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Re: Origin of life on this planet (God makes sense now lol...but...religon still don't) [Re: Boogieman47]
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Boogieman47 said:
See now that said the big bang was only 13.8 billion years but scientists say earth has been around trillion of years ...




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Boogieman47 said:Sometimes ill trip and think that if the world was filled with dinosaurs how come there is a limited amount of skeletons ?? Dont you think there should be thousands and thousands of fossils ? I know in a sense there is but why not more intact??


Museums have a lot of fossils, thousands and thousands of fossils...
There are also a lot of places that fossils can still be found.


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Some 250,000 valid fossil species have been described, but this is believed to be a small proportion of all species that have ever lived.



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Re: Origin of life on this planet (God makes sense now lol...but...religon still don't) [Re: wowimflabbergasted]
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wowimflabbergasted said:
"why are there still monkeys if we're from monkeys"?


The answer to this is simple, we didnt come from apes, us and apes share a common ancestor. I love telling people that lol.


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Re: Origin of life on this planet (God makes sense now lol...but...religon still don't) [Re: PinPornProducer]
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PinPornProducer said:
The fish part and the monkey part :lol:

Evolution shouldn't stop, there should always be progression :shrug:


There is, every living this is a transitional species.

There are parts on every living thing that if you think about it, are pretty useless.

Like humans for example. Why do males have nipples?


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Re: Origin of life on this planet (God makes sense now lol...but...religon still don't) [Re: PussyFart]
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Re: Origin of life on this planet (God makes sense now lol...but...religon still don't) [Re: liloldme]
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Re: Origin of life on this planet (God makes sense now lol...but...religon still don't) [Re: NDStepp84]
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NDStepp84 said:



Chihuahuas, great danes, and wolves shared a common ancestor. That is why there are still wolves.

Just like humans and chimpanzees shared a common ancestor.

If frech and spanish people both derived from latin, then why are they're still latin people?


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Re: Origin of life on this planet (God makes sense now lol...but...religon still don't) [Re: Boogieman47]
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PinPornProducer said:
So now "god" makes sense to me, not as in a 1 man god created life but we did come from somehwere else, a higher power if you will.


I'm not sure where you get the idea that there is some "higher power" from the idea that life started here by bacteria or some shit landing on the sterile and cooled earth, most likely ejected into space and hurled towards earth from some kind of distant collision where these things possibly originated and life could be now. Space dust is not a higher power. There are many different microscopic life forms that could survive trips through space. They are not higher powers, even if it is possible for different forms of life to evolve from them over billions of years.

Boogieman47 said:
See now that said the big bang was only 13.8 billion years but scientists say earth has been around trillion of years ...


:facepalm: Where the fuck are you getting this incredibly wrong information? Alex Jones? http://www.lmgtfy.com/?q=how+old+is+the+earth

Boogieman47 said:
That makes sense i mean kinda goes with darwins theory in a way except i highly doubt we came from a fish or animals if we came from a fish we could breath under water.... and from an animal that said animal would be no more


:smbfacepalm: Please do some more research and stop watching anti-science political horse shit. That shit is turning your brain into mush before our eyes. Just because part of our genetics are related to fish does not mean that we should be able to breath under water.

Boogieman47 said:
How come humans havent evolved ?? I mean there are plenty of "super humans" perse as like really intelligent or athletic... how come there hasnt been another chsnge in evolution for thousands of years not one simgle creature??


Dude, come on... Evolution is an extremely slow process that doesn't just happen in 100 or 1000 years. You and I will most likely never witness a physical evolutionary trait in another human being in our lifetime. Perhaps it's even possible that some birth defects that cause people to abort their pregnancies are evolutionary. But they are aborted so they never get a chance to continue the process. Who knows, Down Syndrome could be evolution trying to keep humans in check from getting too full of themselves with our evolved brains and destroying ourselves and the world. But we have evolved our technology to the point where we can identify Downs Syndrome and other defects early and those babies are getting aborted left and right now. So if that is one route evolution was going we are actually manipulating our own evolution somewhat. Kinda like how in nature defective creatures are often shunned by their normally born siblings and the parents(they get neglected and die early as a result), sometimes even just killed by them or the parents for being born unlike the rest.



