Home | Community | Message Board


Edabea
Please support our sponsors.

Mushrooms, Mycology and Psychedelics >> Mushroom Cultivation

Welcome to the Shroomery Message Board! You are experiencing a small sample of what the site has to offer. Please login or register to post messages and view our exclusive members-only content. You'll gain access to additional forums, file attachments, board customizations, encrypted private messages, and much more!

Jump to first unread post. Pages: < Back | 1 | 2 | 3 | 4 | 5  [ show all ]
Offlinetom
Pooh-Bah

Registered: 05/28/00
Posts: 821
Loc: Nope
Last seen: 18 years, 1 month
Re: Closet Cultivator... [Re: egghead]
    #310416 - 05/06/01 11:14 AM (19 years, 4 months ago)

No taz, I have a sock puppet. I am not one. I'll change it's title to sock puppet.

"Ha ha" -- Nelson

"Never trade or buy from DXMHEAD420... he ripped me off and was an ass about it too" -- Myself


--------------------
"It must be your stamps girl... cause it aint your face" -- Juvenile

"Only in America does someone order a cheese burger, large fries, and a diet Coke" -- ?

"DXMHEAD420 ripped me off and was an ass about it too" -- Myself


Post Extras: Print Post  Remind Me! Notify Moderator
Offline3DSHROOM
loon
Male

Registered: 04/20/99
Posts: 2,878
Last seen: 7 years, 7 months
Re: Closet Cultivator... [Re: tom]
    #310428 - 05/06/01 11:43 AM (19 years, 4 months ago)

"C'mon Thor, 'fess up. There's no way you can say for sure that no logging occurs. How can you make such a statement?"

What he mean is that any programs we run on this site, i.e. the BB, have been modified so that no IP logging occurs.

_______________________________________
Webmaster of the Shroomery
3dshroom@shroomery.org
http://www.shroomery.org


--------------------
Your friendly neighborhood loon


Post Extras: Print Post  Remind Me! Notify Moderator
Offlineegghead
veteran
Registered: 04/25/01
Posts: 1,054
Loc: Milky Way
Last seen: 18 years, 6 months
Re: Closet Cultivator... [Re: 3DSHROOM]
    #310449 - 05/06/01 12:16 PM (19 years, 4 months ago)

Tthe impression that I got from the statement is that folks can post here anonymously. And while it may be only the naive that would believe that, it still doesn't seem right to give that impression.

I would've been more accurate to say that no logging goes on that the Shroomery staff is aware of. Traffic can be easily logged/monitored from another machine on the same network or at any of the upstream providers. If folks don't want to have their traffic monitored, they'll have to disconnect their system from the net.

Given that, it seems a little silly not to take advantage of IP logging right on the server in order to clamp down on sock puppeteering.




--------------------
Where there's skill, there's a better way..


Post Extras: Print Post  Remind Me! Notify Moderator
OfflineDystopian Harbinger
Cheech Wizard

Registered: 02/26/01
Posts: 139
Last seen: 16 years, 3 months
Re: Closet Cultivator... [Re: egghead]
    #310454 - 05/06/01 12:31 PM (19 years, 4 months ago)

actually egghead if they "took advantage of IP logging" it would still not prevent sock puppets. AOL, the evil ISP used by 52% of internet users assigns a random IP every time you log into your account. In addition to that there are many anon servers on the web which can be used to mask the IP of the end user. IP logging would only serve to potentially jeapordize the current board member's privacy and only prevent the less determined of the trolls.

At times one remains faithful to a cause only because its opponents do not cease to be insipid.
-Nietzsche


--------------------
At times one remains faithful to a cause only because its opponents do not cease to be insipid.
-Nietzsche


Post Extras: Print Post  Remind Me! Notify Moderator
Offline3DSHROOM
loon
Male

Registered: 04/20/99
Posts: 2,878
Last seen: 7 years, 7 months
Re: Closet Cultivator... [Re: Dystopian Harbinger]
    #310459 - 05/06/01 12:45 PM (19 years, 4 months ago)

Exactly

_______________________________________
Webmaster of the Shroomery
3dshroom@shroomery.org
http://www.shroomery.org


--------------------
Your friendly neighborhood loon


Post Extras: Print Post  Remind Me! Notify Moderator
Offlineegghead
veteran
Registered: 04/25/01
Posts: 1,054
Loc: Milky Way
Last seen: 18 years, 6 months
Re: Closet Cultivator... [Re: Dystopian Harbinger]
    #310461 - 05/06/01 12:48 PM (19 years, 4 months ago)

Sound like you're challenging me...

Anyone that thinks they have privacy on the net is a fool.

So how would it jeopardize the users? Like you said, they can just use a proxy.

The more I think about it, all the "no ip logging" policy does is provide the admins w/ denialbility over sockpuppets. Why do the admins want sock puppets around?

I especially like the tinge of fear at the end of your graph. You should be in govt.

Edited by egghead on 05/06/01 01:07 PM.



--------------------
Where there's skill, there's a better way..


Post Extras: Print Post  Remind Me! Notify Moderator
Offline3DSHROOM
loon
Male

Registered: 04/20/99
Posts: 2,878
Last seen: 7 years, 7 months
Re: Closet Cultivator... [Re: egghead]
    #310478 - 05/06/01 01:09 PM (19 years, 4 months ago)

If we logged IP's it would help in no way to block suckpuppets.

