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Re: Origin of life on this planet (God makes sense now lol...but...religon still don't) [Re: wolfiewolfie]
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That's just because you don't know me personally:lol:

I remember seeing a study a few years ago that showed high speed impacts can cause amino acids to start linking up as to form proteins.


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Re: Origin of life on this planet (God makes sense now lol...but...religon still don't) [Re: DividedQuantum]
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I guess the creator, created the genes to begin with.
Some guy named Tyson , is a leader in string theory. Him and I guess his team discovered that in , and I'm paraphrasing, he says he discovered a code that exist in everything, and this code is binary and it's a specific code that is actually used in our internet, it's an error correcting code that corrects the information that we send through the net, takes the info and it gets jumbled through the net and the error correcting code takes that jumble of info you sent and it corrects it so it knows what you were requesting. Now that's a explanation I have from memory of this years ago. But if there is a digital code, and all that exist as we know it has a code to it or binary sequences, than the creator can make any gene he wants..
So they created the DNA from possibly nothing, I wasn't there so not sure.lol

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Re: Origin of life on this planet (God makes sense now lol...but...religon still don't) [Re: abductee]
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Why assume there was a creator?

Life can come from non life on it's own.


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Re: Origin of life on this planet (God makes sense now lol...but...religon still don't) [Re: PussyFart]
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PussyFart said:
Why assume there was a creator?

Life can come from non life on it's own.


Unfortunately people need something to cling on to and "live for". If they don't know the answer to something, in comes god lol because what else really makes sense? must have been magic. and it really helps peoples fear of dying...when you die good things happen...yay...?


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another, and to preserve, and cherish, the only home, we've ever known."

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Re: Origin of life on this planet (God makes sense now lol...but...religon still don't) [Re: PussyFart]
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I was reiterating a write up someone posted on the web about our history and alien visitations.

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Re: Origin of life on this planet (God makes sense now lol...but...religon still don't) [Re: abductee]
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God doesn't solve dieing  for me at least but a god like entity or being is the only rational way my mind can come up with what started these voids and particles


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Enlils true purpose is to get us off topic and to cast enough logical doubts so that outsiders viewing this would be more likely to side with his fake opinions rather than our or sometimes controlled opppsotions opinions.


You see if you are too skilled at not falling for their traps and stating logically sound debunks then other accounts who purposefully agree with 90% of the truth join in and get the entire topic off the main points.

It's their 1960s version of damage control and diversion but man it's painfully obvious in 2017

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Re: Origin of life on this planet (God makes sense now lol...but...religon still don't) [Re: Psychonott]
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Psychonott said:
a god like entity or being is the only rational way my mind can come up with what started these voids and particles


Which in itself is pretty irrational right? :lol:

But I am skeptical on the  "big bang theory". Excited for when we figure more out then just "uuhhh we think nothing exploded into everything".


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"The earth is a very small stage, in a vast cosmic arena.
Our posturing’s, our imagined self-importance, the delusion that
we have some privileged position in the universe, are challenged.
To me, it underscores our responsibility to deal more kindly with one
another, and to preserve, and cherish, the only home, we've ever known."

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Re: Origin of life on this planet (God makes sense now lol...but...religon still don't) [Re: wowimflabbergasted]
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I've always wondered why ppls appearance differ so much depending on their location on earth, even language is so different


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Re: Origin of life on this planet (God makes sense now lol...but...religon still don't) [Re: wowimflabbergasted]
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Here's a documentary called everything and nothing, there's a lot more to it than nothing.

http://topdocumentaryfilms.com/everything-and-nothing/

And why not be your own mortal god and control the adrenal medulla?


Perhaps we all as humans have a biologically unique set of third eyes


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Re: Origin of life on this planet (God makes sense now lol...but...religon still don't) [Re: sudly]
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It's alot to wrap your head around when you truly seek answers, for real...


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Re: Origin of life on this planet (God makes sense now lol...but...religon still don't) [Re: PinPornProducer]
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PinPornProducer said:
I've always wondered why ppls appearance differ so much depending on their location on earth, even language is so different


Evolution/adaptation...we are still changing believe it or not. People in the USA are taller than 50 or 100 years ago. Skin Color Adaptation


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Our posturing’s, our imagined self-importance, the delusion that
we have some privileged position in the universe, are challenged.
To me, it underscores our responsibility to deal more kindly with one
another, and to preserve, and cherish, the only home, we've ever known."

