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Right, and that is going to occur at the same times that pigs fly.

Hillary had over 300,000 more votes than ALL THREE REPUBLICAN REPS COMBINED....combine that with 700,000 votes for Bernie....that is about 1.8 million votes for the D in New York compared to 800K for the R.....
AND TRUMP WILL WIN IT? GIVE ME A FUCKING BREAK.
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Re: Trump Will Beat Hillary In New York If He Is The Republican Nominee..... [Re: starfire_xes]
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I'm not sure what that that statement even means. NY, Illinois and California are the bluest states in the country. Despite whatever polls people spout about, the real polls have Hillary beating Trump by double didgits nationwide. I'm pretty sure about Pennsylvania and most likely Ohio. Florida is always up for grabs, but Texas is the only Red state that has big time electoral votes.
A Democrat against a Republican is one thing and I understand that debate. Trump is another thing entirely. I really think all he cares about is getting better ratings in his next reality TV show.
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Re: Trump Will Beat Hillary In New York If He Is The Republican Nominee..... [Re: starfire_xes]
#23146471 - 04/23/16 07:58 AM (7 years, 9 months ago) |
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starfire_xes said: Right, and that is going to occur at the same times that pigs fly.

Hillary had over 300,000 more votes than ALL THREE REPUBLICAN REPS COMBINED....combine that with 700,000 votes for Bernie....that is about 1.8 million votes for the D in New York compared to 800K for the R.....
AND TRUMP WILL WIN IT? GIVE ME A FUCKING BREAK.
Does the primary bring out the same turnout as the general election? No, so why are you trying to make that a logical outcome?
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qman, NY isnt turning red. Lets not even entertain the possibility.
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Re: Trump Will Beat Hillary In New York If He Is The Republican Nominee..... [Re: The Ecstatic]
#23148030 - 04/23/16 06:25 PM (7 years, 9 months ago) |
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The Ecstatic said: qman, NY isnt turning red. Lets not even entertain the possibility.
The irony is, Trump isn't even conservative. He is whatever he needs to say to get the votes. Remember how he was trying to quote scripture and shit and he got a bunch of evangelical votes. He is the biggest fucking fraud in this election.
THIS:
In two interviews from yesterday and today Trump has said grown men should be allowed to use bathrooms with little girls, that the "wealthy" should be taxed more, that illegals should be let right back in and given Amnesty after they leave, the GOP platform on Abortion should be changed and he will not focus on the debt?
How about that Trumpsters? There's your hero. 
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Re: Trump Will Beat Hillary In New York If He Is The Republican Nominee..... [Re: starfire_xes]
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PS your votes mean shit
no matter who is elected president your life will change 0% unless you make over 6 figures.
your opportunities come from yourself in this country, make it happen with your work. complaining about who is going to hold an office that influences your life so little is for retards.
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Re: Trump Will Beat Hillary In New York If He Is The Republican Nominee..... [Re: bodhisatta] 2
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bodhisatta said: no matter who is elected president your life will change 0% unless you make over 6 figures.
If minimum wage were increased from $7.25 to $15, a great many people's lives would change for the better.
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Re: Trump Will Beat Hillary In New York If He Is The Republican Nominee..... [Re: Falcon91Wolvrn03]
#23149399 - 04/24/16 06:40 AM (7 years, 9 months ago) |
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If you think you need 15/hr to fix your life you need to work harder and not try to vote your way to better circumstances.
Besides federal minimum wage hikes are historically very racist policy once put into action it hurts niggers most. It hurts Batista's and hipster kids second most.
I'm secretly for a wage hike because I don't like lazy kids. And it will fuck them so hard
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Re: Trump Will Beat Hillary In New York If He Is The Republican Nominee..... [Re: Falcon91Wolvrn03]
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bodhisatta said: no matter who is elected president your life will change 0% unless you make over 6 figures.
If minimum wage were increased from $7.25 to $15, a great many people's lives would change for the better.
And a great many for the worse.
http://www.investors.com/politics/editorials/uc-berkeley-touts-15-minimum-wage-then-fires-hundreds-of-workers-after-it-passes/
The $15 minimum wage is actually a zero maximum wage for many people. I can't wait until automation catches up with the change.
Trump has no shot in the NY general. No Republican does.
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Re: Trump Will Beat Hillary In New York If He Is The Republican Nominee..... [Re: bodhisatta]
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bodhisatta said: If you think you need 15/hr to fix your life you need to work harder and not try to vote your way to better circumstances.
