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OfflineLearyfan
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UFO evidence
    #3603427 - 01/09/05 02:38 PM (12 years, 1 month ago)

Swami, you've said many times that you don't believe in aliens. I'm curious, what goes through your head when you see websites with collections of evidence such as this.......

UFO intelligence summary
Collection of sightings from reputable people

Ancient UFO artwork
Paintings of UFOs from hundreds of years ago







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Re: UFO evidence [Re: Learyfan]
    #3604008 - 01/09/05 05:01 PM (12 years, 1 month ago)

I just hope that they care about us


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Re: UFO evidence [Re: Learyfan]
    #3604063 - 01/09/05 05:12 PM (12 years, 1 month ago)

I don't know what this Swami guy may think, but I tend to think of UFOs as exactly that: Unidentified Flying Objects. The fact that we cannot identify them does not make them extraterrestrial in origin.


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Re: UFO evidence [Re: Paou]
    #3604083 - 01/09/05 05:18 PM (12 years, 1 month ago)

I agree 100%, my bro and i saw one when we were younger out of my bedroom window, hovering over my primary school, then it shot off into the distance real fast, it was kinda cigar shaped and pulsating.

Now i think it might have been a trick of light, or a spirit of some sort.


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Re: UFO evidence [Re: Paou]
    #3604097 - 01/09/05 05:22 PM (12 years, 1 month ago)

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Paou said:
I don't know what this Swami guy may think, but I tend to think of UFOs as exactly that: Unidentified Flying Objects. The fact that we cannot identify them does not make them extraterrestrial in origin.




Did you look at the link about the paintings from hundreds of years ago? I have a feeling that the people who painted those weren't seeing secret government aircraft.





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Re: UFO evidence [Re: Learyfan]
    #3604123 - 01/09/05 05:32 PM (12 years, 1 month ago)

Flying saucers sightings are abundant and when one looks at the evidence obviously real.

Now, are you ready for this?

Flying saucers, are man made. They were designed over 2 centuries ago along with a lot of other amazing technology by a man named Nikola Tesla. The American government proceeded to steal his patents and cover up any historic record of his creations. Once the government started using these flying saucers and people started to see them and take pictures of them they put out a bunch of UFO space alien movies through hollywood to get everything thinking crazy UFO stories and whalla... a conspiracy... but that can't be true... it just can't be...


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Re: UFO evidence [Re: faslimy]
    #3604148 - 01/09/05 05:38 PM (12 years, 1 month ago)

And what about the sighting os beings themselfs?
They weren't made by Tesla.
They could perhapse be a hypnotically induced illusion made by this
government to hide experients that they are doing to their own people, but they sure can't be men in suits. But i find it less likely than real extraterrestrials


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Re: UFO evidence [Re: Learyfan]
    #3604153 - 01/09/05 05:40 PM (12 years, 1 month ago)

Excellent post Learyfan..cool job.. :thumbup: :alert:


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Re: UFO evidence [Re: Sinbad]
    #3604160 - 01/09/05 05:41 PM (12 years, 1 month ago)

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Now i think it might have been a trick of light, or a spirit of some sort.




hehe, that's how religions were formed


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Re: UFO evidence [Re: faslimy]
    #3604191 - 01/09/05 05:47 PM (12 years, 1 month ago)

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faslimy said:
Flying saucers sightings are abundant and when one looks at the evidence obviously real.

Now, are you ready for this?

Flying saucers, are man made. They were designed over 2 centuries ago along with a lot of other amazing technology by a man named Nikola Tesla. The American government proceeded to steal his patents and cover up any historic record of his creations. Once the government started using these flying saucers and people started to see them and take pictures of them they put out a bunch of UFO space alien movies through hollywood to get everything thinking crazy UFO stories and whalla... a conspiracy... but that can't be true... it just can't be...




Please take into account the real paintings from HUNDREDS of years ago depicting the EXACT same crafts that we see today. I provided the link.


Cosm:  :thumbup:




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Re: UFO evidence [Re: Learyfan]
    #3604209 - 01/09/05 05:50 PM (12 years, 1 month ago)

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Learyfan said:
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Paou said:
I don't know what this Swami guy may think, but I tend to think of UFOs as exactly that: Unidentified Flying Objects. The fact that we cannot identify them does not make them extraterrestrial in origin.




Did you look at the link about the paintings from hundreds of years ago? I have a feeling that the people who painted those weren't seeing secret government aircraft.







That same painting contains angels and the Virgin Mary. Do you think that painting was an eye-witness account? Besides, that little blotch there could be any number of things. Humans don't have a monopoly on flight(or falling, for that matter), and it could even be a mistake by the artist.


