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MushLuvR's Martha Madness Marathon * 5
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Alright everyone, I've been wanting to make a home here and an indoor GH, aka the Martha tent is my preferred way to grow, currently doing some test pans dialing in my environment, it's pretty much locked in already (fine tuning at this point), just want the surface a tad more moist, they were pretty dry (casing) at 94% humidity and a 10-point differential, so I went to 8, and it's better, but not quite where I prefer them so I went 7.5.  Yes, you can have almost 95% H and dry casings, and this is from a tiny 80mm fan that is attached to a tote and a 3-disc HoH fogger 24/7. 

Yes, you may be thinking to yourself, how is this possible, Air 24/7 and the controller kicks off the humidity and the fan keeps spinning.  The 80mm fan has a speed controller, and it's on the lowest setting (trickles the fog in, but still comes up fast). Early on, before anything was in the chamber, I had the fan on high, it was way too much, brought the humidity in fast, but once the fogger is off, it's a whirlwind in there and I have done this to pan trays in the past, it's too much for pinning... sparse fruiting... or NONE. 

The reason I really have the Martha is edible woodie blocks, that's my passion, I did over 250 blocks from 2019 or 20, to late 2023, no joke I went crazy with it.  All done in a 16qt Presto, 4 blocks, just under 5lbs each without spawn.  I have grown all kinds of mushrooms, Beech, a ton of shiitakes, and LM, Chestnuts, many varieties of oysters, ALL in the same environment to name a few (polypore fan originally, first edible/med block was Turkey Tail).  I don't have a FH, all open air... NO I'm kidding, had you going there for a second, but uh, blocks and all work done in a 90+ quart SAB.

Hindsight 20/20, I would have went 100 qt or so, but it works, and I get the job done all the same.  I prefer Unicorn bags and zips, but I've used, twist ties, duct tape, my wife's hair ties, you name it to close the bag.  Zip ties are the fastest, maybe one day I'll get a sealer, but not necessary to be successful. 

This is the intro, so here we... GROW!

Currently, I have two jars of Pink Oysters ready to rock and jiggle in the presto spawned to HWFP and bran, and... a freebie Branched Oyster that can take all sorts of temps, Pinks don't like cold.  I also have two Bolles pink Lions Mane jars doing well, they are slower but looking great.  I haven't grown this pink LM out yet, but I've grown Coralloides, LM, Bears Head, and even Conifer Coral that grows on cheaper pine pellets.  Yup, big fan of LM varieties, Bears Head brings out some wild faces in the fruits, I always geta kick out of how they are going to turn out. 

 

Pink Oysters are hands down one of my favorites to grow and eat.  The taste is wonderful, these and Kings, but it's too warm for KO right now.  I do have a ton of straw buying a bale for gardening, I may do a few straw bags, but I'm a fuel pellet grower through and through. 

Currently in the chamber, a 3rd flush from the 12qt Peace River tubs, and I pulled the 2nd flush last night of a 6qt and the other 6 qt probably later tonight or in the morning harvest going down.  The controller is set at 94, but it goes up to almost 95 when the fan has fully cleared out the fog after the controller turns off. Just playing with the system having a ball... yawl... take care and enjoy the process, it's therapeutic. 

   



Monster Cap!














Check that thickness of the stipes!  It's a T1 transfer to a jelly jar, not a clone or anything, I did 4 cultures, and this one made the cut. 

That's it for now, I'll get some pics up of the setup and then blow up this thread with some of my old edible block work, which is over at Topia, well most of it, but yeah, it's slow going over yonder!  :sporedrop:

Edited by MushLuvR77 (07/19/26 01:15 PM)

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Re: MushLuvR's Martha Madness Marathon [Re: MushLuvR77] * 3
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Alrightie folks, had to go pick up some rice bran (and free prints), can't believe I actually used all of the last bag.  So many projects tho', all in one cube ppe tubs, you name it, I was playing with bran.  All good, this bag will last longer, I was using too much in the beginning, it happens, you have to find your sweet spot playing and experimenting. 

The brains of the business...

 

Husky Tote, I believe 17gal, an 80mm waterproof fan with speed controller, and 4" ducting flange, and 4"dryer hose.  Inside the guts of the tote is a House of Hydro 3-disc fogger that can be used up to a 4x4, so it's very overpowered for this tiny tent, but I have run in the past bigger 5 tier taller setups, so it gives me flexibility.  I may end up building me a 2x6 tent from PVC, since I have extra piping already and connectors, would only need a few pieces to put it together.  In the meantime, this cheapo clearance MG tent (sitting in rafters waiting on me brand new) will get ER' done for a while. I will tell you; it was smaller than I was thinking, but for 25 bucks a few years back, and the old tent worn pretty good, I grabbed it, sucker for a sale.

Piping Fog shot


The rest of the tent, 2nd and 3rd flushes of the passive tubs I was running while waiting to setup the GH. 





My High tech grow light, many mushrooms grown with this 6500k bulb.  It's just an extension cord, plug in socket, and bulb (never mind the splitter, 2 bulbs unnecessary, but was used at one time).




Room Temperature


Cheap temp gauge that has surprisingly lasted a long time, it gives humidity too, but it's off, and Out is actually the inside temp.





All pics taken at the same time, Here is the actual humidity, cheap one is off quite a bit, but yeah, glorified inside temp sensor really. 

That's it, the controller is brand new, the old one before my walkabout was acting up, calibration issue, old AF, but I have it as a backup, I'll check it out when I have time.
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Oman, unrelated to GH growing, but thank you to @Phaethon, @Stagger, and @Imatryin for the letters.  Really excited to get zaps going, and semps I've been gawking at for some time, but WoW @Stagger, you went over the top with your package, you made me smile so big, and I've always wanted a rematch with Estero.  I had a print years ago (wild coast too), and it was just a PITA and a tough print to deal with in general, and it just never happened. The India Pan sounds interesting to, but TY for the Bisporus, been looking for this one for a long time.  I keep getting burned on Pan Cinctulus genetics to, but in due time, I'll get me some Cincts.  Been eying those blue pearls for GOD knows how long.  I appreciate all of you, zaps, semps, and PANS... OMy!!

Edited by MushLuvR77 (07/19/26 06:01 PM)

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Re: MushLuvR's Martha Madness Marathon [Re: MushLuvR77]
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Back to it, I meant to make up some woodie blocks last night for the Pink Oysters jars, but I had to debone a really big plant, and it couldn't wait until the morning, so that took precedence and was a bit of a chore late at night, wasn't happy about it, but INTO the jars (half gallon) she goes. 


