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Re: Why we mainly see UFOs and ghosts at night [Re: Swami]
    #2463295 - 03/23/04 09:32 AM (20 years, 3 months ago)

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Re: Why we mainly see UFOs and ghosts at night [Re: ]
    #2463317 - 03/23/04 09:42 AM (20 years, 3 months ago)

Swami, has the AZ UFO incident been PROVEN to be flares? Have you seen the videos? Have you concluded for yourself?

There really is no way to discern lies from truth, unless you have done it completely yourself, these days.


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Re: Why we mainly see UFOs and ghosts at night [Re: Swami]
    #2463537 - 03/23/04 11:15 AM (20 years, 3 months ago)

Quote:

Swami said:
Swami should make an anti-spiritual or philosophy show and call it the Swami Factor.

Calling flares an alien mother ship is spiritual?




If you don't think UFO's or aliens in general aren't related to spirituality or philosophy don't post it in this forum.

THINKING ALLOWED!  :smirk: please allow yourself next time

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Re: Why we mainly see UFOs and ghosts at night [Re: 2Experimental]
    #2463755 - 03/23/04 12:46 PM (20 years, 3 months ago)

>Spiritual meaning anything unprovable by scientific means, but explainable by 'chao' thoery
-The last time you used a theory to support an arguement it was how hearing the high pitched whine from the television set tied into string theory. If I could get an explaination on how chaos theory explains spiritual matters, like it does weather patterns, as well as a brief explaination on how it works... that would be super.

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Re: Why we mainly see UFOs and ghosts at night [Re: Swami]
    #2463975 - 03/23/04 02:04 PM (20 years, 3 months ago)

That you are an idiot... Sorry i had to put it that way but the title to this thread is.."Why we mainly see UFOs and ghosts at night ". Mattzdope asks you a ligitimate question, " UFO's have been spotted in the day and the night, along with ghosts. I have never heard of UFO's being more prevelant at night, is there any proof to back up that more people spot UFO's at night???" And you dont know what he is trying to say?????.........

Now you are either underestimating the overwhelming amount of evidance that something 'foreign' is out there. Or you work for the guys that come up with the "flares, planet venus, lighthouse and wether baloon' stories. Because no one can have their secure box of beliefs infiltrated with logic and facts so many times and still fail to answer simple questions with anything else then the stupidest fabrication ever thought of.

But just keep posting man, You are our own personal republican on this forum.


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Re: Why we mainly see UFOs and ghosts at night [Re: ]
    #2464029 - 03/23/04 02:25 PM (20 years, 3 months ago)

Not sure what you are taking exception to or if you are just repeating an old pattern.

ram?ble ( P ) Pronunciation Key (rmbl)
intr.v. ram?bled, ram?bling, ram?bles

To speak or write at length and with many digressions.


There was no insult. It was very hard to understand and it was a ramble. Perhaps you could translate for me so that I may better grasp the concepts.

If you think we are the only living breathing intelligent species in this whole UNIVERSE, I would have to say in my opinion you are terribly wrong.
This is a non sequitir and was never mentioned.

About the spirits.
Is this a complete thought?

I believe that everything and anything has a spirit.
This has nothing to do with the thread.

But why are ghosts seen more at night? In my opinion it goes back to the basics. Light = Good. Dark = Evil. God casted the evil into the darkness.
This is basic? What does it mean?

During the day you are less susceptable because in your mind, you cannot see them during the day ...
Um, OK.

At night however the evil spirits are out and about and in your mind you are very susceptible.
Is he talking about reality or imagination?

In my opinion spirits can only show themselves to you if you are susceptible, if you believe that they can.
Sounds like he is agreeing with me that it IS imagination.

Take someone who was raised to believe that ghosts do not exist and bring them to indian grounds at night and have them yell out for the spirits to go fuck themselves, I guarantee nothing will happen.
I agree. Nothing would happen. (Though I would not do such a disrespectful thing.)

Do the same with somebody who is open minded and somthing very different will happen starting with a chill running up their spine to the point where tears are rolling down their face.. Your mind is YOU.
I agree. Imagination is very powerful.

If someone TRULY believes in their mind that the world is flat, I mean DEAD SET that the world is flat, no matter how much proof there is, or pictures, you are not going to believe it.
Nothing to do with the thread. Is the world flatter at night?


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Re: Why we mainly see UFOs and ghosts at night [Re: Spokesman]
    #2464073 - 03/23/04 02:40 PM (20 years, 3 months ago)

40 percent of the UFO videos i've seen are in brawd daylight.
That would mean that 60% are at night (hence more prevalent).

I have never heard of UFO's being more prevelant at night, is there any proof to back up that more people spot UFO's at night?
So I am to disregard your earlier contradictory statement?