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Re: Origin of life on this planet (God makes sense now lol...but...religon still don't) [Re: wowimflabbergasted]
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There's more to it


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Re: Origin of life on this planet (God makes sense now lol...but...religon still don't) [Re: PinPornProducer]
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No not really. You didn't even have time to read that article lol.

Google almost any of your questions and there will be scientific answers/explanations.


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"The earth is a very small stage, in a vast cosmic arena.
Our posturing’s, our imagined self-importance, the delusion that
we have some privileged position in the universe, are challenged.
To me, it underscores our responsibility to deal more kindly with one
another, and to preserve, and cherish, the only home, we've ever known."

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Re: Origin of life on this planet (God makes sense now lol...but...religon still don't) [Re: wowimflabbergasted]
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And trust me I've watched every episode of Ancient Aliens and all that stuff. I want to agree with you and yes there are a lot of strange coincidences and I am a conspiracy nut but don't turn a blind eye to what we DO know!


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"The earth is a very small stage, in a vast cosmic arena.
Our posturing’s, our imagined self-importance, the delusion that
we have some privileged position in the universe, are challenged.
To me, it underscores our responsibility to deal more kindly with one
another, and to preserve, and cherish, the only home, we've ever known."

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Re: Origin of life on this planet (God makes sense now lol...but...religon still don't) [Re: wowimflabbergasted]
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the other contaminants that came in were other chemicals from blown up stars and busted up rock/space junk/denser chemicals/meteors/etc. the way i see it. life originated here. If it came from any other place it was not a physical one nor a 'spiritual' one but one of Mind. Why is it hard to believe that, on a material level, chemicals/atoms come together in the proper environment to create life(more complex chains of chemicals)? that literally is life...
everything moves towards one direction and that is generation and regeneration, which are two aspects of the same thing.

I dont think life had to come from some where else.
more complex structures of chemicals had to be birthed some where else and then arrive here for those complex structures(life on earth) to exist?

Did fire have to be taken from some other place to exist in the physical world before it existed? did we have to take fire from another place before we could make it happen?
because when a fire goes out, the concept of fire does not stop existing. so where does the concept of fire exist?
My point here is that fire didnt come from some other physical place before it came to earth, it just came from the concept created whenever the first fire ever happened.

Mind proceeds matter. I think everything we are experiencing is so far beyond in manifestation we could ever imagine.
You think a thought, it gives you a feeling, you take action on the feeling
Everything we are acting out has already been felt long ago, and all those feelings were thought of long before they were felt and manifested. our actions and reality is just the catching up.

Only I think we are capable of changing any of the reality at any moment through the will. when you think a thought your conception doesnt come out perfectly in your mind because you arent even able to conceive of the thing in its entirety... you can think of what your computer looks like. but you cannot conceive of all its parts that make it function and imagine those machinations to function in perfect reflection in your mind, as it would in reality.
In other words, you can think of a tiger, but you cannot accurately think of everything going on within the biological body that comprises the tiger.

So being unable to conceive things in their entirety we desire to manifest and express them. as you did with this post. not knowing how to fully grasp it you wanted to shout it out to try and get it to manifest more accurately.

So we build the homeless shelter because just thinking about it isnt enough, and at anytime we can change the outcome of its building. either while comprising it or after it is finished by redoing certain aspects like redoing the sink or the carpets or the table set up, etc etc
we can always change these things.





as above so below. this is accurate to how i conceive it. only the top and bottom are actually connected and also the same; bouncing back and forth at infinite speeds. Just experiencing the constant growing of the flower, the blossoming, the wilting, the dying, the seedling, the growing, and the rebirth again and again.


I just dont understand the fallacy of the religion is bullshit part like an edgy 12 year old. Any man claiming religion is bullshit has just not studied any amount of theology, philosophy or true history.
A man claiming literary wisdom they have not read and do not understand as bullshit is one of the most ignorant and ironic things i experience in my life. :shrug:

My suggestion though is stop speaking and start listening to the world within and without you. stop assuming and start asking. asking is the most important aspect of finding. stop thinking you know and understand you do not know and thats where to begin. You got dogma up and down left and right in this post and i dont think it will get you anywhere.
Study the work of other great men, knowledge comes from all places. religion is full of truth. its also full of dogma.
no more dangerous than the scientific institution or this website as 90% of users are fucking morons. everyone and everything is full of truths and illusions, lies and reflections.

peep into smoking mirror, muthafuckin aztec god Tezcatlipoca. If you want to understand religion study Astrotheology as paganism and most all religious organizations are based off it lol


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Re: Origin of life on this planet (God makes sense now lol...but...religon still don't) [Re: PinPornProducer]
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PinPornProducer said:
DividedQuantum said:
Isn't that just an infinite regress, though? If we assume life was seeded on Earth, then how did it begin on the planet from which the seed came? If you assume it's a general phenomenon, you have to go all the way back to the planet on which life arose, which then started seeding all the other planets. Why not just cut out the middle-man and concede that life on Earth could have begun... on Earth? It has to happen somewhere...