PinPornProducer said:
And also if evolution were true, why did it stop? Why are there not anymore fish growing legs to walk on land?


Holy fuck!! Educate yourself, please!! Evolution continues to this day and will long after we are gone.


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Re: Origin of life on this planet (God makes sense now lol...but...religon still don't) [Re: Juiceh]
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:popcorn:


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Re: Origin of life on this planet (God makes sense now lol...but...religon still don't) [Re: PussyFart] * 1
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PussyFart said:
wowimflabbergasted said:
"why are there still monkeys if we're from monkeys"?


The answer to this is simple, we didnt come from apes, us and apes share a common ancestor. I love telling people that lol.


Lol I think it's chimps actually not apes.

Thanks Juiceh bring some reason into this conversation :lol: The anti-science bandwagon is scary. Only group who did it before was religion but now you have people who just refuse to believe things for no reason...or because it makes no sense to them. Well..that's why they are scientists and you're not.


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Re: Origin of life on this planet (God makes sense now lol...but...religon still don't) [Re: PinPornProducer]
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I respect getting stoned and having an epiphany but this one is wrong.
sure, the petrie dish was sterilized when the planet formed but there was no agar for foreign material to consume.

It took millions of years for organic molecules to randomly get complex enough to form working strands and membranes etc. Prior to that there was just inorganic crystals, fluids and gas with organic precursors embedded.

so still no need for god or religion unless you like getting religious on shrooms or some other sacred brain food.


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Re: Origin of life on this planet (God makes sense now lol...but...religon still don't) [Re: PussyFart]
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PussyFart said:
NDStepp84 said:



Chihuahuas, great danes, and wolves shared a common ancestor. That is why there are still wolves.

Just like humans and chimpanzees shared a common ancestor.

If frech and spanish people both derived from latin, then why are they're still latin people?


True, just because there are several dog breeds and thier ancestors sold out to humans dosen't mean the wolf still dosen't have a niche in the environment. 

Certain environmental influences can cause a mutation that arises to be beneficial, mutations are natures experiments. If it benefits the animal aiding in survival as an advantage this animal passes it on. In the case of dogs certain mutations were considered useful or cute to man, they ensured it was passed on by breeding.

In the case of homosapien sapiens our mutations mostly noted a more advanced brain allowed us to leave the environments of our ancestors and flourish in others, dosen't mean that the forest isn't still perfectly suited to monkeys.


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Edited by NDStepp84 (05/07/17 11:33 AM)

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Re: Origin of life on this planet (God makes sense now lol...but...religon still don't) [Re: NDStepp84]
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survivable mutations that do not prevent breeding
not just mutations, many of which are deadly or not able to extend into progeny.


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Re: Origin of life on this planet (God makes sense now lol...but...religon still don't) [Re: redgreenvines]
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Yep, some probably if not most of natures "experiments" fail, but eventually one happens that really gives the individual an advantage over their peers. One that comes to mind is the aye aye, a type of lemur that evolved a longer middle finger for pulling out grubs, that mutation allowed the aye aye's ancestor to get food others couldn't making it more likely to survive and stronger winning fights for females ect. 

Another example is the ancestors of all bears was a brown bear, in frozen climates the lighter colored bear would blend in better with the ice and snow, so comes the polar bear. It's white coat is camouflage helping it hunt seals, there are still brown bears in other climates even though the polar bear evolved from a brown bear, you could go on and on.


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Re: Origin of life on this planet (God makes sense now lol...but...religon still don't) [Re: wowimflabbergasted]
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wowimflabbergasted said:
PussyFart said:
wowimflabbergasted said:
"why are there still monkeys if we're from monkeys"?


The answer to this is simple, we didnt come from apes, us and apes share a common ancestor. I love telling people that lol.


Lol I think it's chimps actually not apes.