I like her, but she does tend to pop some hermie pods, and my GDP is SUPER stable and I can keep them small, I defeloiated and trained this BIG fast grower to 32 nodes and still couldn't slow her down. Her name is Block Head Betty!



AND... there is your reason she's gone


In other news, the Pan 12qt gave up a nice 3rd flush, this is the one that took the blunt of the wetness, yup, slight case of trich happening in the corner, the benefit of no liners... too.  No worries, it was the best tub and was just spitting out love for me, it's outside in an old Mono with my cactus and baobabs, I misted them this morning with the water hose for shits and giggles. 
















Check out how dense the stipe is, short with a huge cap, pretty Wild!


This is my jam, dense at the bottom of the stipe like a clydesdale, big cap, BOOM!




Let them go too long and they look like this...





Another crazy one, dense stipe, rippled cap, I ain't mad atcha'




Peace River fruits can get BIG in a chamber, did well in a passive tub to, but it's no competition in that aspect


Group shot of most of the biggest fruits, random thought, the low spawn rate 12 qts did the best, the 1/3 ratio tub is horrific, but that culture isn't great either, double wammy!  Either way, I just wanted to play, before getting the tent back up and running... and a rematch with tubs was mandatory!



Photogenic for a 2010 POS digi camera, it does the job, but she's been through it... too.



Alright break time, I have 4 woodie blocks sterilizing as I type this, I love the smell of wood pellets and Bran in the morning!  I'll show you my process shortly... Anyway... Enjoy the Day :mushroom2:

Edited by MushLuvR77 (07/21/26 12:52 PM)

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Re: MushLuvR's Martha Madness Marathon [Re: MushLuvR77]
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:nice:    :popcorn:


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Re: MushLuvR's Martha Madness Marathon [Re: MushLuvR77]
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For you pans, what kinda sub are you using? Can you suggest an tek, I'm about to s2b some spawn.


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Edited by opamp (07/21/26 03:09 PM)

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Re: MushLuvR's Martha Madness Marathon [Re: Kloakk]
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Kloakk said:
:nice:    :popcorn:


I appreciate you droppin' in, could you pass the popcorn.  :laugh:



Alright folks, I have 4 woodie blocks sterilized for 2 hours, I used to run them for 2.5, but 2 hours works and I have multiple runs at 2 so no worries. I am at lower elevation, go 2.5 to be safe or higher up the mountain.

I killed the PC early on, it was leaking in the back, and I noticed putting the lid on that it was super easy to seal the Presto.  It should be tougher to seal the lid, it was too easy, and it was stuffed with 4 bags to the gills.  I had been talking about changing the gasket, well, I pulled the bobber (before it came up to 15psi) and changed out the pressure plug and gasket.  Solid snug fit now, and that old gasket put in work for me, so many HWFP block runs, workin' overtime!  Thank you, gasket and plug, now off to the recycle bin, my friend. 

I haven't pulled the bobber in some time, I had a bag get just a piece of it stuck in the groove of the lid, YEAH, gawd awful noise, and pulled the weight Real quick.  I have never popped a pressure plug, but I do keep it away from me for safety reasons and not blast me in the face if it goes, but I'm quick to pull a bobber if I know somethings not right.  Pro tip, KNOW THY Equipment! 

As I have stated previously, I was addicted to making blocks for about 4 years give or take, all wood lovers, I don't do manure for edible/med blocks, played with straw a little, but pellets, say no more, let's ROCK some Blocks!

My bagger tool, it's to keep the bag open to pour pellets and easier to pour water too.  Most of my work is with Pitt Boss pellets, but these were so cheap before I went walkabout, so... they were ready to go... and get to work for me.





My PC is only 16qts, so this recipe is for that reason.  If I had the taller 23 qt, I could do bigger bags, but I prefer to do 4 at a time (almost 5lbs without spawn), instead of 2.  That being said, I used to run blocks with more water, it worked, but slower colonization, and lose one here and there.  I have many cycles over and over with this moisture content, it's perfect. 

5 cups of HWFP
1/2 cup Rice Bran (1/4 for shiitakes)
1 liter of water, or 34oz, just over a quart. 



Pellets and water mixed together





Let them expand, it doesn't take long, even with cold water, makes no difference.  Then take a Dab of Bubble Rosin while you wait...



Now I put in the Bran once the pellets expand, give them a quick shake to mix, they will get shaken later (when cooled) with spawn as well. 



Unicorn 3T bag lookin' LuvLy




Dry flakes on the bag, but nothing sticking to bag with wetness, this is what you are looking for.



I put 8 rings, or two layers to raise the trivet for more water, overfilling the PC to high on the lower bags can result in taking in moisture, too soggy of a bag is NO Bueno!



Edited by MushLuvR77 (07/21/26 03:20 PM)

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Re: MushLuvR's Martha Madness Marathon [Re: opamp]
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opamp said:
For you pans, what kinda sub are you using? Can you suggest an tek, I'm about to s2b some spawn.


I am a manure grower through and through most of the time, but I ran out of manure, getting more soon, so I'm playing with CV+ as well.  I'm not a Tek sort of cultivator, I just mix manure, coco, and verm, that is my go-to most of the time and pasteurize for 90-120 minutes at 150-160 degrees.  My current subs are horse manure/coco/verm/oyster shell flour/compost, and WC.  I have worm bins for gardening and compost piles; that's me being a dirt maker playing in the mud.

CV+ is super simple, I have 10 trays almost finished colonizing, just weigh your brick, multiply by 5 and adjust Verm amount to the weight of Coco.  For instance, I just did (5 days ago) a 500g coco brick, 48oz of Verm, and 2500ml of water, comes out Perfecto!  Be careful adding a gallon of water to a 650 brick, they aren't all created equally, WEIGH them.

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Re: MushLuvR's Martha Madness Marathon [Re: MushLuvR77]
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Thanks for the reply. What makes it CV+ if your just using coco and verm?

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Re: MushLuvR's Martha Madness Marathon [Re: opamp]
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CV+ is with nutrients, a micro bottle, and low npk bottle, it's a fairly newer way of growing, but it can be done without pasteurizing if you get the right bottles and insoluble seems to be the way, or hot bath for 90-120 minutes... IT IS!

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Re: MushLuvR's Martha Madness Marathon [Re: MushLuvR77] * 2
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Hey fungus folks, back to work, went ahead and knocked up 4 woodie blocks with Pink Oyster WBS spawn.  I forgot how much work it is to mix the bags, got the blood flowing, I enjoyed it.  Smelling those blocks just brings me back to the beginning of my edible/med block journey.  You know, it's time to show and tell a bit more, I know I'm fairly new around here, but I'm a block making fool, same name over at Topia (without the 77), I don't BS about cultivation. 

