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Avoiding the dreaded facepalm in cultivation * 33
    #22861379 - 02/03/16 10:55 PM (5 years, 9 months ago)

How to avoid facepalm and butthurt in the mushroom cultivation forum.

Okay all you new people this is one for you. The writeup on avoiding butthurt and facepalms in cultivation. I had contemplated writing this for a while but as it's a touch off topic and possibly a catalyst for further butthurt I held off. But the hurt in mush cult seems to be rising lately so I figure what the hell, this is needed. So here she goes :facepalm:

:smbfacepalm: 1.

First what we need to do is make what I think is the intention of most of the regular posters here clear. This is a place of learning and personally I think it's amazing how much good solid info, based in science is posted here daily. It's what sets us apart from YouTube and reddit. This means that to keep that level and quality of information presented up to that standard we need to ensure a certain consistency. This means bad info must be corrected and good info agreed with. As this is a fairly new discipline there are still things we don't understand and discussion and disagreements will happen. That is fine and healthy.

However if people come in spouting off outdated or simply incorrect information it will be crushed by those trying to preserve the integrity of the information of the board. This is not personal and should not be taken as such. If it is taken personally we then run into butthurt facepalm territory. The solution is simple, don't talk out of your ass and no one will facepalm you. Of course we all talk out of our asses on occasion and we all will be called on it. No reason to let it ruin your day.

:picdidnthappen: 2.

Because we are trying to establish a reasonable facsimile of scientifically backed understanding of the organisms we are attempting to cultivate some level of accountability needs to be had. Granted no one is expecting a link to a peer reviewed piece for every claim or commonly understood thing however, if you are going to say you grew cubes off of a wool sweater or that you had a cake pull 35 flushes because you dunked it in bleach, something must be provided to demonstrate that you are simply not some troll. Back up your statements wherever possible. If you are going to tell people that you have done something outlandish, then a photo is great. If you are going to try and tell people FAE is less important than 100% RH then a paper explaining why would be a good way to avoid stuff. But just coming into a thread claiming that you increased your potency by adding reeses pieces to the sub without something proving it is a guaranteed way to get laughed out of here.

:takingnotes: 3.

UTFSE. Use the fucking search engine before you post. This applies two ways. First is if you are having problems with really basic questions. Type your query into the engine and read through a few dozen posts that come up. Learn from those. You will appear smarter when you have a rudimentary understanding of whats going on. The Second way this applies is if you have some epiphany about growing on your dogs droppings or how people think your space age air pump in an aquarium with LED lighting and 3 hygrometers is going to do. Chances are its already been asked and facepalmed a dozen times a month. If you are certain you can pull a zip from dog doo or get a canopy in a PMP, then rather than ask and argue about it, go and do it. Then post the pics. People here respond better to doing than talking about doing.

:havesomescience: 4.

Learn the basics before you start to engineer shit on your own. Nothing elicits a facepalm faster than someone with 8 weeks reading and a handful of tubs under the belt coming up with a paradigm changing method that we are supposed to switch over to. Learn the basics to the scientific method, and test things in a controlled manner. If you are wanting to run experiments then the first thing you need is to get your ass some isolates or at least stabilized clones. Don't try to tell me about how your method outperforms all others without at least a few side by sides in a controlled manner. Also don't tell me about how you plan to do something stupid and then turn around and call it an experiment. If its ms, if its not controlled, or if the sample size is small then its not an experiment. While out of the box thinking is good sometimes and can deliver unexpected and game changing results, its unlikely that you will accidentaly discover something on purpose. Pouring spores over turds in a field isn't an experiment, its not even really an observation. When children make magic potions out of hose water and lawn clippings its cute. When adults do that its retarded.

:douchewink: 5.

Check the ego at the door. Most growers here have little ego regarding this stuff, they burnt it away with hero dosing. Well maybe not :lol: However, while you might be super proud of your latest tek/discovery you still need some humility. Also understand that curt responses are not meant to hurt your feelings and make you cry. Its usually just that we are on a phone and can't get the damn smiley to work right. Toughen up a bit as well. Shit, most people here are committing felonies. Crying and being sad won't help you in jail, why the fuck do you think its gonna earn you respect in here? Maybe if a bunch of people think your idea is stupid or won't work well, perhaps you should examine why that is. Too often people just get pissed off or whine to the mods. If you are that sure your way is the shit, then do it and prove the haters wrong. Just remember that you need pics, or it didn't happen :smirk:

:mindblown: 6.

Finally understand that much of whats posted is opinion. However its hard to have an objective opinion on something you have never done before. But opinion is still something we are all entitled to and sometimes we need to agree to disagree. I will argue that GLC is the most inferior method of liquid inoculate. Its my opinion and I am entitled to it. Funny thing is that I have actually had really good success with it, yet its still not my jam. Someone else may really like it and have their own reasons for liking it. Who is right? Well we both are. At the end of the day, fruits in hand is the goal.

Okay I am done here. But for all you new people (and some older ones) these are things that I think we need to keep in mind when posting here. If you don't think that these things are reasonable then this is for you.

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Re: Avoiding the dreaded facepalm in cultivation [Re: Pastywhyte] * 1
    #22861422 - 02/03/16 11:04 PM (5 years, 9 months ago)

Excellent post!