Working harder for $7.25 isn't going to improve anyone's life except the business owner.
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bodhisatta said: Besides federal minimum wage hikes are historically very racist policy once put into action it hurts niggers most. It hurts Batista's and hipster kids second most.
I'm secretly for a wage hike because I don't like lazy kids. And it will fuck them so hard
Historically, minimum wage hikes have no impact on overall employment. This has been shown ad nauseam here. If you have empirical data backing up your point, please share it.
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Re: Trump Will Beat Hillary In New York If He Is The Republican Nominee..... [Re: zappaisgod] 1
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Falcon91Wolvrn03 said: If minimum wage were increased from $7.25 to $15, a great many people's lives would change for the better.
And a great many for the worse.
http://www.investors.com/politics/editorials/uc-berkeley-touts-15-minimum-wage-then-fires-hundreds-of-workers-after-it-passes/
The $15 minimum wage is actually a zero maximum wage for many people.
As was pointed out in the previous post (for about the 10th time), minimum wage has been shown to have no impact on employment because workers today are so underpaid.
At UC Berkeley, departments have all been told to reduce their budgets by 10 percent. THAT'S the reason for the job cuts. The $15 minimum wage doesn't take effect until 2022.
Another nice swing and miss though.
http://www.sfgate.com/education/article/UC-Berkeley-to-eliminate-500-staff-jobs-7244049.php
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Re: Trump Will Beat Hillary In New York If He Is The Republican Nominee..... [Re: Falcon91Wolvrn03]
#23150550 - 04/24/16 03:46 PM (7 years, 9 months ago) |
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if america gets Trump = WGAF if america gets Hilary = WGAF
America...the same story.
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Re: Drumpf Will Beat Hillary In New York If He Is The Republican Nominee..... [Re: bodhisatta]
#23151545 - 04/24/16 08:51 PM (7 years, 8 months ago) |
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bodhisatta said: If you think you need 15/hr to fix your life you need to work harder and not try to vote your way to better circumstances.
Besides federal minimum wage hikes are historically very racist policy once put into action it hurts niggers most. It hurts Batista's and hipster kids second most.
I'm secretly for a wage hike because I don't like lazy kids. And it will fuck them so hard
You do realize more white workers work at or below minimum wage, right? And that the per capita rates of workers at those wages are roughly equal amongst the races?
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Re: Drumpf Will Beat Hillary In New York If He Is The Republican Nominee..... [Re: BoldAsLove]
#23152308 - 04/25/16 04:28 AM (7 years, 8 months ago) |
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I think personally that the minimum wage should be set per county/region based on the avg cost of living... 15$ in a lot of Idaho etc, is pretty decent pay.... on the west coast though 15$ is necessary to survive basically.
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Re: Drumpf Will Beat Hillary In New York If He Is The Republican Nominee..... [Re: twighead]
#23153286 - 04/25/16 12:38 PM (7 years, 8 months ago) |
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Working harder for $7.25 isn't going to improve anyone's life except the business owner.
should get shot. business owners should fill mass graves. let's just reboot the system. fuck the greed mongers. i know we'll just make new ones, but who gives a fuck...there are problems now. let's take drastic action.
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Re: Drumpf Will Beat Hillary In New York If He Is The Republican Nominee..... [Re: akira_akuma]
#23153397 - 04/25/16 01:15 PM (7 years, 8 months ago) |
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Yeah let's kill all the business owners so that everyone can be unemployed like Akira.
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Re: Drumpf Will Beat Hillary In New York If He Is The Republican Nominee..... [Re: Shins]
#23153406 - 04/25/16 01:17 PM (7 years, 8 months ago) |
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reboot the laissez faire economy. trust me, my singular way is best for all...i'm Christian. trust, bro.
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Re: Drumpf Will Beat Hillary In New York If He Is The Republican Nominee..... [Re: akira_akuma]
#23153439 - 04/25/16 01:25 PM (7 years, 8 months ago) |
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Akira is super mad about Christians today. I wonder which Christian wrecked him in a debate to get him so heated.