Thanks Juiceh bring some reason into this conversation :lol: The anti-science bandwagon is scary. Only group who did it before was religion but now you have people who just refuse to believe things for no reason...or because it makes no sense to them. Well..that's why they are scientists and you're not.


So... you guys are scientists? :shrug:


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Re: Origin of life on this planet (God makes sense now lol...but...religon still don't) [Re: PussyFart]
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PussyFart said:
PinPornProducer said:
The fish part and the monkey part :lol:

Evolution shouldn't stop, there should always be progression :shrug:


There is, every living this is a transitional species.

There are parts on every living thing that if you think about it, are pretty useless.

Like humans for example. Why do males have nipples?


So gay men can pierce them


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Re: Origin of life on this planet (God makes sense now lol...but...religon still don't) [Re: PinPornProducer]
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https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Panspermia this is wjere i just got the 13.8 billion but as a kid we were tought about dinosaurs being millions, billions, and trillions of years back science and scientits contradict themselves over and over....


One will say this the other that then 20 years both are wrong and the cycle continues i love how you guys thing you are extremly smart and try to prove other people wrong with no proof of nothing ....




I never said we didnt evolve from fish or animals only its highly doubtful .... and i dont watch any anti science nothin watching science itself will give you all kinds of misleading information...



Darwin himself said that he was wrong about evolution before he died look thar shit up so is he now antiscience??


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Re: Origin of life on this planet (God makes sense now lol...but...religon still don't) [Re: redgreenvines]
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redgreenvines said:
I respect getting stoned and having an epiphany but this one is wrong.
sure, the petrie dish was sterilized when the planet formed but there was no agar for foreign material to consume.

It took millions of years for organic molecules to randomly get complex enough to form working strands and membranes etc. Prior to that there was just inorganic crystals, fluids and gas with organic precursors embedded.

so still no need for god or religion unless you like getting religious on shrooms or some other sacred brain food.


So you're saying you believe that basically a molten ball of lava (sterilized) then cooled, molecules then just started becoming more and more complex then ultimately sprouting into every living thing on this planet without any outside influence? :ohyou:

Maybe you need to seek answers to the truth rather than just believing something just because someone else does


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Re: Origin of life on this planet (God makes sense now lol...but...religon still don't) [Re: PinPornProducer]
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PinPornProducer said:
wowimflabbergasted said:
PussyFart said:
wowimflabbergasted said:
"why are there still monkeys if we're from monkeys"?


The answer to this is simple, we didnt come from apes, us and apes share a common ancestor. I love telling people that lol.


Lol I think it's chimps actually not apes.

Thanks Juiceh bring some reason into this conversation :lol: The anti-science bandwagon is scary. Only group who did it before was religion but now you have people who just refuse to believe things for no reason...or because it makes no sense to them. Well..that's why they are scientists and you're not.


So... you guys are scientists? :shrug:


No, but facts are facts....

Destroy all the religious books and all the science books.....all of them, then fast forward 1000 years.

The science books will all have been rewritten, exactly as they were written before.

The religious books on the other hand will all be different. Facts are facts.

Evolution is a fact, things change over time. Stories of creation and religion are hypothesizes at best.


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Re: Origin of life on this planet (God makes sense now lol...but...religon still don't) [Re: PussyFart]
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How often do facts change man, from what I was taught about just space alone in school back in the 80s has changed drastically lol. You hear it all the time, it was previously believed this but we were wrong, it's now this. Tell me I'm wrong...


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Re: Origin of life on this planet (God makes sense now lol...but...religon still don't) [Re: Boogieman47]
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Boogieman47 said:
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Panspermia this is wjere i just got the 13.8 billion but as a kid we were tought about dinosaurs being millions, billions, and trillions of years back science and scientits contradict themselves over and over....


Thats because scientists keep getting new information.

We used to think pluto was a planet, based on what we considered a planet, because we could only see so far.

Technology got better and we realized that it in fact did not qualify to be a planet by our definition of  aplanet, so it was reclassified.

As new information arises, we change our outlook.

As the information changes, it gets more and more precise.


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