In other news, I also knocked up 6 quarts of WBS... Pan Eungai, Pan Blue Springs, Cambo Komodo/BVI, yup going PAN crazy!  I also shot up some Mexicana, Natalensis (looks like the real NAT, I've already grown Ocra a few times, bags, tubs), and Ingeli.  I am really excited for all of them, especially the Ingeli, very intrigued with this one for some reason.  This will be my first Cambo if everything works out, really excited for possible Red Spore Caps.  I believe the Blue Springs and Eungai can give up Red Spores too. Time will tell, so I'm going to be running Exotics and Edibles mainly through the tent.  I can't grow some of them right now, it's just too hot, but I'll wait to run colder species when the time is right.  For now, Pink Oyster blocks in my future... OH YEAH!




























Edited by MushLuvR77 (07/22/26 12:03 PM)

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Re: MushLuvR's Martha Madness Marathon [Re: MushLuvR77]
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Nice to see all this great effort and I appreciate your attention to detail:fonz:


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Edited by fiddle_head (07/22/26 09:13 PM)

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Re: MushLuvR's Martha Madness Marathon [Re: fiddle_head]
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Was wondering if this would work


Anything else that might be needed? Got venting alr n a tent alr 🙏


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Re: MushLuvR's Martha Madness Marathon [Re: bloodssonnew]
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sorry, for a martha yes i think so
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what are you growing in a tent with that equipment? you dont need all that for cubes if yorue growing cubes, not necessary,.


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Edited by fiddle_head (07/22/26 10:10 PM)

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Re: MushLuvR's Martha Madness Marathon [Re: fiddle_head]
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i have little ultrasonic discs that just kind of float in the water and i just use a 5 gal witha  tiny fan exhaust ussually,.


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Re: MushLuvR's Martha Madness Marathon [Re: fiddle_head]
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fiddle_head said:
Nice to see all this great effort and I appreciate your attention to detail:fonz:


Great to see you around fiddle, I started growing around 2010 or 11 using Franks WBS write up at the time.  I lurked for years before creating an account over at Topia around 2019 maybe, but I've lurked here too the longest when I was just growing cubes.  What really got me back interested was Choempi on RIU, I was like... are you serious.

I go all the way back to 1995, I bought ones of those homestead book company kits (betting you remember), yeah, I blew it on the agar, and being so young at that time, no patience, it sat, then multiple moves, and poof... it's GONE! Yup, you could say I've always been interested in growing, and it took on a life of its own.  Memory Lane, must be the Mary Jane!

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Re: MushLuvR's Martha Madness Marathon [Re: fiddle_head]
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fiddle_head said:
sorry, for a martha yes i think so
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what are you growing in a tent with that equipment? you dont need all that for cubes if yorue growing cubes, not necessary,.


Oh for cubes, no, I'm a tub bag grower, mainly 12qts or 6's, but I don't grow too many cubes these days, unless it's from Faht which he doesn't breed anymore, but his Mak 118 gave up massive amounts of goods, I save cubes for friends for safe fruits that aren't tampered with, hard to trust these days and solid PE/TaT potency.

This tent is mainly for edible/med blocks, currently dialing in the environment with some passive Pan tubs I grew to prove it can be done without a tent. I had to soak the casing, and offset the lids, but it brought me back to learning what they need by keeping an eye on the fruits, Mush Luv for tubs, a way to get too many REAL quick.

I have 10 Peace River Trays I'm going to run, just meal prep style, and they are just about ready to case.  I'll run through those, then I have some Pink Oyster blocks coming up after that, and I'll get the Lions Mane spawned when it's ready.  Then, I have 3 different Pans coming up, some Mexicana, NAT, and Ingeli that I'm intrigued with.  I haven't even worked with the free prints yet, so I'm well stocked with fun guy stuff.  Once it goes to cold season, I'll get the King Trumpets going, shiitakes, etc...

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Re: MushLuvR's Martha Madness Marathon [Re: bloodssonnew]
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bloodssonnew said:
Was wondering if this would work


Anything else that might be needed? Got venting alr n a tent alr 🙏


It looks like that is just a temp gauge if you need to control the heat/cold but it isn't something I use.  I have a tiny probe that tells me what the temp is inside the tent, but that's it.  You can use a cycle timer, or a controller, either way, you have to dial it in for your specific environment. 

The humidifier you listed would work, but you will be filling that thing all the time.  I used to use a coolmist Vicks back in the day, holds just over a gallon and I piped it in with an old vacuum hose that would have went out to the street for pickup.  With that setup, I ran a small 120mm waterproof cpu fan, that lightly lowered the humidity, with a 1 min on 5 off setting. 

My current setup, it's active air 24/7, no exhaust needed, it doesn't have time to get stagnate with the trickle of constant intake from the 80mmm fan. 

My very first setup was old school, slices in the tent for air (40 dollar vicks US), keep clear packing tape around to adjust, and a cycle timer.  Be aware that a cycle timer can work, but during the night cycle, I would dial it down, easy to wake up to trays you will have to pour off.  There are many ways to make it work, it really boils down to, how much you want to spend.  I finally went with a 3 disc, I bought another Vicks and it was a dud, so I said I'm done with that being maxxed out and working hard with a bigger 5 tier tent, did fine with smaller ones. It's WAY overpowered for this baby tent, but I'm probably going to build a custom pvc pipe setup eventually, 2x6x7 or something, those dimensons work perfect for my mud room.  Alright, I could talk turkey all night, I love this GAME!

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Re: MushLuvR's Martha Madness Marathon [Re: fiddle_head]
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fiddle_head said:
sorry, for a martha yes i think so
[edited]

what are you growing in a tent with that equipment? you dont need all that for cubes if yorue growing cubes, not necessary,.


fiddle_head said:
i have little ultrasonic discs that just kind of float in the water and i just use a 5 gal witha  tiny fan exhaust ussually,.


I have a House of Hydro 3 disc with the float setup, yessir, a single disc can work and will work for most folks, ran a single disc US for years and very successful.

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Re: MushLuvR's Martha Madness Marathon [Re: MushLuvR77]
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I'ma be culting tamps caerulescens ttbvi Portland or pans n many many others 😶‍🌫️ I'm a tub grower too though I like to learn also. So for all it's worth let's convert a grow tent unused into a makeshift martha! xD

Who knows I might cult erething once 😍

So il prob run 80mm fan or 60mm (got both) n that humidifier in the pic just unsure what to use to tell humidifier to turn on every 45 min for 5 or 10 min or 15 min lol gotta dial it in myself though unsure what exactly I'm looking for to start and stop power to my humidifier on a timed basis looped preferably


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Re: MushLuvR's Martha Madness Marathon [Re: bloodssonnew]
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dude i been sleepin on this MusLuvR biz. Dude is a myco wiz wtf.
I feel so lame.  I got this badass spiderfarmer tent all setup and i've been so busy with work it just sits empty meanwhile this guy takes a home-depot martha and just YIELDS. 