Only a fucktard would want to kill a bunch of business owners. "I am unemployed and want your money that you worked hard for, BUT YOU'RE THE GREEDY ONE" what a load of shit
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Re: Drumpf Will Beat Hillary In New York If He Is The Republican Nominee..... [Re: Webster10]
#23153466 - 04/25/16 01:29 PM (7 years, 8 months ago) |
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LOL i am waxing absurd because of Christian idiocy. no one "wreaked" me. i wreak all christian/right-wing stupid arguments, and they all either eventually shut up, meet me at the bedrock of assumptions met by both me and my opponent (after argument ad absurdum/ad nauseum) or they call me a freedom-hating troll. not. i don't like people impinging on other people's rights and freedoms, that's actually the case.
either way, i don't think your dumb ass country is a dumb ass Christian nation...just the same that i don't think your country is a free nation either, not with idiots trying to serve justice to innocent people, somehow...mostly the idiot Christians, of course.
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"I am unemployed and want your money that you worked hard for, BUT YOU'RE THE GREEDY ONE"
fuck off. i don't want your stinking money. idiots want money; got nothing else to live for.
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Re: Drumpf Will Beat Hillary In New York If He Is The Republican Nominee..... [Re: akira_akuma]
#23153478 - 04/25/16 01:32 PM (7 years, 8 months ago) |
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America is literally the best country on Earth and I'd be severely disappointed to live anywhere else. Especially Canada, the land of pussies.
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Re: Drumpf Will Beat Hillary In New York If He Is The Republican Nominee..... [Re: Webster10]
#23153495 - 04/25/16 01:35 PM (7 years, 8 months ago) |
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LOL, yeah, that's true. except it's not. Canada/US = same amount of pussidom.
you cannot claim America is not pusillanimous to the extreme...just because there are some 'extreme' people like yourself (LOL) there are also those people here in Canada. remember when you frigging useless retards in the US let ISIS run amok, instead of going in to do anything to stop them, because the right-wing were too much of some dirty stinky pussies to go and fight? ya, sadly it's catching on. fucking filth buckets.
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#23153543 - 04/25/16 01:51 PM (7 years, 8 months ago) |
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Webster10 said: America is literally the best country on Earth and I'd be severely disappointed to live anywhere else. Especially Canada, the land of pussies.
It used to be the best country decades ago, I would say half of this nation really is at a second world status in many ways, the infrastructure is truly falling apart, so many community's destroyed when their anchor companies get sent out of the US.
The sad fact, so many people don't have a clue how good it was in the past, they have no idea.
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Re: Drumpf Will Beat Hillary In New York If He Is The Republican Nominee..... [Re: qman]
#23153571 - 04/25/16 01:57 PM (7 years, 8 months ago) |
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with the exception of civil rights for ALL people, as opposed to just conservative whites...yes. it was great. then the hippies (liberals) rose up because conservative chicken hawks were preying on blacks and other minorities. if it wasn't for that blatant idiocy, then it would have been perfect,...and if it wasn't for that blatant idiocy, it could have stayed perfect. but no...not America...the land of the chicken hawks.
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#23153578 - 04/25/16 02:00 PM (7 years, 8 months ago) |
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Webster10 said: America is literally the best country on Earth and I'd be severely disappointed to live anywhere else. Especially Canada, the land of pussies.
Best country based on what metric?
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Re: Drumpf Will Beat Hillary In New York If He Is The Republican Nominee..... [Re: akira_akuma]
#23153582 - 04/25/16 02:01 PM (7 years, 8 months ago) |
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akira_akuma said: with the exception of civil rights for ALL people, as opposed to just conservative whites...yes. it was great. then the hippies (liberals) rose up because conservative chicken hawks were preying on blacks and other minorities. if it wasn't for that blatant idiocy, then it would have been perfect,...and if it wasn't for that blatant idiocy, it could have stayed perfect. but no...not America...the land of the chicken hawks.
Bringing in tens of millions of illegals didn't help either, but some people were intent on destroying this nation, they did a good job.
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Re: Drumpf Will Beat Hillary In New York If He Is The Republican Nominee..... [Re: akira_akuma]
#23153584 - 04/25/16 02:01 PM (7 years, 8 months ago) |
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akira_akuma said: LOL, yeah, that's true. except it's not. Canada/US = same amount of pussidom.
you cannot claim America is not pusillanimous to the extreme...just because there are some 'extreme' people like yourself (LOL) there are also those people here in Canada. remember when you frigging useless retards in the US let ISIS run amok, instead of going in to do anything to stop them, because the right-wing were too much of some dirty stinky pussies to go and fight? ya, sadly it's catching on. fucking filth buckets.