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Re: UFO evidence [Re: Paou]
    #3604239 - 01/09/05 05:56 PM (12 years, 1 month ago)

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Paou said:

That same painting contains angels and the Virgin Mary. Do you think that painting was an eye-witness account? Besides, that little blotch there could be any number of things. Humans don't have a monopoly on flight(or falling, for that matter), and it could even be a mistake by the artist.




One wonders where the inspiration for that ship came from. Here's the close up....






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Re: UFO evidence [Re: Learyfan]
    #3604263 - 01/09/05 06:01 PM (12 years, 1 month ago)

The people back then painted the way we see them today? That would make sense if someone came up with the idea and then people held that same idea.. that doesn't mean any of that shit is real.

Leary, why it it you only care what swami thinks? it's not like if you change his mind you've actually done anything; that would have to mean that he was lying about his posistion in the first place because I don't think swami will ever admit being wrong.


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Re: UFO evidence [Re: Learyfan]
    #3604281 - 01/09/05 06:03 PM (12 years, 1 month ago)

Well, considering that the painting is religious in nature, one could interpret it as something having to do with God. I'm not saying that that's what it is. I don't know for sure what it is, so I'm not going to pretend to know. You see, there's nothing wrong with not knowing. IMO, it's better to accept that you don't know rather than jumping to conclusions based on insufficient evidence.


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Re: UFO evidence [Re: Paou]
    #3604445 - 01/09/05 06:42 PM (12 years, 1 month ago)

Perhapse UFO's were connected with religion in medival culture for a long time.


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Re: UFO evidence [Re: skystone]
    #3604463 - 01/09/05 06:47 PM (12 years, 1 month ago)

I still maintain that flying saucers are man made and that tesla designed the ones we see today 100-200 years ago (i havn't read up this subject for a while) but flying saucers and technology have been around in civilisations far more advanced than us for 1000's of years.


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Re: UFO evidence [Re: faslimy]
    #3604488 - 01/09/05 06:52 PM (12 years, 1 month ago)

a UFO is exactly that unidentified. if it was knwo to be of teslas or anyones elses it would jsut be a FO.

i personally think its possible to have other beings on other planets. but really, what concrete evidence do i have that other planets eve exist? i do believe nasa and them that they do, so i wont go into that too much. i personally believe its just as plausible for an "alien" to exist as a "god" to exists. not that i thik they do or dont, i dont know so i cant say.

ill leave with a contact quote

"If there isnt anything out there: it would sure be a waste of space." or words to that effect.


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Re: UFO evidence [Re: skystone]
    #3604489 - 01/09/05 06:53 PM (12 years, 1 month ago)

why would you need evidence for and unexplainable flying object? when there is an acronym, UFO, and when you identified it its no longer an UFO? but an IFO :P sounds to me, you should be looking for evidence by finding an identified flying object? :P
don't know what I'm talking about here, so sue me :wink: he he (?)


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Re: UFO evidence [Re: Learyfan]
    #3604648 - 01/09/05 07:24 PM (12 years, 1 month ago)

If you take a look at the objects in each painting, you will notice they are vastly different from one another. How many different types of ships am I expected to believe exist?

The two religious themed paintings with "tractor beams" originating from the UFOs could be lines of site, and the UFO in the sky could represent Gods eye. In these two pictures, the UFO is ovoid... and is shaped very similar to a human eye. "The Baptism of Christ" "The Annunciation"

I see a picture of an event that never occured, with characters that couldn't possibly exist... yet I am supposed to take this same painting as evidence that UFO's exist? Say I were to paint a picture of what I thought an alien ship might look like. Is that evidence that these alien vessels exist? Not now, but in another 200 years we might view it as credible.

Give a person some paint, and he will use his imagination. Show another person that picture, and he or she will attempt to understand what and why they painted what they did. In this case, we have many religious paintings with bizzare representations. Now, take a person who believes in aliens and wants to find more reasons why he should keep believing. Becuase of that, I understand more readily why these paintings were sought out, contrued, and put into a format where only the webmaster's interpretations are provided.

Give me a database of old paintings and I'm sure I could find convincing evidence that 911 was predicted hundreds of years ago. There is, after all, more evidence to support that hobbits existed than do UFOs.


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Re: UFO evidence [Re: TheShroomHermit]
    #3604691 - 01/09/05 07:34 PM (12 years, 1 month ago)

Well, since there is only one model of human aircraft in existence, the same one that has been manufactured from WW1, I supose there is only one model of UFO...

(as we have stablished that sarcasm is not detectable in writting, I'll point it out that this is sarcasm...well obviously)


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