I got a lot to learn here.  I feel unworthy of my tent!


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Re: MushLuvR's Martha Madness Marathon [Re: BeefExtreme] * 1
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BeefExtreme said:
dude i been sleepin on this MusLuvR biz. Dude is a myco wiz wtf.
I feel so lame.  I got this badass spiderfarmer tent all setup and i've been so busy with work it just sits empty meanwhile this guy takes a home-depot martha and just YIELDS. 

I got a lot to learn here.  I feel unworthy of my tent!


Thank you for the laugh this morning and I appreciate you dropping by.  The home-depot martha comment was hilarious.  I don't talk about myself much, I let the mushroom cultivation do the talking, but I did the same thing over at Topia years back and hit the ground running.  I'm sure people were like (at the time), who is this dude, and where did he come from. Yup, I just jump right on in the game and get busy... or jiggy with it.  Cube growers will always keep the boards active with momentum, but I grow mainly exotics and edible/med woodie blocks.  Shiitakes, Lions Mane, and Oysters... OMY!

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Re: MushLuvR's Martha Madness Marathon [Re: MushLuvR77]
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The spore load is heavy just remember it.


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Re: MushLuvR's Martha Madness Marathon [Re: vicepope]
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Tell me about it, watch out for Oysters and Reishi, they sporulate like crazy.

Another day in the life of a cultivator, I have 10 meal prep trays ready to case, finish up this Peace River Pan spawn.  I'm still dialing in the tent with the old 3rd and 4th flush tubs; I can't get a drop on the racks even bouncing the humidity from 95-93%.  The casing is moist (no tumbling pieces of casing tilting the tub), no beads, but I just bumped it up to 96 from 95. I'll give it until to tonight and check the tubs, the fruits liked the uptick I think, but they are fizzling a little, the bottom tub popped new pins so I'm assuming it liked the higher humidity and a little less air.  I'm just riding the tubs adjusting for the upcoming trays. 

Casing Recipe:  Ok it's not really a recipe, but it's what I have used over and over with no issues. 

1 quart of Peat
1 quart of Verm
1/4 cup (4 tablespoons) Oyster Shell Flour, or any Calcium Carbonate, Marble Dust etc...
1 pint of water, and a 1/8 of a cup to counter the OSF









I'm making 2 quarts, should be more than enough to case them






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Re: MushLuvR's Martha Madness Marathon [Re: MushLuvR77]
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So, you see the casing, it's tried and true (many cycles), well now we have to pasteurize, don't fret, it's really simple and I'll show you, for casing I do 60-90 minutes, and subs I like a little longer, 90-120.  I do pasteurize on the higher end from 150-160 it's my preference, but if it dips below 150, it's fine, just not under 140.  Follow along and find out, all in real time today.

 
Now you have your 2 quarts of casing at capacity and now they are ready for a hot water bath.  I have done this many times, so I don't check sub/casing temps anymore but for the sake of show and tell, I put a piece of foil over 1 of the quarts instead of the SFD lids I normally use.





Yes indeed, putting that PC back to work again.  Pic is with regular lids, but I switched one for foil. 



Now, you have your two quarts in the bath, it's time to bring the temp up to 170 degrees, the jars are around 85-90 degrees at this point, so going to 170 will cancel out when the jars start heating up. 




Now, put the lid on, unlocked, and no weight and turn off the burner and set a timer for 40 minutes.  The temp will rise to about 175 degrees give or take, no issue since we aren't in the 140 range yet... internally in the jars.

Come back 40 minutes later, turn on the heat (for about a minute or so, it's fast), to get the water back to 160, and check your internal temp.  I'll be honest and truthful here, I cheated, I already know my timeframes, so I went over just for the sake of showing and explaining the process. 

After 40 minutes, you are well into pasteurization mode, I normally set a timer for 35 minutes, but I went 40 for the sake of showing that I'm already at 150 degrees... well past 140.   



Now your water is back from turning on the heat for a minute to 160, turn off the burner, and it will usually rise to about 163F, jars are 150 at this time, set a timer for 45 minutes.  Now that you know your jars are in range, no need to check internal temperature anymore, now you just focus on the water temp. 

45 minutes later... halfway home, same thing, bump the heat for a minute or so and back to 160, turn off, set 45-minute timer.  That's it, 90 minutes done, you can do this one more time if you're not in a hurry (longer pasteurization), or just let them cool, you will get 20+ more minutes cooling the jars back below 140 anyway.

If you pull the jars right away, it takes about an hour and a half, to 2 hours to cool.  I like to let them sit there since I usually use them later that day, but 90 minutes is 90 minutes of above 140F, you can cool right away it's no problem, just leave the lids (or foil) on to naturally come down below 100F.  Warm is fine, any hotness is not what you want.  That's what I do, lather, rinse, AND repeat.

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I have heard that the sporeload of black oysters can be so detrimentally large that they require special venitilation and PPE to be grown and harvested in this way, in massive colobnies or large operations. Ive hear the sporulation is and can be heavy and aggressive


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Re: MushLuvR's Martha Madness Marathon [Re: fiddle_head]
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Yup, some oysters will blow up your chamber, spores all over everything, best to keep an eye on them and pick on the earlier side of harvest, rather than trying to squeeze every last drop out of the block.

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Re: MushLuvR's Martha Madness Marathon [Re: MushLuvR77]
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My reishi did that to me too.


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Cleaning the chamber, the inglorious part of cultivation, but it's a must.

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Re: MushLuvR's Martha Madness Marathon [Re: MushLuvR77]
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What's reishi spore print look like or spores look like? Got me curious lol dang it beef


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Re: MushLuvR's Martha Madness Marathon [Re: bloodssonnew]
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Oh, you can't miss those spores, reddish orange, brown, it can turn into a nightmare, harvest earlier without a doubt.  Reishi also grows great in the springtime outside; you can bury them in recycled soil and a little covering and like Turkey Tail, polypore's take time to develop.  I want to say if memory serves me, TT was a month or more... Reishi similar, not going to be like Oysters or shiitakes, which shiitake blocks take up time too (colonizing and browning), but fast fruiting once in the chamber.

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Re: MushLuvR's Martha Madness Marathon [Re: MushLuvR77]
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Thanks for posting Mush

so for humidity, you have a 80mm fan running 24/7 from that fog tote with the 3-disk fogger.  do you use a humidity sensor/control to turn something on/off to keep it at a certain RH?  I saw you said you turned it up from 95% to 96% earlier, what are you changing?  Some people say that they prefer to have everything on timer schedules, rather than relying on a sensor...