And what the fuck did Canada do to combat ISIS? Way less than the "filth buckets" in the US, I'll tell you that. Canada is so much more pussy than the US, they're really not even comparable countries. And yes, America has declined, and it still is declining, rather rapidly under this current administration, IMO. But it's still a long shot ahead of the competition.
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Re: Drumpf Will Beat Hillary In New York If He Is The Republican Nominee..... [Re: BoldAsLove]
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Webster10 said: America is literally the best country on Earth and I'd be severely disappointed to live anywhere else. Especially Canada, the land of pussies.
Best country based on what metric?
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Re: Drumpf Will Beat Hillary In New York If He Is The Republican Nominee..... [Re: Webster10]
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Webster10 said:
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Webster10 said: America is literally the best country on Earth and I'd be severely disappointed to live anywhere else. Especially Canada, the land of pussies.
Best country based on what metric?
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Re: Drumpf Will Beat Hillary In New York If He Is The Republican Nominee..... [Re: Webster10]
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Webster10 said: And what the fuck did Canada do to combat ISIS? Way less than the "filth buckets" in the US, I'll tell you that. Canada is so much more pussy than the US, they're really not even comparable countries. And yes, America has declined, and it still is declining, rather rapidly under this current administration, IMO. But it's still a long shot ahead of the competition.
Canada did the same repetitive shit that the US did, send ordinance. we needed boots there, before ISIS took over half the middle east, for fuck sakes. and it was I (a Canadian) telling you fucks over here (like you) to go and do something and not play the "America's got enough problems at home" card...what problems? trans bathroom rights? sjws? Jew media? all crap. ISIS was a REAL problem, and you all sat on your hands. so did Canada. it was a disgrace for both our nations.
and there isn't really much of a competition here -- it's a cold war. there's a difference.
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Re: Trump Will Beat Hillary In New York If He Is The Republican Nominee..... [Re: Falcon91Wolvrn03]
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Falcon91Wolvrn03 said: If minimum wage were increased from $7.25 to $15, a great many people's lives would change for the better.
And a great many for the worse.
http://www.investors.com/politics/editorials/uc-berkeley-touts-15-minimum-wage-then-fires-hundreds-of-workers-after-it-passes/
The $15 minimum wage is actually a zero maximum wage for many people.
As was pointed out in the previous post (for about the 10th time), minimum wage has been shown to have no impact on employment because workers today are so underpaid.
At UC Berkeley, departments have all been told to reduce their budgets by 10 percent. THAT'S the reason for the job cuts. The $15 minimum wage doesn't take effect until 2022.
Another nice swing and miss though.
http://www.sfgate.com/education/article/UC-Berkeley-to-eliminate-500-staff-jobs-7244049.php
The fact that you have quoted the same debunked nonsense ten times does not make it any more accurate.
http://www.ci.berkeley.ca.us/ContentDisplay.aspx?id=102361
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1) Q: Where can I find the current Berkeley minimum wage?
A: The current minimum wage is posted on the City of Berkeley website at www.cityofberkeley.info/MWO. You can also call 981-CITY/2489 or 3-1-1 from a landline in Berkeley) 2) Q: When does the new Berkeley minimum wage take effect?
A: Beginning October 1, 2014 the minimum wage in Berkeley will be $10.00 per hour; on October 1, 2015 the minimum wage will be $11.00 per hour; on October 1, 2016 the minimum wage in Berkeley will be $12.53 per hour. 3) Q: Does the Berkeley minimum wage apply to all employers that have employees who perform work in Berkeley?
A: Yes, all employers regardless of where they are located, must pay the Berkeley minimum wage to their employees who perform at least two hours of work in Berkeley.
Your article is from 2 years after they pumped up the minimum wage and 1 year after the second tier of increases. So, yeah, I do think that the wage increase causede a whole shit load of people to lose their jobs withmany many more to come. I can't wait to see the automated fry cook and burger flipper. Gonna be some super cool innovation there.
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Re: Trump Will Beat Hillary In New York If He Is The Republican Nominee..... [Re: zappaisgod]
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sounds like people are getting what they want, afterall.
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Re: Trump Will Beat Hillary In New York If He Is The Republican Nominee..... [Re: zappaisgod]
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It's not going to be as cool as you might think!
They won't be able to do quirky little fast food worker tricks that we all love, like drawing pictures on your pizza box, or subduing the violent ghetto youth that so plague their establishments.
This is your future:

This is mine:

30 minute delivery or the pizza is free, you get a free trip to sicily, and get a job working for the mob as a spokesman!
