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Re: Best UFO Evidence [Re: Phluck]
    #4671797 - 09/17/05 12:12 AM (16 years, 4 months ago)

No you get over yourself mutherfuckers, im not here to cater to your god damn ego!

WTF is next?? your gonna chastise me for not naming the correct smurf??

how is it i gotta tiptoe trough the tulips for u assholes?
just who the hell do u think you are anyways?


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Re: Best UFO Evidence [Re: Vertigo6911]
    #4672295 - 09/17/05 02:03 AM (16 years, 4 months ago)

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No you get over yourself mutherfuckers, im not here to cater to your god damn ego!

WTF is next?? your gonna chastise me for not naming the correct smurf??

how is it i gotta tiptoe trough the tulips for u assholes?
just who the hell do u think you are anyways?



We are people who demand reason rather than non-sensical rhetoric.


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Re: Best UFO Evidence [Re: Swami]
    #4672544 - 09/17/05 02:53 AM (16 years, 4 months ago)

ok, its official.
u guys are either out to piss me off or severely retarded,
cause there is no way you wouldent get by now that i was just illustrating a point.

i made it perfectly clear that i did read it, that it was in a TV magazine, and that i made no assumptions on its accuracy.
i merely brought it up to make the point that 100% proof is a hard thing to come by.

how fucking hard is that to get?

i could explain it yet again, but as im getting tired of this bullshit
why dont u fucking awnser me some questions?

what is it exactly u are accusing me of?
and wtf makes u think u have the right to accuse me of anything?
and wtf is so god damn important that u feel the need to hijack the damn topic to bitch at me?

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We are people who demand reason rather than non-sensical rhetoric.



you demand? maybe if u didnt puke it out in the same god damn sentence i might consider taking you seriously...

wtf is wrong with you people?


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Re: Best UFO Evidence [Re: Vertigo6911]
    #4672591 - 09/17/05 03:09 AM (16 years, 4 months ago)

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wtf is wrong with you people?




We do drugs.


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Re: Best UFO Evidence [Re: Swami]
    #4673001 - 09/17/05 05:12 AM (16 years, 4 months ago)

ahh that kind of an excuse only holds up in court and... (lol)

seriously, i dont mean to diss anyone as such, im just getting very tired of all these unimportant bullshit discussions.

it was just getting interesting with the pyramids n all...


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Re: Best UFO Evidence [Re: Vertigo6911]
    #4673326 - 09/17/05 10:32 AM (16 years, 4 months ago)

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seriously, i dont mean to diss anyone as such




WTF do you call, calling someone a moron? The reason we "hijacked" this thread is because our beloved Mods are completely incapable of doing the job they volunteered for. :thumbdown: :frown:


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Re: Best UFO Evidence [Re: Vertigo6911]
    #4681969 - 09/19/05 03:02 PM (16 years, 4 months ago)

Its a method of argueing.

Pick on a minor technicality and it can make others re-asses your legitamacy.

I know where your coming from - but these people have made up their minds. That is why they allow the smallest technicalites to sustain their view rather than look at the big picture - the weight of evidence (eye witness) throughout time and culture. This is why it 'requires further study' and not the mockery of these people who wish to sustain their ego and mental security.

I agree big tme about the sugar coating of insults!


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Re: Best UFO Evidence [Re: Phluck]
    #4682001 - 09/19/05 03:11 PM (16 years, 4 months ago)

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It's only lowly peons who claim to have evidence, or claim to have seen something big.




:handth:        :whatever:

Yes and I am sure that children, who have drawn the same disc shaped, light covered craft are all lowly persons trying to get big.

Yep there you have it folks, 8 year olds are now trying to get attention by claiming they've seen UFO's.  Dam we should of known, clever little money grabbing bastards! :thumbdown:


So out of the millions of witnesses, Phluck believes that not one of them could possibly be telling an honest story?

To me, this is the big delusion.  Not the questioning of what these craft are.

In fact, wether or not they are real is not even worth debating any more.  Its what are they and why are they here, now.


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Re: Best UFO Evidence [Re: Swami]
    #4682043 - 09/19/05 03:20 PM (16 years, 4 months ago)

yeah, and i am just the opposite i guess.
i hate to sugercoat anything, u wont piss me off without knowing about it lol...

anyways lets start over:

i think the odds of getting concrete evidence that will have the effect that concrete evidence should is virtualy zip.
even if we do get a good video of a live alien people just wouldnt accept it as the truth.
in the best case scenario (in favor of aliens) there would be a
collective form of the usual phases people go trough after hearing traumatic news, starting with denial then anger etc etc.
i dont remember the rest but u get what i mean.