Also, how about venting in an exhaust for spore load?  My friend was talking about putting a carbon filter in there, but I imagine those would get clogged up, or maybe not even take the spore load.  we can't vent directly to the outdoors.

I'm also trying to set up a martha, so this helps, but i'm curious what you plan on for making your PVC-framed FC.  would you still use that 3-disk fogger?  get more disks?  I'm interested in something like that, i think.

And, about Lion's Mane...  how do the conditions those need compare to the conditions of Panaeolus cyanescens?  would you run them side-by-side with anything?  would it make more sense to have separate marthas with different conditions there?

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Re: MushLuvR's Martha Madness Marathon [Re: bloodssonnew]
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bloodssonnew said:
What's reishi spore print look like or spores look like? Got me curious lol dang it beef


Like someone took a pound of cinnamon and dumped it into a spinning fan.


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Generic said:
Thanks for posting Mush

so for humidity, you have a 80mm fan running 24/7 from that fog tote with the 3-disk fogger.  do you use a humidity sensor/control to turn something on/off to keep it at a certain RH?  I saw you said you turned it up from 95% to 96% earlier, what are you changing?  Some people say that they prefer to have everything on timer schedules, rather than relying on a sensor...

Also, how about venting in an exhaust for spore load?  My friend was talking about putting a carbon filter in there, but I imagine those would get clogged up, or maybe not even take the spore load.  we can't vent directly to the outdoors.

I'm also trying to set up a martha, so this helps, but i'm curious what you plan on for making your PVC-framed FC.  would you still use that 3-disk fogger?  get more disks?  I'm interested in something like that, i think.

And, about Lion's Mane...  how do the conditions those need compare to the conditions of Panaeolus cyanescens?  would you run them side-by-side with anything?  would it make more sense to have separate marthas with different conditions there?


I am currently bouncing the humidity from 97-95% with an inkbird controller, it drops all the way to about 92% before the controller catches up real time, and boom, back climbing the ladder again. 

Lion Mane, I have a pic around here them growing invitro, through filter patches, through the top of the bag, you can't stop them, they will fruit in the dark, but I prefer 95% or higher with many exchanges, and yes, once you figure out your system, most of the mushrooms will grow in the same environment.  That one pic I showed, had Pan trays, TT and LM in the same environment.  AT one time, I had so many blocks in the chamber at the same time, it was wild in there, but yes... all mushrooms love high humidity, and you add constant air trickling in, it's like a supercharger on a hot rod, more compressed air... run more fuel. 

One must think like a mushroom, not like a human.  In nature, mushrooms (in general) thrive from the evaporating water at surface level when it quits raining.  Being in the open-air outdoor environment, and massive evaporation happening (wind and temp drying the ground), this is what we are trying to recreate indoors.  For instance, i'm currently running 97%, which creeps up to about 97.3, and the casing doesn't have any beads, but moist.  There is finally a small trickle of water beads on the side of the tent near the piping (going from 96-97H), that is it, dry racks, tubs, and fruits.  Soggy subs, no good, dry like the Sahara desert, not conducive for pinning. You are trying to keep pins popping, and new fruits dry, dial it in and most importantly, keep track of surface conditions, and how do the fruits look, wet caps, dry cracks, slow growing, follow the mushroom through the cycle.

I know that AC infinity has scrubbers that work with tents, but I'm actively pushing air out of the bottom of the tent, and yes, no spore fest in the tent, pick earlier, it's not worth the risk and or mess to clean up. 


"Like someone took a pound of cinnamon and dumped it into a spinning fan." 

Great visual right there, absolutely perfect representation.  Made me laugh too, but definitely not funny if it happens to you.

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Re: MushLuvR's Martha Madness Marathon [Re: MushLuvR77]
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Yea great visual on the cinnamon hitting the fan lol 😂 in 2 weeks il start dialing in my grow tent :0

Whole new way to grow for me lol always done outdoor or tubs or top fruited xd 

Looking forward to trying metal trays 😍


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Re: MushLuvR's Martha Madness Marathon [Re: bloodssonnew]
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Man I can't wait to start growing again.


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Re: MushLuvR's Martha Madness Marathon [Re: fiddle_head]
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bloodssonnew said:
Yea great visual on the cinnamon hitting the fan lol 😂 in 2 weeks il start dialing in my grow tent :0

Whole new way to grow for me lol always done outdoor or tubs or top fruited xd 

Looking forward to trying metal trays 😍

Your 777 post is trippin' me out right now, I have hit 1000 quarters years ago many times (3 times in one day in Reno) on triple 7's, won 10000 quarters (2500 bucks) in Tahoe on Red White and Blue 7's playing an old 3 Stooges game.  Triple 7's, we have history, thank you for the memory trigger, if you need help with your tent, I'm here fungus friend. I almost turned my 2x4 tent into a mushroom growing machine, but unfamiliar territory and I would have had to buy more equipment, and I already had everything ready to go, new tent, new controller, changed out the 3 discs for new ones, it was more about cleaning everything and doing it right.  This tent I have now is the smallest one I have ran, but it's temporary, the previous Home Depot comment, not far off, it is a Miracle Grow Tent.  :laugh: 






fiddle_head said:
Man I can't wait to start growing again.


I know the feeling, can't wait to see you get back to it, so much has changed, yet some things stay the same... cultivation evolves, but it's all the same concept.  Tub growing will be around purely on simple and effective, I have grown cubes in a Martha, great pinsets, watch the moisture, but not really worth it since Tubs are the way for Cubes in my opinion. 









These were clones from Faht (uncased, light top layer only), all credit goes to him, the wheat seed man, but I don't grow too many cubes these days, unless it means something to me, and genetics from Faht, I'll definitely run a cycle or two.  All the best, and jump back on that saddle and RIDE... muscle memory like riding a bike... just peddle.

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Re: MushLuvR's Martha Madness Marathon [Re: MushLuvR77] * 1
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Alright folks, I cased up the 9 trays about a day and a half ago, I put the lids over the trays but unsnapped before going in the chamber.

The trays were misted really well a day and a half ago, check the corners, a little dry, this makes me happy since I'm misting them again before sending them to the tent anyway.  I don't like to mist while they are colonizing the casing, should be in spots, as seen below.
 
 





A couple of tubs still going in the bottom there, testing different levels of the chamber, I'll harvest the 6qt later tonight, 3rd flush or wave of Pans. 









In other news, blocks of Pink Oyster are catching fire a little, looking good so far.



