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Re: A Challenge For The Cultivation Forum [Re: Alien]
    #795253 - 08/04/02 08:39 AM (19 years, 1 month ago)

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Re: A Challenge For The Cultivation Forum [Re: sirJ]
    #795255 - 08/04/02 08:40 AM (19 years, 1 month ago)

Probably. Sounds good anyway.

Blenderized straw might work, or maybe balsa wood.

Natural sponge, blenderized cigarette filters, dried leaves, tampons, cork, crushed gourd, goose down, cardboard...


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    #795350 - 08/04/02 09:40 AM (19 years, 1 month ago)



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Re: A Challenge For The Cultivation Forum [Re: Alien]
    #795418 - 08/04/02 10:40 AM (19 years, 1 month ago)

Blotter paper! heheh


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Re: A Challenge For The Cultivation Forum [Re: Alien]
    #795550 - 08/04/02 12:18 PM (19 years, 1 month ago)

why make cakes,they are small and low yielding, rye is cheap and easy to work with and for casing use potting soil that is eaven cheaper
and there is no place in the world where you cant find these items


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Re: A Challenge For The Cultivation Forum [Re: twisted]
    #795590 - 08/04/02 12:35 PM (19 years, 1 month ago)

i don't think rye is available EVERYWHERE

i came from a small town with no health food store or nuffin..
i doubt there was any rye around


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Re: A Challenge For The Cultivation Forum [Re: sirJ]
    #795849 - 08/04/02 03:14 PM (19 years, 1 month ago)

Well.. here is a suggestion (perhaps prohibitive due to cost - i don't know)

Use psyllium husk.

Ever put water in psyllium husk? that stuff holds a lot of water, and expands to a very large size. So maybe a kilo of psyllium husk might actually be equivalent cost wise in pricing when you take into account the fact it will expand. It obviously has a nutritious benefit of providing a huge source of pure fibre to the mycellium. Perhaps use perlite as a seal instead of dry vermiculite and there you go ! thats probably worth an experiment.



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Re: A Challenge For The Cultivation Forum [Re: Baby_Hitler]
    #796167 - 08/04/02 05:51 PM (19 years, 1 month ago)

I'm liking what Bhitler is sayin', I've been thinking about experimenting with some chopped and soaked balsa for a little while now, though question comparative costs. Rockwool might be an idea, though I'm currently in search of a plastic substitue. Something light and reasonably porous. Hopefully it exists, plus most plastics are available in pelletized form for injection molding.


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Re: A Challenge For The Cultivation Forum [Re: Alien]
    #800184 - 08/06/02 03:23 PM (19 years, 1 month ago)

Peanut shells...


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    #800191 - 08/06/02 03:28 PM (19 years, 1 month ago)



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Re: A Challenge For The Cultivation Forum [Re: Macey Howard]
    #800247 - 08/06/02 03:59 PM (19 years, 1 month ago)

In some ways Alien I think this would be better suited in the advanced cult. forum. You might get a few more constructive ideas.


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Re: A Challenge For The Cultivation Forum [Re: Alien]
    #800248 - 08/06/02 03:59 PM (19 years, 1 month ago)

Dude your going to think this is fucken nuts but if you want to replace the verm, us growers of other substances have been using rockwool because of the air to water raito. It is much better than verm for holding both. For cakes you could shred it, or buy it ground up already.
Ok people flame me up for this idea.



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Re: A Challenge For The Cultivation Forum [Re: Alien]
    #809678 - 08/10/02 08:40 PM (19 years, 1 month ago)

I have been growing for a few years and have never used vermiculite, what i do is mix a little sand with cow poo and oyster shells bang you have aration due to the sand water obsorbsion with the cow manuer and the oyster shells will buffer your soil. Go to any sea food diner and you can find shit loads of shells in the trash, dumpster diving sucks but it is for a good cause....


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Re: A Challenge For The Cultivation Forum [Re: Alien]
    #828056 - 08/19/02 01:06 PM (19 years, 1 month ago)

you have to go to a place that sells plants n shit a green house place... the place right own the street here has mid size bags for 5 bux and a huge ass bag for 10-12 ...If you go to www.dogpile.com and search for it you will find it cheap like 3 bux


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    #794421 - 08/19/02 03:49 PM (19 years, 1 month ago)



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Re: A Challenge For The Cultivation Forum [Re: vatoloco]
    #829383 - 08/20/02 03:20 AM (19 years, 1 month ago)

i think you guys are making this out to be a little harder than it should be.
i've got some orissas colonizing half coco/ half peat with a dash of lime to replace verm. i also did a jar with scotts compost cut with peat instead of verm.
all are moving faster than the standard recp.

indias are slow and i will try this some more with other strains , but just try anything. it'll probably work.


edit: i used coco/peat as replacement for vem in substrate. for the dry verm layer i used peat.


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Re: A Challenge For The Cultivation Forum [Re: vatoloco]
    #829813 - 08/20/02 09:17 AM (19 years, 1 month ago)

sawdust, kitty litter? ...it might work.
Anyway, a friend of mine just uses distilled water and long grain br. That works without verm.


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