_______________________________________
Webmaster of the Shroomery
3dshroom@shroomery.org
http://www.shroomery.org


--------------------
Your friendly neighborhood loon


Post Extras: Print Post  Remind Me! Notify Moderator
Offlineegghead
veteran
Registered: 04/25/01
Posts: 1,054
Loc: Milky Way
Last seen: 18 years, 6 months
Re: Closet Cultivator... [Re: 3DSHROOM]
    #310482 - 05/06/01 01:13 PM (19 years, 4 months ago)

Whatever man. If you're not willing to even try it, I guess it wouldn't help. How can you even say that w/ a straight cursor, though?



--------------------
Where there's skill, there's a better way..


Post Extras: Print Post  Remind Me! Notify Moderator
Offline3DSHROOM
loon
Male

Registered: 04/20/99
Posts: 2,878
Last seen: 7 years, 7 months
Re: Closet Cultivator... [Re: egghead]
    #310495 - 05/06/01 01:43 PM (19 years, 4 months ago)

If I block one IP then they reconnect or go through a proxy... If I block a whole section of ip's then I block potential viewers of this site that aren't the sockmasters.

_______________________________________
Webmaster of the Shroomery
3dshroom@shroomery.org
http://www.shroomery.org


--------------------
Your friendly neighborhood loon


Post Extras: Print Post  Remind Me! Notify Moderator
Offlineegghead
veteran
Registered: 04/25/01
Posts: 1,054
Loc: Milky Way
Last seen: 18 years, 6 months
Re: Closet Cultivator... [Re: 3DSHROOM]
    #310506 - 05/06/01 02:02 PM (19 years, 4 months ago)

If you are admitting defeat on it, can you at least give the users some tools to deal with it then? The board is just barely useable. It might look like a big community until you figure in multiple personalities and turnover.

An "ignore this user" feature would be most welcome, as it would not require any work of the admins, protects users' "privacy", deals with the noise/overload prob.

If you guys want donations, provide a community were folks feel like they belong.



--------------------
Where there's skill, there's a better way..


Post Extras: Print Post  Remind Me! Notify Moderator
InvisibleDirtmaster
addict
Registered: 11/21/00
Posts: 194
Re: Closet Cultivator... [Re: egghead]
    #310529 - 05/06/01 02:45 PM (19 years, 4 months ago)

yo egghead maybe you should consider the fact that 99% of the members here don't want IP logging...



Post Extras: Print Post  Remind Me! Notify Moderator
InvisibleMcMan
Pooh-Bah
Registered: 12/05/00
Posts: 661
Loc: USA
Post deleted by users_request [Re: egghead]
    #310535 - 05/06/01 02:53 PM (19 years, 4 months ago)



Post Extras: Print Post  Remind Me! Notify Moderator
InvisibleRussdogg
old hand

Registered: 05/19/00
Posts: 188
Re: Closet Cultivator... [Re: McMan]
    #310551 - 05/06/01 03:11 PM (19 years, 4 months ago)

3dshroom...How is it that you can ban someone from joining the shroomery? The only way I could think up was by IP.





Post Extras: Print Post  Remind Me! Notify Moderator
Offline3DSHROOM
loon
Male

Registered: 04/20/99
Posts: 2,878
Last seen: 7 years, 7 months
Re: Closet Cultivator... [Re: Russdogg]
    #310586 - 05/06/01 03:56 PM (19 years, 4 months ago)

There is no possible way to completely ban someone from the shroomery......

_______________________________________
Webmaster of the Shroomery
3dshroom@shroomery.org
http://www.shroomery.org


--------------------
Your friendly neighborhood loon


Post Extras: Print Post  Remind Me! Notify Moderator
Jump to top. Pages: < Back | 1 | 2 | 3 | 4 | 5  [ show all ]

Mushrooms, Mycology and Psychedelics >> Mushroom Cultivation

Similar ThreadsPosterViewsRepliesLast post
* Micron Magick Filter Discs rock.
( 1 2 all )
anonymoushate 4,912 24 06/03/02 11:50 AM
by Anno
* Mexican Tapalpa prints...not very good
( 1 2 all )
ralphster44 7,498 37 02/03/02 06:47 PM
by Zen Peddler
* spacing cakes in the hydra pod? cbull 1,711 15 06/07/02 04:03 PM
by Boppity604
* fish tank heater
( 1 2 all )
phrozendata 3,004 20 11/04/01 03:50 AM
by phrozendata
* My Friends Setup
( 1 2 all )
TeRzMaStA 2,934 30 12/05/01 06:50 PM
by TeRzMaStA
* Free source of Tyvek for filters bassplayer74 2,324 9 01/25/02 09:17 PM
by jag192
* 10PSI ?? MilhouseT1 832 4 02/24/02 02:36 PM
by MilhouseT1
* 4 Day jars
( 1 2 all )
goolag 4,179 23 05/30/02 01:53 PM
by luvdemshrooms

Extra information
You cannot start new topics / You cannot reply to topics
HTML is disabled / BBCode is enabled
Moderator: Shroomism, george castanza, RogerRabbit, FooMan, mushboy, fahtster, LogicaL Chaos, 13shrooms, stonesun, wildernessjunkie, cronicr, Pastywhyte, bodhisatta
19,745 topic views. 34 members, 182 guests and 16 web crawlers are browsing this forum.
[ Print Topic ]
Search this thread:
Avalon Magic Plants
Please support our sponsors.

Copyright 1997-2020 Mind Media. Some rights reserved.

Generated in 0.05 seconds spending 0.012 seconds on 16 queries.