If what I'm saying is true then we will never have the answer to how life began looking anywhere near here. I mean ppl believe inorganic material turned into organic material, that's just lunacy :lol:

Or...Maybe I just eat waaay to many boomers :lol:



inorganic material IS organic material. you are made of oxygen, carbon, hydrogen, nitrogen, calcium, and phosphorus. all inorganic and inanimate chemicals. all life is made of these things. but given the proper structure and environment they function as life.

thats like saying wood cant be something crafted into a chair, its wood!
the chair is simply 6 pieces of stick + the concept of chair + the labor of its build

So how is it a chair if its just wood? how is it just organic if its inorganic? how is it life if its just chemicals?
Yin and Yang, homie.


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The bonds and ties of the life we know break easily. But through eternity one bond remains; the bond of fellowship.
The fellowship of atoms,
of star dust in its endless flight, of suns and worlds,  of gods and men.
The clasped hands of comradeship unite in a bond eternal; the fellowship of spirit.

:mushroom2:-  My High Quality Lo-Fi Beats  -:mushroom2:-  MushroomCultivation Compendium  -:mushroom2:- Doing Bulk w/ No PC -:mushroom2:

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Re: Origin of life on this planet (God makes sense now lol...but...religon still don't) [Re: Lobi]
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Through my experiences I personally lean towards the frequency and vibration construct of this reality. Also the illusory feeling of separation between Spirit, Mind and Body.

If you look at things from just a scientific viewpoint you can't answer mystery's that defy every method 'Science' has came up with, with more 'Scientific theories' which in turn are just meaningless terms or hypothesis' used to describe an experience or in other words awareness.

Every method they have still has that invisible box of limitation shrouded around it, which is why every theory has been nothing but theories with no proof haha.. Because they are looking for proof in the completely wrong spot.

Science is always looking for outside answers and logical reasoning's behind things. When they are missing half the story, as within so without.. If people constantly just look without themselves to find the answers, they are just stuck in a never ending cycle of just different theories and get caught up in terms and not what they represent.

Religion has become very twisted and is littered with misinformation that contradicts eachother in on way or the other. Although it can be decoded and can source out some valuable info.

What I believe through personal experience, is that back in the times of mythology and where religion held a lot of importance as a form of metaphysical science the collective consciousness was resonating on a much highervibration, as people as a whole weren't in such a state of fear, chaos and negativity through sub-conscious programming from the T.V, Schooling Curriculum's etc which are putting everyone in such a bad state of confusion causing them to vibrate on a lower and more dense vibration.

Back in the religious times when we weren't as 'evolved' as now in terms of our intelligence in the physical world. However our ancient ancestors were far more consciously evolved than now, already in those times they already understood just the simplicity of the day and night cycle. Obviously day is to be aware in the physical, night obviously where to become aware of their dreams and go within themselves and connect with that darkness which comes to the Light stimulating their Spirit, Mind and Body.

Something so simple if you just observe, yet society today still doesn't really give out this sort of information or condemns it in the 'Hippie' luny talk haha. When they are really confining themselves to a mental cage of 'If I cant See it, Touch it, Smell it or physically feel it It Can't exist'. 

Hence why not everyone sees dragons flying around, or Spirit and Animal guides. Not because they no longer are there, but it is because as a whole of connected consciousness, as ONE we aren't resonating on a high enough vibration for everyone to be able to be aware of these things. That doesn't mean it isn't real.. Which is why some people claim they do see Spirits, Ghosts, Auras and energies because through certain experiences they have had have made them aware of such things on a higher vibration giving them a level of visual awareness people dwelling in the 5 senses can't get their heads round.