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Re: Trump Will Beat Hillary In New York If He Is The Republican Nominee..... [Re: twighead]
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They won't be able to do quirky little fast food worker tricks that we all love, like drawing pictures on your pizza box, or subduing the violent ghetto youth that so plague their establishments.
This is your future:

My future? That was my childhood http://www.6sqft.com/horn-and-hardart-automats-redefining-lunchtime-dining-on-a-dime/
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Oh those look fun, I like the art deco writing. Creamed spinach from a cubby hole! Doesn't feel trustworthy, but I'm sure I'd change my tune once those laborless savings kick in.
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i like it better when grubby teenagers make my food with their ass cheeks.
not this ploping ready-made's into a vent shit! 
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Doesn't it annoy you when some human wrote in the script for a machine to treat you all 'personal'

Don't fucking try to cozy up to me
You bucket of shit bolts you ain't got no personality
This is the real face of classy fast food:
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i want my food to pop out in to view with generous servings of tits or at least something fashionable, you robot CUNTS!
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When I can eat a frankfurter with mustard on it as it comes out of a hot bitches cunt, then you know fast food will be making a comeback over machines.
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Falcon91Wolvrn03 said: As was pointed out (for about the 10th time), minimum wage has been shown to have no impact on employment because workers today are so underpaid.
The fact that you have quoted the same debunked nonsense ten times does not make it any more accurate.
Empirical evidence was debunked? I can't wait for you to show us where someone debunked it. 
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Falcon91Wolvrn03 said: At UC Berkeley, departments have all been told to reduce their budgets by 10 percent. THAT'S the reason for the job cuts. The $15 minimum wage doesn't take effect until 2022.
Another nice swing and miss though.
http://www.sfgate.com/education/article/UC-Berkeley-to-eliminate-500-staff-jobs-7244049.php
Your article is from 2 years after they pumped up the minimum wage and 1 year after the second tier of increases. So, yeah, I do think that the wage increase causede a whole shit load of people to lose their jobs withmany many more to come. I can't wait to see the automated fry cook and burger flipper. Gonna be some super cool innovation there.
Once again, I can't wait to see your evidence that that Berkeley is losing jobs from the minimum wage.
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Falcon91Wolvrn03 said: As was pointed out (for about the 10th time), minimum wage has been shown to have no impact on employment because workers today are so underpaid.
The fact that you have quoted the same debunked nonsense ten times does not make it any more accurate.
Empirical evidence was debunked? I can't wait for you to show us where someone debunked it. 
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Falcon91Wolvrn03 said: At UC Berkeley, departments have all been told to reduce their budgets by 10 percent. THAT'S the reason for the job cuts. The $15 minimum wage doesn't take effect until 2022.
Another nice swing and miss though.
http://www.sfgate.com/education/article/UC-Berkeley-to-eliminate-500-staff-jobs-7244049.php
Your article is from 2 years after they pumped up the minimum wage and 1 year after the second tier of increases. So, yeah, I do think that the wage increase causede a whole shit load of people to lose their jobs withmany many more to come. I can't wait to see the automated fry cook and burger flipper. Gonna be some super cool innovation there.
Once again, I can't wait to see your evidence that that Berkeley is losing jobs from the minimum wage. 
Minimum wage goes up. They lay people off. Seems pretty evidentiary to me. If you have to cut the budget you have two choices. Cut pay rate or cut number of employees. Because cutting the pay rate is not an option they have to cut employees.
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if half of the people worked as hard as they "fight for 15" they would earn 15.
if you don't get a raise every 6-12 months, ask for one, if you don't get a performance review. fill out your resume and look elsewhere. or do you secretly know you suck fucking dick and are worthless and need the government to whip your ass for you because of "rich people, the NRA, republicans, racism"
what a bunch of whiny wieners. I would rather make less than 15 than look like one of those idiots with their 15/hr signs.
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#23175665 - 05/01/16 10:14 AM (7 years, 8 months ago) |
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I'm anti trump too but what's with the fucking liberals that are anti trump? they're the ones actually being terrorists and fucking niggers about everything.
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bodhisatta said: if half of the people worked as hard as they "fight for 15" they would earn 15.
if you don't get a raise every 6-12 months, ask for one, if you don't get a performance review. fill out your resume and look elsewhere. or do you secretly know you suck fucking dick and are worthless and need the government to whip your ass for you because of "rich people, the NRA, republicans, racism"
what a bunch of whiny wieners. I would rather make less than 15 than look like one of those idiots with their 15/hr signs.