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Re: MushLuvR's Martha Madness Marathon [Re: MushLuvR77]
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:rockon: tomorrow I get my humidifier n PC weight n buncha other stuff too :evil:

Gonna throw my enigma tub n caerulesen tub in the tint n set it up with a weekly timer for now and next month il get a Humidity controller and maby another tent or martha something like that n a ac n racks.

Thinking il do a ac in one to start azures n ps cyans cold drops n have it connected to the other one that il have the humidifier in it with a temp controller and heater outside the tent if needed 😎


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Re: MushLuvR's Martha Madness Marathon [Re: bloodssonnew]
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I can't wait to see your setup, always intrigued to see what others are doing to accomplish the same goal.  I have been through three configurations, part of the thrill for me, doing things a different way for the same end result.

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Re: MushLuvR's Martha Madness Marathon [Re: MushLuvR77]
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Got a lot of cleanup to do xd though here's some pics to show size kinda :smile: I should be able to fit a dozen or 5 trays in it possibly 😂 unsure exactly how many I can fit in it I need a get shelves n trays still

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:camping:

Excellent work Mush! Thanks for sharing :mushroom2::takingnotes:


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Re: MushLuvR's Martha Madness Marathon [Re: Agar Wedge]
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Thank you, Agar Wedge, the pink Lions Mane spawn is ready, SO wispy, it always looks like it's not colonized, until you really look.  Definitely one of the more wispier varieties I've had the pleasure with, mycelium wise anyway.  The Branched Oyster is begging me to spawn, nothing wispy about that one.

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Re: MushLuvR's Martha Madness Marathon [Re: MushLuvR77] * 1
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Hey now, had some other projects weighing on me that needed attention, but still rollin' 

Check out the Pink O blocks, the chamber is dialed in all the way now, 96% with a 4-point differential was keeping the casings from drying, but no beads, so I went to 97% with a 2 point Diff, and yeah, a little wetter than I would like in between cycles, current settings, 96.5H, and 5.5 point diff, initially I went with a 3 point and wasn't evaporating like I want so minor adjustments, but keep in mind this is just me being picky, but always, and I mean ALWAYS, watch your trays (or blocks), never mind what that read out says, it's just to help you find that sweet spot (and stop the humidified air from coming in your chamber). 









When you make blocks, it may seem like they aren't moist enough, check the beads in the bags (and fast colonization), it's absolutely perfect. 

The LM has been ready waiting on me, 4 more blocks in the works, I wanted to knock them days ago, but life happens and have to keep up with that project too.  :laugh:

The Branched Oyster is dying to be spawned too, I may just do two big bags since 3 (jars left) is an odd number, and I haven't made a 7-8lb bag since I first started making bags too big... for my 16 qt rig. 

In other news, I shook all 6 quarts yesterday at day 5, the Ingeli is pretty fast, but this Blue Springs is just annihilating seeds.  All jars look great, this isn't my work like the Peace River from spore to finish, these are from another source, I don't do too many LC's these days, but great work thus far, really excited for the Komodo/BVI cambo, fast too, the Eungai is the slowest, but catching fire fast.  The Mexicana is nice speed, above average, but not by much, the Natalensis isn't slow, but around average cube speed if I were to put a label on it.  This IS supposed to be the Real NAT not Ochra, they look right from what he showed me, but I just want to see if it produces sclerotia, been looking for a Pan Cinct culture for a while too, but in due time, plenty to play with right now. 

The pan trays have been in the chamber for 2 days, they are CV+ so slower, manure would have already been giving up the  goods, no worries, everything looking great, no soggy subs, and a little beading on the trays, that's what  I'm looking for. 

Pics right before shake up




I believe the one below is Blue Springs, fastest one right with Komodo





And the Mexicana



 



Eungai



And last but not least... NAT... Note to thyself, WIPE down the top of my
Fridge!  :eek:




 
Random cap shot, those jet black spores tho'  :yakko:

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Re: MushLuvR's Martha Madness Marathon [Re: MushLuvR77] * 1
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Woohoo, my first CV+ pins, even the outdoor tray (uncased and the cobweb couldn't take it outside) is pinning as well in a 66qt mono in 95-100F weather in the shade most of the day in my original Martha frame, the plastic was scrapped since first setup was slices in the tent, and trying all sorts of configurations, humidifier in the tent, top shelf, bottom shelf, mid shelf sucked the worse, until I decided to pipe in.  The top shelf inside wise, was the best, but I had an old vacuum hose laying around in the garage, and it was a perfect match for the Vicks Coolmist single disc. 









I guess I get my way... anyway, I wanted to try an uncased tray, initially small cobweb so outside it went to dry out quite a bit, bye bye mold, and then proceeded to mist the tray every morning, and sometimes at night, or not, depending on heat and looks of the surface, usually a light misting to make sure it makes the morning without drying out completely.  Solid drench in the morning to make it through the day, hot and low humidity this time of year, so moisture it is, and plenty of air.






I'll let the indoor trays pin a bit more, but all trays are on the same track, cased or NOT!  Should be interesting, right off the bat, outdoor pins are more on the yellow side, instead of orangish in the beginning.  Same with cubes I have seen in the past, lighter yellow caps and super dense fruits, I enjoy outside fruits just as much, maybe even more, since it's usually something that is dead to me anyway.  Never give up, never surrender, ok I'm sounding like an old Van Dam movie or something... Later Cultivators!

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Re: MushLuvR's Martha Madness Marathon [Re: MushLuvR77]
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Blocks are cooling off, the Bolles BH and Branched Oyster have been colonized for some time, it's like a storm went off in the oyster jar (normal).  I'll wait until the morning to spawn them, I doubt the 4 blocks will be ready tonight, pretty hot here today (bags are slow to cool down).  All the best... in your success!

Wispy BH... LM in general... always tough to spot growth, but it's there... somewhere. 

 

Between the flash and how white the jar is, it's blinding ME! :laugh:


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Re: MushLuvR's Martha Madness Marathon [Re: MushLuvR77]
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Welcome back to my Block Party!  The 4 blocks were taken care of a little while ago, got it done before it gets to hot and the A/C kicks on.  Rough this time of year working with cultures, definitely not used to this mid-Summer season, but we rollin' all the same. 

8 Blocks, I'll get the last two done soon, I'll max out the bag at around 7lbs, then all the older spawn is working for me and cleared up.  Branched Oyster is trying to grow out of the jar.  :laugh:



In other news, I have another round of 7 jars ready to Noc up later tonight with G2G or LC.  I like to save a few seeds, low on LC for the Bears Head, I'll save the rest of the LC and plenty for two more jars, that will probably be it for the Pink Bolles.  I'll be doing two more jars of Pink Oysters as well, 8 each, and go from there.  It will be a while until I can dip into the KO and Black Pearl King, (I might be able to squeeze a king/blue soon) colder environment needed, but warmer species will keep me busy all the same. 