Which is unfortunate because so many intelligent people get put into Psychewards because they see things or hear things, and since the right information isn't widely available the ones that do not really understand will obviously go along with everyone else that thinks they need 'Help' and that they are going mad.. Which can often make it worse for them and make them even more paranoid. People need to realise that the physical and non physical are the Yin/Yang of this reality, you cannot have a physical experience without having the opposite. Hence when you're in a dream or Lucid or Astral projecting it feels just as real, because the experience is equally as real. We are the observers of the experiences thus each one is just as real and as valuable as the other. Even if you do follow science, it is scientifically proven that our brains are more stimulated in our sleep regardless if consciously aware or not. Which kinda makes you more dead when you're awake than asleep lol -.-

So I personally think of it as a holographic system or (Matrix) for our Spiritual selves to learn lessons of Balance and reconnecting with eachother like a comm(UNITY) and learn how to detach from the Egos desires and fears and judgements and re-remember what we truly are. We need to help ourselves so we can help eachother mutually grow and benefit as ONE. Peace Within, brings peace Without.

Time is only relative to the Mind and body, hence why when you have ego death moments time doesn't seem to exist because its on a higher vibration that isn't subject to time like this 3D reality. Hence why I personally believe that our Spiritual selves(Highest form of awareness basically) uses this reality as a system to experience and learn certain things so it can keep constantly learning new things. Almost like a constant self learning computer, only it has the ability to actually have experiences and independent control which unlike AI is subject to a programming script and cannot deviate. Which is why society is so obsessed with T.V, Illusions, Fear and ingraining their 'Programs' into everyone. So they have that control over the knowledge we actually have access to.

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Re: Origin of life on this planet (God makes sense now lol...but...religon still don't) [Re: Riza]
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Dope first post, welcome to the shroomery. :rockon:


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The bonds and ties of the life we know break easily. But through eternity one bond remains; the bond of fellowship.
The fellowship of atoms,
of star dust in its endless flight, of suns and worlds,  of gods and men.
The clasped hands of comradeship unite in a bond eternal; the fellowship of spirit.

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Re: Origin of life on this planet (God makes sense now lol...but...religon still don't) [Re: Riza]
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how much science did you study in university to make such claims and display confidence in magical declarations of "what is above, so it is below"?

that magical declaration is a way of looking at aspects of fractal intervals, and sometimes it has been a policy for managing in life when you do not understand what is happening...

I admit that is the way things usually are, people really are loose among the forces of life and of their own momentum and it is a lot of chaos and confusion. "what is happening???"

magic is in everything we don't really understand, like how we move our fingers while typing. we think of a word and Presto! there it is typed.
magic!

but also some of us know (or remember) how we trained to touch type, and it is not a mystery. but it is still amazing.

you don't need more magical explanations - you do need more observation and direct experience. Also if you talk about what you don't know, admit it. and enjoy the amazing simple things that are real pervading all life and nothing to do with gods or aliens who may yet show up but have not so far.


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Re: Origin of life on this planet (God makes sense now lol...but...religon still don't) [Re: redgreenvines]
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redgreenvines said:
how much science did you study in university


You do not need to study at a university to notice the pattern contained within existence or come to knowledge.... :teareally:

"How much science did you study"

A lot actually, as the word science derives from the greek Scire, which means Know.
I study every day of my life. That and helping another is singularly my main goal of every day.

as earlier stated, none of actually have any idea about ultimates because they are ultimate and I have a mortal mind. I dont have the answers.
but trying to understand abstract concepts with science is just idiocy.
and trying to state you have the answers when you in fact dont, is just ignorance.

Magical, abstract and unknowable are not synonymous. I didnt say anything was magical nor did I say since we cannot know it, that it is magic or mystical.

But the universe is not entirely physical, explain waves vs matter.
yin and yang once again. positive and negative; gender, is encompassed in everything down to the electron and neutron. which is a reflection of polarity, a further reflection of above and below, to go back to what I stated earlier.

Asking to prove mysticism or spirituality is like asking someone to "prove it" when they say "I went to the beach and had a great time"
How do you prove that in measurable detail to another person that your experience was true and real besides your own recollection of it?

The world is not entirely measurable in the sense of masculine/psotive/physical/etc

Might as well stop talking in words, and using body language and tonality, and 1001001001100100101001100101001101001101010010100101010110100


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The bonds and ties of the life we know break easily. But through eternity one bond remains; the bond of fellowship.
The fellowship of atoms,
of star dust in its endless flight, of suns and worlds,  of gods and men.
The clasped hands of comradeship unite in a bond eternal; the fellowship of spirit.

:mushroom2:-  My High Quality Lo-Fi Beats  -:mushroom2:-  MushroomCultivation Compendium  -:mushroom2:- Doing Bulk w/ No PC -:mushroom2:

:chillpill:more about my music :chillpill:

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