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Re: Why we mainly see UFOs and ghosts at night [Re: Swami]
    #2464153 - 03/23/04 03:06 PM (20 years, 3 months ago)

40 % of the ufo videos 'I HAVE SEEN' has nothing to do with the percentage of daylight videos in existance. Also notice i said 'BRAWD DAYLIGHT', Even so 10 % wouldn't be enough to dictate that people see UFOs mainly at night because you made it clear in this thread that your intention was to absolutly discredit all UFO sightings as misinterpretations in the darkness. Wich even if i had said 30 % i would have still gotten the point across.


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Re: Why we mainly see UFOs and ghosts at night [Re: Spokesman]
    #2464234 - 03/23/04 03:28 PM (20 years, 3 months ago)

lol, someone actually did reserach on the frequency of daylight in UFO videos?


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Re: Why we mainly see UFOs and ghosts at night [Re: Spokesman]
    #2464245 - 03/23/04 03:32 PM (20 years, 3 months ago)

As some of you guys hate to discredit personal stories, here are a few of mine:

I saw a crowd of people ooh & ahh as they swapped tales of UFOs over a misslie test explosion in CA that turned part of the sky an unnatural color.

I watched as several people got ALL excited seeing the Fuji blimp over downtown Las Vegas at night. It certainly looked mysterious being so large and surrounded by lights. It's identity would have been obvious during the day.

I was camping with a bunch of shroomers who swore that Venus was a UFO following them.

Went to the infamous Gulf Breeze, Florida (home of hoaxed photos). There was a UFO watch group that went to the shore most every night. It was in the path of a commercial airlines and near a military base. Every time an airplane flew over, several in the crowd would gasp and giggle nervously. Helicopters and jet fighters in the distance also brought sounds of amazement. Would this happen in the daytime? No.


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Re: Why we mainly see UFOs and ghosts at night [Re: psyka]
    #2464264 - 03/23/04 03:37 PM (20 years, 3 months ago)

there's so much out there...

who is anyone to say something does exist...

then again who is anyone to say that something doesn't exist.

so let's use some our brains here

"Depending on who you talk to, the universe is 12 to 15 billion years old. Humans "civilization" have only been around for 40,000 years. We really are the new kids on the block. It would just be too tough a pill to swallow to believe that nothing else has evolved in all that time and space."

""More than a half century later, the Hubble telescope has shown that there are at least 100 billion such galaxies," said Shostak. Our galaxy, the Milky Way, is home to at least 100 billion stars."


"Planets are also plentiful. Since 1995, when the first Jupiter-sized planet outside of our solar system was found, astronomers have been able to identify about 100 more planets, all of them around 300 times more massive than Earth.

"Planets really are as common as phone poles," said Shostak. "Right now, we know that there are planets out there [orbiting] ten or twenty percent of the stars we look at. So far, only huge planets have been found, but it would be a big surprise if there were only big ones. I don't think anyone expects that to be the case."

so yeha if there's all this posibility, and how highly probable aliens exist, why wouldn't there be other lifeforms looking at us? we're curious mammals and I'm sure at the very least aliens are curious about life on other planets as well

now sure this doesn't PROVE anything. but it certainly leans way more to poeple probably seeing these UFO's than the opposite.

now as far as ghosts goes..I dunno..Ican't say..and I'm definately not going to RULE IT OUT.


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Re: Why we mainly see UFOs and ghosts at night [Re: Swami]
    #2464266 - 03/23/04 03:37 PM (20 years, 3 months ago)

Yes it is human nature for people to make things bigger than what they are.

Going off topic: Swami, what do you think crop circles are?


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Re: Why we mainly see UFOs and ghosts at night [Re: psyka]
    #2464278 - 03/23/04 03:41 PM (20 years, 3 months ago)

hehe I swear there's another thread about it.

swami, jsut becausey ou saw one or even 20 incident(s), does it hold true for all the other cases?


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Annnnnnd I had a light saber and my friend was there and I said "you look like an indian" and he said "you look like satan" and he found a stick and a rock and he named the rock ooga booga and he named the stick Stick and we both thought that was pretty funny. We got eaten alive by mosquitos but didn't notice til the next day. I stepped on some glass while wading in the swamp and cut my foot open, didn't bother me til the next day either....yeah it was a good time, ended the night by buying some liquor for minors and drinking nips and going to he diner and eating chicken fingers, and then I went home and went to bed.

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Re: Why we mainly see UFOs and ghosts at night [Re: kaiowas]
    #2464311 - 03/23/04 03:52 PM (20 years, 3 months ago)

swami, jsut becausey ou saw one or even 20 incident(s), does it hold true for all the other cases?

Of course it doesn't. I just explained why sightings are more prevalent at night due to imagination and limited detail. That was all.

Oh yeah, also saw the infamous Marfa Lights in Texas. Looked like car headlights on a distant hill to me. And NO ONE sees the Marfa Lights during the day. (headlights are off?)