All 6 of the quarts are doing excellent, really happy with the work I was provided (LC), been through the wringer years ago with contaminated cultures, it can be tiresome, but I prefer my own work... also very gratifying going from spore... to the goal line and for the win... SCORE!  Be well everyone!

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Hey Hey, Happy Friday!  I inoculated all 7 new jars of WBS this morning, 2 were G2G Bolles Bear H, two more Pink Oyster, I have just a little bit of Maitake left, see if it jumps off, and 1 each of NAT and Mexicana, possible stone jars while I'm playing with Pans, I'll throw in an Ingeli tray here and there, but  I really need to get this Agar done, it's been hot, and the timing hasn't been right lately.  It will be my first water agar run, used to making 10/10 plates 20 at a time.  I bought a case pre covid (I think 500), still have plenty of sleeves left, and I went plate crazy for a while too.  Plates can be addicting... nowadays, I'm just looking for a clean culture, a tool for the next step is all.  Different goals for like-minded cultivators.

Finally getting more than just one pin on the Pan trays (used to manure, so CV+ is different and new to me), a little drier than I would like (this morning) so the differential is 2.5... pretty tight from 96.5 setting, climbs to almost 97 percent when it clears the tote of fog.  I gave the trays a light misting to get them back in shape, mainly on the edges, but I'm not letting the humidity drop like I was either.  I am getting just a touch of moisture on one of the rails, nothing too wet, but just what I'm looking for.  I already know 97 with 2-point diff is too wet, so still tweaking it here and there. I'm really just getting it dialed in for new work; these trays are free rollers (last 2 jars). I have plenty of these.

Only a T1 grab this culture, so... no pressure or expectations at all.  Have a great weekend and... be well.

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Re: MushLuvR's Martha Madness Marathon [Re: MushLuvR77]
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Hey Hey, another hot day, I did get two bags prepped for the branched oyster blocks, they will be about 7lbs which is about the max for this size bag.  I am getting low on pellets, wasn't a brand-new bag, but 10 blocks (two almost double my normal block size) and I still have enough for maybe 2 or 3, but I'll get more pellets soon and kill off the old bag. 

I did shoot up the seven jars the other night, WoW, the Mexicana culture is fast to show growth, less than a day and looking great.  The two Nat and Mexi jars will be on hold while I'm running through a few Pantastic varieties, and I'll squeeze in the Pink Oyster blocks as well in between, or during, I have't decided yet, on the fly sort of deal.  I do have a rough outline and or plan, the Ingeli is almost as fast as the Blue Springs Pan, B Springs is ready right now, Ingeli, another day or so... ready to go.  The Komodo/BVI is right behind, and the Eungai is a wispy tough to see, but going well and not far behind either. 

The corners of 2 trays (of 9) just a touch drier than I like, so I went back to 97%, with the amount of air they get, and a 2.5 diff, 2 points a little wetter than I like, so I'll test.  I haven't ran the tent in these conditions with the newer setup, I do cold species mainly, but I want to grow them ALL.

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:popcorn:


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Re: MushLuvR's Martha Madness Marathon [Re: Kloakk]
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Kloakk said:
:popcorn:


My wife likes to put a little brewer's yeast on popcorn, it's good, but too much will give you a stomachache.  I'm more of a classic butter only on my kernels. 

Alrightie folks, made up the blocks yesterday, too much going on, so didn't geta chance to sterilize them yet, but I'll get it done tonight more than likely.  I'm pretty bummed, I'm going to lose a Bolles jar (G2G), due to being rushed during the process, and I should have waited, I don't normally lose G2G jars, so yeah, life getting in the way, my kids going through it, and I fumbled on the 1-yard line, no reason to lose G2G jars with a clean culture.  Ahwell, ONE up for the bacteria and mold growers, so irritating knowing, I told my wife (at the time), well if it goes bad, I know what happen, and two days later, looking like Cobweb, threadlike growth on one of the Bolles jars.  I'm just hoping that jar was the last jar since I did the two G2G last.

Live and Learn they say, don't rush the process, but be efficient... words of wisdom today... we always want to blame something or someone else, no can do, ALL ME!!

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Re: MushLuvR's Martha Madness Marathon [Re: MushLuvR77]
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Whaddup cultivator's, I did end up losing both of the G2G jars, with being interrupted, and then rushed, and didn't respray the SAB... there you have it, and it wasn't Cob, it grew out a little further and 100% identification... Rhizopus stolonifer... aka Pinhead mold, or bread mold.  I've seen this a few times over the years, mainly on plates, but it hits grain and subs too sometimes.  If I would have let the tammed Pan trays to grow out further (outside, it went away), guaranteed pinhead mold too, it's pretty common. It's like I say... cause and effect... at the end of the day... I should have waited, or spray again if it takes too long.  No worries, a few cents worth of seeds and time... I do this on the cheap.

In other news, I nocced up the two Branched Oyster Blocks this morning, man are they heavy, I'm used to about 5lbs or just under, these babies are some hefty sacks. Oh, all the LC jars are fine, just too long in the SAB, and should have started again from scratch.  In all honesty, I shouldn't have been doing that work at the time with my kid struggling and life kicking her in the ass, so FULL blame on me, this isn't a production environment, and my stubbornness and impatience IS the cause... sidetracked and disturbed, not the way to do work... in any form. 

The Ingeli and Blue Springs is ready to go; I'm hydrating a half of a brick of Coir as I type, my normal Manure/CV subs, unfortunately it looks like the Komodo/BVI is a staller, it was stalling out, so I shook it to see, and it's not looking good at this point.  If I don't see anything by tonight, it's a wrap on that one.  I have plenty of LC, but hopefully she isn't a Dud, but it was doing fine, until it wasn't.

The new Mexicana jar is SO fast, but the Nat, 2 Pink Oyster, and the Dancing Hens is showing growth too.  I want a rematch with Maitake, aka... hen of the woods... BAD!.  If timing is right, I could fruit it maybe in late January or Feb some time, we shall see. I only had a tiny squirt left, so it's a small spot of growth, but all good, future jar project situation. 


Alright folks, off to add the Verm, mix it up, and add my manure, and to the stove we go for pasteurization.  Take Care and Be Well.

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Alright, welcome back, 7 quarts of Manure/CV chillin' in the PC... pasteurization, DONE!

