durian_2008 said:

These 'libs-of-tik-tok' don't produce any value for society, so can't survive, physically, without some version of welfare statism, a sinecure, or Soros.

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dinosaurs said:

you're missing the point entirely.  they've designated an ideology as a "terrorist organization"

whats that mean to vicepope?  piss off the wrong maga dumbasses and you get labeled "antifa" and now the FBI/CTTF/IRS is up your ass and hanging cases on you.  so if you can even afford the legal representation you need at that point, your life is ruined anyways because your name is in the news as a terrorist, and you probably need security because of violent maga assholes.  then your lawyer tells you how the feds have a 90%+ conviction rate and that even though you both know you're innocent, your lawyer recommends you plead out and have any chance of seeing freedom again. 

a few of you dont seem to understand how serious this specific thing is.  the fascistic govt created a boogeyman designation they can slap on anyone, and prosecuting that designation comes with some of the most serious penalties possible.

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christopera said:

What’s your ex brother in laws opinion on the matter?

That’s the standard we use around here. It’s one of the most rigerous ones.

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ballsalsa said:

When I was 8 my mom bought me a journal.  Like, yeah, let me write down my true thoughts, feelings, insecurities and vulnerabilities.  To what end?  I made 1 entry.  It went something like this: "My mom gave me this journal because she's a stupid bitch and she thinks I am too."

I was a paranoid little shit
               

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That's too cool to be true

Sulfurshelfsean said:

Elyse is all nuance, no facts. In other words he just makes up what he feels is going on. Fascists are all about the feels, not about the facts.

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dinosaurs said:

you're missing the point entirely.  they've designated an ideology as a "terrorist organization"

whats that mean to vicepope?  piss off the wrong maga dumbasses and you get labeled "antifa" and now the FBI/CTTF/IRS is up your ass and hanging cases on you.  so if you can even afford the legal representation you need at that point, your life is ruined anyways because your name is in the news as a terrorist, and you probably need security because of violent maga assholes.  then your lawyer tells you how the feds have a 90%+ conviction rate and that even though you both know you're innocent, your lawyer recommends you plead out and have any chance of seeing freedom again. 

a few of you dont seem to understand how serious this specific thing is.  the fascistic govt created a boogeyman designation they can slap on anyone, and prosecuting that designation comes with some of the most serious penalties possible.

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FoolOfElysium said:

Sulfurshelfsean said:

Elyse is all nuance, no facts. In other words he just makes up what he feels is going on. Fascists are all about the feels, not about the facts.

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And *you* are all accusation, no discussion. Despite everyone here constantly tossing daggers my way, at least I *try* to make a conversation out of it.

In 2025, the losing arguments are the ones that do exactly what you're doing, which is ignoring the discussion itself and focusing on on the one pointing out the obvious. You're welcome to keep doing it, but outside of this echo-chamber, it's a losing strategy, so you might wanna roll up your sleeves and get some practice in, because the narrative is shifting and a lot of people here aren't gonna be able to handle it. Your personal attacks simply do not work any longer. Guilt and shame do not work any longer. The left has lost the cancel-culture war and are still blaming others because they've also completely lost the plot.

They won't silence us with the naysaying, they simply make us go harder.

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christopera said:

FoolOfElysium said:

Sulfurshelfsean said:

Elyse is all nuance, no facts. In other words he just makes up what he feels is going on. Fascists are all about the feels, not about the facts.

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And *you* are all accusation, no discussion. Despite everyone here constantly tossing daggers my way, at least I *try* to make a conversation out of it.

In 2025, the losing arguments are the ones that do exactly what you're doing, which is ignoring the discussion itself and focusing on on the one pointing out the obvious. You're welcome to keep doing it, but outside of this echo-chamber, it's a losing strategy, so you might wanna roll up your sleeves and get some practice in, because the narrative is shifting and a lot of people here aren't gonna be able to handle it. Your personal attacks simply do not work any longer. Guilt and shame do not work any longer. The left has lost the cancel-culture war and are still blaming others because they've also completely lost the plot.

They won't silence us with the naysaying, they simply make us go harder.

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Stop with your appeal to emotion. People regularly asked for real quantifiable proof from you and you NEVER produce it. You’re an easy target because you’re as intellectually lazy as they come. You clearly are in denial and that’s okay. It’s not our problem except in that we have read your made up crap more often than we should. This is why people poke fun at you.

Go ahead and negotiate or explain this away. The vast majority here see directly through your spiel. You can attempt some real growth or you can continue down your merry little way.

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