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Re: Avoiding the dreaded facepalm in cultivation [Re: Pastywhyte] * 3
    #22861425 - 02/03/16 11:04 PM (5 years, 9 months ago)

"Check the ego at the door. Most growers here have little ego regarding this stuff, they burnt it away with hero dosing. Well maybe not :lol: However, while you might be super proud of your latest tek/discovery you still need some humility. Also understand that curt responses are not meant to hurt your feelings and make you cry. Its usually just that we are on a phone and can't get the damn smiley to work right. Toughen up a bit as well. Shit, most people here are committing felonies. Crying and being sad won't help you in jail, why the fuck do you think its gonna earn you respect in here? Maybe if a bunch of people think your idea is stupid or won't work well, perhaps you should examine why that is. Too often people just get pissed off or whine to the mods. If you are that sure your way is the shit, then do it and prove the haters wrong. Just remember that you need pics, or it didn't happen :smirk:"

Is the realest Shit I have read all day.

LOL PASTYS KIDS MAKE GRASS MAGIC POTIONS! CUTE!!!!

I think I have gotten 6-9 face palms for various posts. When I get them many times I just let it roll off my back like a duck because I know in my heart the ideas were Straight DOPE! Then after closer examination on a few of them, I realized I was being a DOPE ohhhhhhhhhhh!!!

Ohhhh on my self Ojhhhhhhhhhhh!! OHhhhhhhhh!!!


Okay yeah I will stop cracking Ohhhhhs on myself... My first 290 or so posts I thought of some crazy thing, Then did a search and if it had not been asked about I posted a new thread. Then I started selling PF tek jars commercially, that is when I came up with some no downside cut corners.

Enough of this and constant thinking on a subject will make any determined person come up wit new and REAL ideas. at the age of 17 I had an article written about an insane thing I did titled "They said it couldn't be done."

Even though I have been face palmed I think it has made me a better cultivator. Also everyone seems to think I am an Odd mofo Dunno, I don't feel odd. I have gotten You`re weird or odd my whole life. Guess it might be true.



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Re: Avoiding the dreaded facepalm in cultivation [Re: Groo]
    #22861468 - 02/03/16 11:16 PM (5 years, 9 months ago)

I have nothing to add.



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    #22861489 - 02/03/16 11:23 PM (5 years, 9 months ago)

:asianofapproval::congrats:


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Re: Avoiding the dreaded facepalm in cultivation [Re: Pastywhyte] * 3
    #22861514 - 02/03/16 11:27 PM (5 years, 9 months ago)

Very nice write-up :thumbup: It should be linked in the welcome message of every new account.


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Re: Avoiding the dreaded facepalm in cultivation [Re: MajorDick]
    #22861516 - 02/03/16 11:28 PM (5 years, 9 months ago)

Didn't read, too long, post tits?


I inoculated my grain jars through the filter 6 minutes ago and I don't have any growth. Helpz?





Seriously though I wanna say there are no dumb questions...........



But there are.

Read, look at the pretty pictures, read a little more. Follow the tek exactly, 57% of us are assholes but the fun kind- consider it initiation and acceptance if we rag on you.


After you read and see the pretty pictures then come post your stupid question. We were all noobs at first and probably asked stupider questions than you have.


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Re: Avoiding the dreaded facepalm in cultivation [Re: Pastywhyte]
    #22861593 - 02/03/16 11:46 PM (5 years, 9 months ago)

Nothing short of Epic!

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Re: Avoiding the dreaded facepalm in cultivation [Re: LogicaL Chaos]
    #22861619 - 02/03/16 11:51 PM (5 years, 9 months ago)

Here Here!


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Re: Avoiding the dreaded facepalm in cultivation [Re: elasticaltiger] * 1
    #22861656 - 02/03/16 11:58 PM (5 years, 9 months ago)

Har har.
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Re: Avoiding the dreaded facepalm in cultivation [Re: Rocket] * 3
    #22861723 - 02/04/16 12:13 AM (5 years, 9 months ago)

:manofapproval:


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    #22861750 - 02/04/16 12:18 AM (5 years, 9 months ago)

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Re: Avoiding the dreaded facepalm in cultivation [Re: Psilosoulful]
    #22861779 - 02/04/16 12:23 AM (5 years, 9 months ago)

i will likely move this to getting started eventually.


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Re: Avoiding the dreaded facepalm in cultivation [Re: cronicr] * 1
    #22861790 - 02/04/16 12:25 AM (5 years, 9 months ago)

Damnit I knew I was the wrong forum :facepalm:


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Re: Avoiding the dreaded facepalm in cultivation [Re: cronicr]
    #22861808 - 02/04/16 12:28 AM (5 years, 9 months ago)

:facepalm:


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    #22861817 - 02/04/16 12:30 AM (5 years, 9 months ago)

Quote:

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Damnit I knew I was the wrong forum :facepalm:



i just think it would go good there along side the how to be awesome


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Re: Avoiding the dreaded facepalm in cultivation [Re: cronicr]
    #22861825 - 02/04/16 12:31 AM (5 years, 9 months ago)

This place is drab lately. The how to be awesome should be listed here. Please make a pop up box. Also I like turltes


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Re: Avoiding the dreaded facepalm in cultivation [Re: cronicr]
    #22861827 - 02/04/16 12:32 AM (5 years, 9 months ago)

Hey that's cool man :rockon:


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Re: Avoiding the dreaded facepalm in cultivation [Re: Pastywhyte]
    #22861834 - 02/04/16 12:33 AM (5 years, 9 months ago)

Yeah, I enjoy pop up boxes. Thanks for your enthusiasm pasty. You down with opp?


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Re: Avoiding the dreaded facepalm in cultivation [Re: maddchef]
    #22861847 - 02/04/16 12:34 AM (5 years, 9 months ago)

I'm trying yo

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