I will be spawning the Blue Springs Pan (tonight), and the Ps Ingeli, both are ridiculously fast colonizers, happens quick. I am finally caught up with all older spawn and projects, I can get to making some plates and get the Pan IND01, Estero, and the one I've been wanting to grow for some time, Pan Bisporus (although highly intrigued with the IND01).  That's the word, so you heard.


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Alright, Alright, Alright, in my best Wooderson voice, I did end up tossing the Komodo/BVI, definitely completely stalled, done deal, I'll shoot up another jar soon, no worries.

I spawned the Eungai this morning, finished off the 7 quarts of C/V/M... Blue Springs, Eungai, and the Ingeli are under way.  I am really excited for the Ingeli tub, and hopefully some red spores with the Blue Springs or Eungai.  Pans always excite me, different varities, but this Ingeli for some reason... HAS my attention.  I'll definitely hit another jar with LC of that one. 

I'm going to wait on the Zap and Semp prints, rough this time of year, Semps might be ok, but I doubt Zaps would like these rough summer conditions. 

I do want to get the INDO1 going and the Bisporus, since I'm going Pantastically crazy with them.  I do want a rematch with Estero too, but it will be hot here for at least another 2 months roughly, plenty of time to run through some Pan genetics, if I have to finish up with an aquarium heater in the bottom, I have before and it's a box waiting on me if needed.  I doubt I will have to, but options, or heat the mud room like I have in the past as well. 

Oh, I am seeing growth on the Pink BH blocks, and already growth on the branched oyster, no surprise there, oysters are fast colonizers and fruiters, great beginner or advanced cultivator mushroom to really push the air limits and grow some Monsters!

The Peace River trays are boring me, slow AF, not sure I'm onboard solely with CV+, and with the higher spawn rate, I went back to higher spawn rates with the newer work, spreading myself a little thin I think, so far, not exactly Pantastic with CV+ or lower spawn rates.  Ahwell, plenty of Peace River right now, tester trays really, all good, the fruits that are in there, are going to be big so the environment is nice, but still a bit dry this time of year even with humidifier. 

Oh, all LC jars are fine, Pinhead mold just grabbed the last 2 jars, the Mexicana culture is pretty fast for Mexi, jumps off to grain in under a day with nice growth.  I have two jars of Nat and Mexi, just sitting on those for now, I doubt Mexicana would like this environment being on the wetter side of the spectrum.  No worries, I'm looking for stones anyway (first), then fruit them afterwards. Enjoy the day... while we play!

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Re: MushLuvR's Martha Madness Marathon [Re: MushLuvR77]
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Hey folks, just an update here, I had to switch up my setup just a smidge, I've been running super high humidity, tight differential, and I'm not happy with what is going on in the tent.  Sparse fruiting, dry, yes DRY for hitting 97.5-98% humidity, even the slow constant 80mm fan is just killing the trays, so it kicks off when the fog does, and I opened up the bottom of the tent for passive air.  I'm going to run it this way for a stint and see, but I'm shredding water to keep up, which is fine, it's a huge tote and I can go a week without adding water, but fruits aren't developing like I want, I don't think I can solely blame CV+, not enough runs or experience with it, but my current trays are manure, it's what I know and used to.  CV+ might be just a little slow for my taste with Pans.  I do like how easy it is to do CV+, but they may be the extend of it at this point, nothing definitive yet. 


The NAT jar seems to be stalling a little, I hope not, but I shook it again to see, this time of year is ROUGH.  I don't know if I'll run the tent next Summer, maybe some Pink Oysters or something, but the struggle is real, and I have a 3-disc fogger.  I wiped the trays, hydrated them, and new settings, that's the cool thing, you can clean the slate, and go at it again with pans.  Big fat pins happening, but few and far between, too much air will cause this, I know this from previous attempts and data.  I'll get it where I want, but the 80mm constantly on, killing my surface, no bueno.  Take ER' easy!

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Re: MushLuvR's Martha Madness Marathon [Re: MushLuvR77]
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I too regret sleeping on this thread. this is great.


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Re: MushLuvR's Martha Madness Marathon [Re: Rasmodius] * 1
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Hey, thanks for stopping by, I try to keep things as real as possible, whether it's a slight failure, or complete success, we all fall down doing this long enough, but it gets easier to lose projects to the mold/bacterial gods, it stings less and less the more you do, and it's mainly for the thrill of the harvest.  I usually have plenty of fruits, so it's overkill most of the time.  I just wanna GROW... my sisters and Bro's.  :laugh:

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Re: MushLuvR's Martha Madness Marathon [Re: MushLuvR77] * 1
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Well, the camera died the other day, hopefully it's just the battery, but it's an old dinosaur so who knows.

I cased up the Blue Springs tray last night; it's sitting in a tub, and I'll throw it in the chamber in the morning.  I will also case up the Eungai, it's only slightly slower than the B Springs, but I finally got a white ice cream looking surface with Pans with the Blue Springs, the Eungai looks like the normal wispy growth I'm used to with Peace River.

The Ingeli tub is doing good, fast on grain, slower to bulk, but it's not a Pan so it's never going to compete that way.  I wouldn't say it's slow, about like a Cube maybe, today is 5 days complete, and I don't see any issues.

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Re: MushLuvR's Martha Madness Marathon [Re: MushLuvR77]
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Thanks MushLuvR! Good work!
I'm building my first martha next week. I'm glad for a recent writeup on the topic.


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Re: MushLuvR's Martha Madness Marathon [Re: Scemilope] * 1
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I'm going to be up front with you, once you go with a Tent, it's hard to go back, but I still do tubs here and there, keeps me grounded and makes me remember where I started on my journey with all sorts of mushrooms.  I enjoy the challenge of exotics, and edible woodie blocks are my main pleasure, and reasoning for a tent. I can grow most in a tub, but this 3-disc fogger, is just too much fun.  Rougher ambient conditions this time of year, but doable... no doubt.  Let me know if you need any help, or what sort of style of tent you are going with.  I have had numerous different configurations over the years; they all can be made to work; it's just how you go about it, and getting the feel for your new equipment is part of the learning curve.

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Re: MushLuvR's Martha Madness Marathon [Re: MushLuvR77]
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I have a big tent for medicinals but i still do my cubes in tubs.  I tried doing them open in the tent and i just couldnt dial the surface in. Couldnt get things to pin right.


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Re: MushLuvR's Martha Madness Marathon [Re: BeefExtreme] * 1
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Agreed, it can be done in a tent, and I have, but tubs are so consistent, 6, or 12qts. I do sixes lately and save a quart of C/V.  Photos below from 2021, these were grown with Shiitakes, Chestnuts, Kings, Oysters, Turkey Tail, Lions Mane, all at the same time, I went a bit wild in 2021. These are TAZ, and I did AA+ in the tent as well. 




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