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Redstorm
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I reserve the right to share whatever information I wish in this forum without having to provide documentation or anything, this isn't court, say and believe what you will, it's not my problem.
I'm not here to debate, prove, or disprove anything. I'm here to share and gather information, the validity of which is for the reader to decide.
"This forum is debate oriented and designed for those who seek a lively discussion full of dissenting opinions and rebutted arguments."
Perhaps this is a better place for you not to want to make a point.
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EternalCowabunga
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Silversoul said: I sometimes wonder if certain UFO sightings represent a non-physical phenomenon.
Yes, me too. I have seen one UFO but me and my friends who saw it were all on various psychedelics so it does make me wonder.
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OrgoneConclusion
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Re: UFO's [Re: Ogla]
#7647800 - 11/17/07 02:41 PM (16 years, 2 months ago) |
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If I show you various metal objects, you can determine their point of origin?
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These guys can tell whether or not the objects and aliens are sterile just by looking at them. So of course they can tell the origin. Sheesh!
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Re: UFO's [Re: Diploid]
#7647870 - 11/17/07 03:10 PM (16 years, 2 months ago) |
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Extraordinary claims require extraordinary ignorance. ~ Karl Sayagain
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losfreddy said:
I saw a UFO in the fields over the city i live in. But was not a spec of light. It was a giant metallic disk my friend and i saw while riding in my car. Hovering over a cow field. we watched for a good 30 seconds and it disappeared. Even stranger, an hour later, there were military choppers flying in the area. I know what i saw was extra terrestrial. the image of a strange flying object in the fields over paterson still linger in my memory. It's quiet grasps you by the balls when your looking at something you'd think to only see on TV. It was this time of year a year ago when i saw it .. Late October, early November 2006.. defiently strange
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Not denying your experience, but that is exactly the point I am trying to make. Just because it is a UFO, doesn't mean it's an alien vessel.
You just cannot be certain.
I read a quote once that said "The quest for certainty blinds the quest for truth". I forget who said it, but I feel it applicable.
Perhaps you can elaborate on exactly why you thought it was extra-terrestrial. That is more what I am interested in as opposed to the whole aliens vs. no aliens debate. The fact that it was unidentified just means that you don't know what it is. What made you jump to the conclusion that it was an alien ship?
To me, seeing military helicopters flying around after seems to be evidence of military test rather than an alien encounter.
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EternalCowabunga
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When you dream of UFOs it supposedly means that you "need to become more grounded". Perhaps this could apply to the physical world as well. Something to think about.
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Perhaps you can elaborate on exactly why you thought it was extra-terrestrial.
The one UFO that I saw upclose was stamped, "Made in the Pleides" on the bottom.
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Lion
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That's bullshit, everyone knows the Pleidians speak Portuguese.
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MushroomTrip
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EternalCowabunga said: When you dream of UFOs it supposedly means that you "need to become more grounded". Perhaps this could apply to the physical world as well. Something to think about.
Hmm I never saw any sense in this kind of dream interpretation. It just doesn't make any sense to me, people dream similar and sometimes identical things for different reasons. Besides, this kind of interpretation reminds me of fortune telling. It is very possible to see UFOs and I've seen a few in my life. It just doesn't mean that they're extraterrestrial spaceships.
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EternalCowabunga
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It made sense to me. I always seem to have the UFO dream when I am way out there in my head. I mean, I used to have the UFO dream A LOT. Many people see UFOs when they are way out there on drugs.
Terrence Mckenna once said that UFOs are our subconscious desperately trying to communicate with us because we have become so alienated from it.
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Lion
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EternalCowabunga said: It made sense to me. I always seem to have the UFO dream when I am way out there in my head. I mean, I used to have the UFO dream A LOT. Many people see UFOs when they are way out there on drugs.
Terrence Mckenna once said that UFOs are our subconscious desperately trying to communicate with us because we have become so alienated from it.
Interesting. I can relate, having had some cool UFO dream experiences myself. (None IRL though, though I know people who have.)
What does being more grounded mean to you? I think I know what you mean but not 100% sure.
McKenna have very cool ideas about UFOs; I like his idea about it being the Goddess reasserting herself on a world dominated by images of male deity and the like. Whether there's even a grain of truth to it, I think it's trippy to think about.
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Re: UFO's [Re: Lion]
#7648280 - 11/17/07 05:22 PM (16 years, 2 months ago) |
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EternalCowabunga said: It made sense to me. I always seem to have the UFO dream when I am way out there in my head. I mean, I used to have the UFO dream A LOT. Many people see UFOs when they are way out there on drugs.
Terrence Mckenna once said that UFOs are our subconscious desperately trying to communicate with us because we have become so alienated from it.
Interesting. I can relate, having had some cool UFO dream experiences myself. (None IRL though, though I know people who have.)
What does being more grounded mean to you? I think I know what you mean but not 100% sure.
McKenna have very cool ideas about UFOs; I like his idea about it being the Goddess reasserting herself on a world dominated by images of male deity and the like. Whether there's even a grain of truth to it, I think it's trippy to think about.
Thanks for asking as I was actually going to make a thread about it but decided not to as I didn't have the idea fleshed out too well.
Being grounded to me means being >focused< and when you are focused the thing you are focused on is What Is Important. Human relationships, working towards self-improvement, ongoing trust in the Universe. I find that when I am grounded, my feet are literally planted firmly on the ground
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That's what I thought. 
I need to get outdoors more, and not to search the skies for Pleidians. 
(Not that it wouldn't be cool to find some.)
(And also kind of scary.)
(In a good way.)
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MushroomTrip
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EternalCowabunga said: It made sense to me. I always seem to have the UFO dream when I am way out there in my head. I mean, I used to have the UFO dream A LOT. Many people see UFOs when they are way out there on drugs.
Terrence Mckenna once said that UFOs are our subconscious desperately trying to communicate with us because we have become so alienated from it.
Many of our dreams ARE our subconscious thoughts. I guess in a way makes sense, but it just doesn't apply to all cases. But yeah, turning the subconscious into conscious remains a good idea.  Now totally off topic, I wonder why I always dream about elevators.
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Re: UFO's [Re: Lion]
#7648316 - 11/17/07 05:34 PM (16 years, 2 months ago) |
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I need more reasons to go outside, but I don't need a reason. But in a way I do
Must find something that I really enjoy doing that I can't do in the comfort of my living room.
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Now totally off topic, I wonder why I always dream about elevators.
You like pushing people's buttons? 
And getting lifted. 
Opening doors.
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Lion
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EternalCowabunga said: I need more reasons to go outside, but I don't need a reason. But in a way I do
Must find something that I really enjoy doing that I can't do in the comfort of my living room.
Quail hunting!
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Re: UFO's [Re: Lion]
#7648335 - 11/17/07 05:39 PM (16 years, 2 months ago) |
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Re: UFO's [Re: Lion]
#7648358 - 11/17/07 05:44 PM (16 years, 2 months ago) |
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Now totally off topic, I wonder why I always dream about elevators.
You like pushing people's buttons? 
And getting lifted. 
Opening doors.
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