Exactly right. If you are in the work force for more than 6 months and are still making minimum wage you are a fucking loser who doesn't deserve more.
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#23175674 - 05/01/16 10:17 AM (7 years, 8 months ago) |
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you know what, i deserve all of America's oil. watch out oilmen, watch for the hailstorm of bullets when i come for you, because hey, i gotta do what is in my own self-interest, and that is so i own everything because fuck you, and especially Zappa. definitely gonna own him too. own his little construction business. crush him like little bug. more power!
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#23175689 - 05/01/16 10:20 AM (7 years, 8 months ago) |
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Dude, you can't even support yourself. I don't think you are much of a threat to anybody in any way.
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#23175696 - 05/01/16 10:21 AM (7 years, 8 months ago) |
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i can't support myself? how? i can support myself just fine.
but i don't wanna be a threat...i'm not really a bad person...but i will threaten bad people whom wanna take shit from good people.
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#23176380 - 05/01/16 01:39 PM (7 years, 8 months ago) |
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People just assume akira can't support himself cause he acts so eccentrically bizarre, that's a logical fallacy!
I wouldn't be surprised if he's a supreme savant. One of those types that rubs their fingers all over a math problem and closes their eyes and all the sudden screams out the answer without having seen it.
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bodhisatta said: if half of the people worked as hard as they "fight for 15" they would earn 15.
if you don't get a raise every 6-12 months, ask for one, if you don't get a performance review. fill out your resume and look elsewhere. or do you secretly know you suck fucking dick and are worthless and need the government to whip your ass for you because of "rich people, the NRA, republicans, racism"
what a bunch of whiny wieners. I would rather make less than 15 than look like one of those idiots with their 15/hr signs.
Exactly right. If you are in the work force for more than 6 months and are still making minimum wage you are a fucking loser who doesn't deserve more.
or a fucking nigger, like the guy you quoted put it.
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#23177288 - 05/01/16 06:09 PM (7 years, 8 months ago) |
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Akira is an unemployed pseudointellectual. Nothing more.
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i am unemployed. 
please someone i desire you to put me in employment, employ me, please! oh god what would i ever do without employment!
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#23177539 - 05/01/16 07:23 PM (7 years, 8 months ago) |
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The "black" guys I associate with call all trash niggers alike they're an embarrassment to everyone's culture when they exist
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The only embarassment here is you and your ilk. The people who run this country (and world) have pretty easily convinced you that other poor people are the problem.
Good thing yall have Trump, though. If theres one thing that can solve the billionaires' stranglehold on disingenuous politicians, its making a disingenuous billionaire a politician.
Yall have it all figured out.
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And you're so retarded you think everyone is for Trump if they call out your own stupidity. Trump=Bernie=Hillary. If you make less than 6 figures your life may change .001% differently depending on which of those three gets elected
From an outside perspective though Trump supporters are the least annoying. And have caused the least problems and done the least amount of fucking up their own shit.
Trump is the only candidate that isn't a criminal yet because he hasn't been a politician. Though I don't doubt he will be just as bad as Bernie or Hillary or anyone else for that matter
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Good thing yall have Trump, though. If theres one thing that can solve the billionaires' stranglehold on disingenuous politicians, its making a disingenuous billionaire a politician.
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#23179088 - 05/02/16 07:25 AM (7 years, 8 months ago) |
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Besides Bernie is the most pro violence pro gun pro fascist candidate
You can not steal more rich people money, billionaires money without more IRS. You can't force them to comply with new tax regulation without the threat of violent action. You need more military style police.
Trickle down doesn't work but what really really doesn't work is taxing the rich and hoping their taxes trickle down to help yourself out. Trillions in debt and you think any new revenue for the gov is going to useful shit? No it's going to pay to grow the government to tax those rich more since their money creates new job opportunity in the government.
If Bernie manages to raise the wage to 15 nationwide then we will see violence skyrocket in minorities communities.
So you seen being pro Bernie isn't anti gun its very pro gun in the hands of the most belligerent gun handlers
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i bet zappa right now is thinking "why did i agree with this guy earlier now i look like an idiot"
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#23179110 - 05/02/16 07:35 AM (7 years, 8 months ago) |
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Bernie is Pro Fascist
What lead you to that conclusion? Would you care to discuss the 14 points of Fascism Here? See how you equate them with Bernie's politics.
