602830 - 04/15/20 02:08 PM (1 year, 7 months ago)

Mine too lol means apple

Quote:

Jaboka said:
You say you give them spray once i day. I really don't know how much should i spray them, so i do a little in the morning and at night.




My cakes are currently being dunked so I have no substrates to mist but I'll demonstrate my misting technique on these cutlings instead. I have no clue about the deign of every individuals spray bottle and I don't know what you mean by 'misting a little' 'misting a lot' all I can do is show how I do it, and what I look for in the visual inspection. I basically want miniature droplets to form on top of the substrates and the droplets should be visible for 12-24h and when they've visibly decreased I mist some more. Anyway this is how I'd mist my BRF cakes, but I'm misting plants :thumbup:




And this is how the micro climate looks on the substrate surface look most of the time during fruiting conditions.
Zoom in on the pics to see clearly


Edited by Mateja (04/15/20 02:11 PM)


Extras: Filter Print Post Remind Me! Notify Moderator Top
InvisibleMateja
 User Gallery
Registered: 07/14/16
Posts: 7,081
Re: Water Tub Tek for fruiting BRF cakes [Re: Jaboka]
    #26602855 - 04/15/20 02:22 PM (1 year, 7 months ago)

Quote:

Jaboka said:
Here is my "set up". Didn't even have a new container, so i used the one for inoculation, patched the wholes with some Gorilla duck tape lol

waiting on the "lmao"s, guys











You can trim down the foil to the edge of the cake, but what are those substrates? Looks more like a qt of grain spawn? I asked if you rolled in verm but you never answered (I'm assuming you're fruiting BRF cakes?

Quote:

Sockadin said:
Cool Tek Meteah. Can you post a sticky in the original op of that video you did. It way pretty nice to see it from all angles.



Thanks man, I'm glad you liked it :hatsoff:


--------------------
Water Tub


Edited by Mateja (04/15/20 02:32 PM)


Extras: Filter Print Post Remind Me! Notify Moderator Top
OfflineJaboka
Kos... or some say Kosm?
 User Gallery


Registered: 10/28/14
Posts: 289
Loc: IC 1101
Last seen: 20 days, 10 hours
Re: Water Tub Tek for fruiting BRF cakes [Re: Mateja]
    #26602925 - 04/15/20 02:50 PM (1 year, 7 months ago)

these  substrates are the verm layers of the BRF cakes (you know, people put it as a filter).

Didn't rolled in anything, yoloed them. No verm - nothing.


--------------------
Hunters with their dogs and deer rifles; thousands of them line the pavement; like patient pupae waiting to become worms.


Extras: Filter Print Post Remind Me! Notify Moderator Top
Jump to top Pages: 1 | 2 | 3 | 4 | 5 | 6 | 7 | 8 | Next >  [ show all ]

Shop: Kraken Kratom Red Vein Kratom   Original Sensible Seeds Bulk Cannabis Seeds   PhytoExtractum Maeng Da Thai Kratom Leaf Powder   Left Coast Kratom Buy Kratom Extract, Kratom Powder For Sale   North Spore Bulk Substrate, Injection Grain Bag, North Spore Mushroom Grow Kits & Cultivation Supplies


Similar ThreadsPosterViewsRepliesLast post
* eating the mycelium (Foolproof Tek w/ BRF)?????? matamore 3,935 8 10/04/18 06:10 PM
by bodhisatta
* Neglect Tek using Rye Cakes? Shroomasta 2,727 12 05/19/02 09:13 AM
by seattlekid
* Can I use brf cakes for wheat straw cmb911 2,468 4 02/24/02 04:15 AM
by Zebedee
* Can I grind up BRF cakes & mix w/ Compost skoal 3,755 3 06/25/20 07:11 PM
by Cegda
* SPAWNING POOP?! With BRF cakes indicaz 2,708 5 08/19/18 06:18 AM
by mushpunx
* Casing BRF cakes (pics)
( 1 2 all )
primal_future 18,170 21 04/03/17 09:06 PM
by mushboy
* Spawning sheep poop w/ brf cakes indicaz 3,513 9 10/04/09 11:18 PM
by bike__52
* multi BRF cake casing matamore 4,905 5 12/28/12 12:26 PM
by twistedty

Extra information
You cannot start new topics / You cannot reply to topics
HTML is disabled / BBCode is enabled
Moderator: Shroomism, george castanza, RogerRabbit, FooMan, mushboy, fahtster, LogicaL Chaos, 13shrooms, stonesun, wildernessjunkie, cronicr, Pastywhyte, bodhisatta, Tormato
7,569 topic views. 21 members, 126 guests and 39 web crawlers are browsing this forum.
[ Print Topic | ]
Search this thread:

Copyright 1997-2021 Mind Media. Some rights reserved.

Generated in 0.031 seconds spending 0.009 seconds on 15 queries.