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Re: Best UFO Evidence [Re: Vertigo6911]
    #4682053 - 09/19/05 03:22 PM (16 years, 4 months ago)

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In fact, wether or not they are real is not even worth debating any more. Its what are they and why are they here, now.



here here!


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Re: Best UFO Evidence [Re: Vertigo6911]
    #4682237 - 09/19/05 03:57 PM (16 years, 4 months ago)

Yeah, the mexican military recorded discs on thermal imaging camera's.

The story was all over the Internet but I'm sure these guys will deny existance until they are presented a link (yet they won't look for it).

And after that they will come up with a good reason why they believe it to be lies (other than maintainng their ego - which is what they are really doing).


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Re: Best UFO Evidence [Re: Ego Death]
    #4682247 - 09/19/05 04:01 PM (16 years, 4 months ago)

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The story was all over the Internet but I'm sure these guys will deny existance until they are presented a link (yet they won't look for it).



I refuse to look for evidence that someone else claims, as the burden of proof is on the claimant. You claim there is evidence for something, show it to me. Don't waste my time by making me look all over the internet for evidence of something you claim to exist. That's your job. You make a claim, back it up.


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Re: Best UFO Evidence [Re: Silversoul]
    #4682296 - 09/19/05 04:12 PM (16 years, 4 months ago)

No, All I ever claim is stay open minded.

It is you who has requested the evidence so the burden is with yourself - should you choose to analyse unbiasedly.


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Re: Best UFO Evidence [Re: Silversoul]
    #4682308 - 09/19/05 04:17 PM (16 years, 4 months ago)

My attempts to show people reality have failed.

People believe what they want to believe and even worse, people do not want to change their current formulated beliefs - this is something you guys have taught me.

All I say is there are miilions of eye witness reports - this is a weight of evidence. This suggests something is happening and it should be analysed further - not stigmatised by a fearful society.


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Re: Best UFO Evidence [Re: Ego Death]
    #4682332 - 09/19/05 04:23 PM (16 years, 4 months ago)

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It is you who has requested the evidence so the burden is with yourself - should you choose to analyse unbiasedly.



Bullshit. You're the one who has claimed to have evidence, and I have merely requested to see it. The faulty logic through which you came to this conclusion tells me a great deal about how much credibility you have in analyzing this evidence. This is why I ask for sources, since I can look at the evidence you have seen and analyzing it logically, rather than trust the word of someone who makes such blatant logical fallacies as the one quoted above.


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Re: Best UFO Evidence [Re: Ego Death]
    #4682352 - 09/19/05 04:30 PM (16 years, 4 months ago)

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danoEoboy said:
My attempts to show people reality have failed.



What attempts? All you've done is spout bullshit about how close-minded we all are and how we need to look for evidence ourselves, rather than taking the logical step of showing us the evidence you have seen.

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People believe what they want to believe and even worse, people do not want to change their current formulated beliefs - this is something you guys have taught me.



Whatever you say, Mr. Potcallingthekettleblack.

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All I say is there are miilions of eye witness reports - this is a weight of evidence. This suggests something is happening and it should be analysed further - not stigmatised by a fearful society.



It has been analyzed by many experts. Most have been shown to be attributable to natural phenomena. Some have been shown to be frauds. An extremely tiny percentage remain unexplained. The logical step for these rare cases is to continue investigating them, and not to jump to any conclusions, such as extraterrestrial visitation.


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Re: Best UFO Evidence [Re: Silversoul]
    #4682419 - 09/19/05 04:45 PM (16 years, 4 months ago)

Fine choose ad hom and not to analyse unbiasedly - good bye.


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Re: Best UFO Evidence [Re: Silversoul]
    #4682431 - 09/19/05 04:47 PM (16 years, 4 months ago)

You can't see the evidence I have seen - I told you.

At least until they invent a memory transmitter - then I'd love to see you come up for an explaination for what I have seen.


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Re: Best UFO Evidence [Re: Silversoul]
    #4682451 - 09/19/05 04:51 PM (16 years, 4 months ago)

experts - yes experts have it all from reasons to invade Iraq and kill its people too why the Earth is flat and other predominant beliefs that can be shown, in time, to be wrong.


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Re: Best UFO Evidence [Re: Ego Death]
    #4693145 - 09/22/05 01:08 AM (16 years, 4 months ago)

What you actually experienced was a waking hollucination within the sober mind. It happens...


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