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Re: Trump Will Beat Hillary In New York If He Is The Republican Nominee..... [Re: Citizen X]
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the effects of his policies and how they will be enforced will lead in a direction towards fascist tendencies in our government, especially given our societal structure and population size.
at the end of the day it's bernie sanders supporters who are going to get that fucking trump guy elected. because sanders supporters are the least self sufficient and most under educated(on par with trump supporters though) and annoying.
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bodhisatta said: the effects of his policies and how they will be enforced will lead in a direction towards fascist tendencies in our government, especially given our societal structure and population size.
at the end of the day it's bernie sanders supporters who are going to get that fucking trump guy elected. because sanders supporters are the least self sufficient and most under educated(on par with trump supporters though) and annoying.
Which one of these pops out at you when you think Bernie Sanders?
1. Powerful and Continuing Nationalism - Fascist regimes tend to make constant use of patriotic mottos, slogans, symbols, songs, and other paraphernalia. Flags are seen everywhere, as are flag symbols on clothing and in public displays. 2. Disdain for the Recognition of Human Rights - Because of fear of enemies and the need for security, the people in fascist regimes are persuaded that human rights can be ignored in certain cases because of "need." The people tend to look the other way or even approve of torture, summary executions, assassinations, long incarcerations of prisoners, etc. 3. Identification of Enemies/Scapegoats as a Unifying Cause - The people are rallied into a unifying patriotic frenzy over the need to eliminate a perceived common threat or foe: racial , ethnic or religious minorities; liberals; communists; socialists, terrorists, etc. 4. Supremacy of the Military - Even when there are widespread domestic problems, the military is given a disproportionate amount of government funding, and the domestic agenda is neglected. Soldiers and military service are glamorized. 5. Rampant Sexism - The governments of fascist nations tend to be almost exclusively male-dominated. Under fascist regimes, traditional gender roles are made more rigid. Divorce, abortion and homosexuality are suppressed and the state is represented as the ultimate guardian of the family institution. 6. Controlled Mass Media - Sometimes to media is directly controlled by the government, but in other cases, the media is indirectly controlled by government regulation, or sympathetic media spokespeople and executives. Censorship, especially in war time, is very common. 7. Obsession with National Security - Fear is used as a motivational tool by the government over the masses. 8. Religion and Government are Intertwined - Governments in fascist nations tend to use the most common religion in the nation as a tool to manipulate public opinion. Religious rhetoric and terminology is common from government leaders, even when the major tenets of the religion are diametrically opposed to the government's policies or actions. 9. Corporate Power is Protected - The industrial and business aristocracy of a fascist nation often are the ones who put the government leaders into power, creating a mutually beneficial business/government relationship and power elite. 10. Labor Power is Suppressed - Because the organizing power of labor is the only real threat to a fascist government, labor unions are either eliminated entirely, or are severely suppressed. 11. Disdain for Intellectuals and the Arts - Fascist nations tend to promote and tolerate open hostility to higher education, and academia. It is not uncommon for professors and other academics to be censored or even arrested. Free expression in the arts and letters is openly attacked. 12. Obsession with Crime and Punishment - Under fascist regimes, the police are given almost limitless power to enforce laws. The people are often willing to overlook police abuses and even forego civil liberties in the name of patriotism. There is often a national police force with virtually unlimited power in fascist nations. 13. Rampant Cronyism and Corruption - Fascist regimes almost always are governed by groups of friends and associates who appoint each other to government positions and use governmental power and authority to protect their friends from accountability. It is not uncommon in fascist regimes for national resources and even treasures to be appropriated or even outright stolen by government leaders. 14. Fraudulent Elections - Sometimes elections in fascist nations are a complete sham. Other times elections are manipulated by smear campaigns against or even assassination of opposition candidates, use of legislation to control voting numbers or political district boundaries, and manipulation of the media. Fascist nations also typically use their judiciaries to manipulate or control elections.
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bodhisatta said: the effects of his policies and how they will be enforced will lead in a direction towards fascist tendencies in our government, especially given our societal structure and population size.
at the end of the day it's bernie sanders supporters who are going to get that fucking trump guy elected. because sanders supporters are the least self sufficient and most under educated(on par with trump supporters though) and annoying.
Which one of these pops out at you when you think Bernie Sanders?
1. Powerful and Continuing Nationalism - Fascist regimes tend to make constant use of patriotic mottos, slogans, symbols, songs, and other paraphernalia. Flags are seen everywhere, as are flag symbols on clothing and in public displays.