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Re: Why we mainly see UFOs and ghosts at night [Re: kaiowas]
    #2464317 - 03/23/04 03:54 PM (20 years, 3 months ago)

Your arguments for exo-biology are NOT arguments for alien visitation.


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Re: Why we mainly see UFOs and ghosts at night [Re: Swami]
    #2464359 - 03/23/04 04:07 PM (20 years, 3 months ago)

indeed swami, but did you think about what I said about saying that it's jsut as easy to say that something isn't there is to something is there.

Exo-bilogy wasn';t the point, it was to show that there's a high probability that aliens do exist. because of this..implying that there's no aliens visiting us, or at least having that way of thinking is a limited point of view, is it not?


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Annnnnnd I had a light saber and my friend was there and I said "you look like an indian" and he said "you look like satan" and he found a stick and a rock and he named the rock ooga booga and he named the stick Stick and we both thought that was pretty funny. We got eaten alive by mosquitos but didn't notice til the next day. I stepped on some glass while wading in the swamp and cut my foot open, didn't bother me til the next day either....yeah it was a good time, ended the night by buying some liquor for minors and drinking nips and going to he diner and eating chicken fingers, and then I went home and went to bed.

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Re: Why we mainly see UFOs and ghosts at night [Re: kaiowas]
    #2464372 - 03/23/04 04:09 PM (20 years, 3 months ago)

Well, i guess your beliefs can't help but be influenced by your past experiences and if i was in the situations you listed. I would also be highly skeptical about the whole "UFO" seen. Still, the situations you described, all the hoaxes that have been exposed and all the misinterpertation of objects in the sky combined together doesent even come close to the detailed accounts of U.F.O experiences out there. The most intresting of them are sightings that took place BEFORE airplanes even existed. Look into the reports that have been buried in History. The stuff wich has been documented, physical evidancve withheld and yet erased from our history. Then when your done looking into it, think this. If our Goverment & Military, and by that i mean the U.S. goverment with it's tight messures in securety and its desire to advance beyong any other country. If they had knowledge of an evolved species that has been visiting us, would they want the General Public to know? Would they want their enemy countries to know? Their is a major list of reason for them not to want this knowledge to spread. And "CHAOS" is not at the to of the list.

These UFO could very well be our creation, or a speacies living in this planet wich we are unaware of. It could even be us researching our past after time travel is invented 1000 years from now who knows. But their are so much possibilities and secrecy out there that we cannot ignore something just because a few dumbasses thought a blimp looked like a UFO at night.


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Re: Why we mainly see UFOs and ghosts at night [Re: kaiowas]
    #2464406 - 03/23/04 04:20 PM (20 years, 3 months ago)








Hmmmm...

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Re: Why we mainly see UFOs and ghosts at night [Re: kaiowas]
    #2464430 - 03/23/04 04:24 PM (20 years, 3 months ago)

Exo-bilogy wasn';t the point, it was to show that there's a high probability that aliens do exist.
I think we were saying the same thing using different terms.

because of this..implying that there's no aliens visiting us, or at least having a look is a limited point of view, is it not?
Alien visitation takes scores of HUGE assumptions. I will not list them all, but here are a few:

1. Other life forms exist.

2. That some are highly intelligent.

3. They they develop technology.

4. That they would have any desire or means to travel to other worlds. Star Trek & sci-fi aside; we have no idea if interstellar travel is indeed possible.

5. Even assuming warp 10 capability, the odds of them finding us are virtually nil. It would be easier to find a specific grain of sand somewhere on this planet. Despite popular opinion and SETI, they could NOT find us by our TV radiation.

And so many more...


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Re: Why we mainly see UFOs and ghosts at night [Re: Swami]
    #2464444 - 03/23/04 04:30 PM (20 years, 3 months ago)

yes I agree!!! :grin:

but I'm syaing is it's jsut as easy to say something isn't there as ther is to say somethign isn't there.

there's jsut as many assumptions going along to say that what people see isn't what they think it is. this too is limiting.

1)  assuming intelligent life doesn't exist

2)  that we are the only intelligence there is

3) saying interstellar travel isn't possible

"Even assuming warp 10 capability, the odds of them finding us are virtually nil. It would be easier to find a specific grain of sand somewhere on this planet. despite popular opinion and SETI, that could NOT find us by our TV radiation."

you are assuming that our technology is the best thing out there.  that what we know is the only thing that can be known.  there's so many possibilites you might be ignoring


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Annnnnnd I had a light saber and my friend was there and I said "you look like an indian" and he said "you look like satan" and he found a stick and a rock and he named the rock ooga booga and he named the stick Stick and we both thought that was pretty funny. We got eaten alive by mosquitos but didn't notice til the next day. I stepped on some glass while wading in the swamp and cut my foot open, didn't bother me til the next day either....yeah it was a good time, ended the night by buying some liquor for minors and drinking nips and going to he diner and eating chicken fingers, and then I went home and went to bed.

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