 2. Disdain for the Recognition of Human Rights - Because of fear of enemies and the need for security, the people in fascist regimes are persuaded that human rights can be ignored in certain cases because of "need." The people tend to look the other way or even approve of torture, summary executions, assassinations, long incarcerations of prisoners, etc. one day you'll understand that 15 an hour federal minimum wage is actually quite racist as well as voting for the omibus crime act that put minorities in jail on felony charges for things like weed because of the 3 strike rule helping to make our country home to more incarcerated than china and india combined
3. Identification of Enemies/Scapegoats as a Unifying Cause - The people are rallied into a unifying patriotic frenzy over the need to eliminate a perceived common threat or foe: racial , ethnic or religious minorities; liberals; communists; socialists, terrorists, etc. those evil rich! b-b-b-b-illionairs!!! 4. Supremacy of the Military - Even when there are widespread domestic problems, the military is given a disproportionate amount of government funding, and the domestic agenda is neglected. Soldiers and military service are glamorized. you've seen his voting record right? 5. Rampant Sexism - The governments of fascist nations tend to be almost exclusively male-dominated. Under fascist regimes, traditional gender roles are made more rigid. Divorce, abortion and homosexuality are suppressed and the state is represented as the ultimate guardian of the family institution. 6. Controlled Mass Media - Sometimes to media is directly controlled by the government, but in other cases, the media is indirectly controlled by government regulation, or sympathetic media spokespeople and executives. Censorship, especially in war time, is very common. his supporters are educated through his own words, memes, and infographics. rather than their own research, his record that does not correspond with his stated principals don't come to light and when they do are scoffed off in the name of moral superiority 7. Obsession with National Security - Fear is used as a motivational tool by the government over the masses. see below 8. Religion and Government are Intertwined - Governments in fascist nations tend to use the most common religion in the nation as a tool to manipulate public opinion. Religious rhetoric and terminology is common from government leaders, even when the major tenets of the religion are diametrically opposed to the government's policies or actions.only if it is the most useful tool at the time 9. Corporate Power is Protected - The industrial and business aristocracy of a fascist nation often are the ones who put the government leaders into power, creating a mutually beneficial business/government relationship and power elite. increasing taxes always leads to this because bushiness need to overcome the new regulations and lobby for new protections to deal with the inefficiency(new tax codes) caused by government 10. Labor Power is Suppressed - Because the organizing power of labor is the only real threat to a fascist government, labor unions are either eliminated entirely, or are severely suppressed. doesn't happen until later on, but there's better ways to acomplish this 11. Disdain for Intellectuals and the Arts - Fascist nations tend to promote and tolerate open hostility to higher education, and academia. It is not uncommon for professors and other academics to be censored or even arrested. Free expression in the arts and letters is openly attacked. eventually as more SJWs will have their way and force will be used to silence people who cross imaginary new lines
12. Obsession with Crime and Punishment - Under fascist regimes, the police are given almost limitless power to enforce laws. The people are often willing to overlook police abuses and even forego civil liberties in the name of patriotism. There is often a national police force with virtually unlimited power in fascist nations. voting record directly relates to america being incarceration land 13. Rampant Cronyism and Corruption - Fascist regimes almost always are governed by groups of friends and associates who appoint each other to government positions and use governmental power and authority to protect their friends from accountability. It is not uncommon in fascist regimes for national resources and even treasures to be appropriated or even outright stolen by government leaders. effects of raising taxes 14. Fraudulent Elections - Sometimes elections in fascist nations are a complete sham. Other times elections are manipulated by smear campaigns against or even assassination of opposition candidates, use of legislation to control voting numbers or political district boundaries, and manipulation of the media. Fascist nations also typically use their judiciaries to manipulate or control elections.
In 1993, Bernie voted YEA on HR 2446 - Military Construction Fiscal Year 1994 Appropriations Bill, which provided $3.63 billion for military construction.
That same year, he also voted in favor of S J Res 45 - Authorization for Use of US Armed Forces in Somalia, which authorized President Bill Clinton to use US troops in Somalia for the purpose of providing logistical support to the United Nations peacekeeping force.
In 1994, Bernie voted in favor of HR 4453 - Military Construction FY95 Appropriations bill, which provided $2.52 billion for military construction.
To his credit, Bernie voted in 1995 for H Res 247 - Bosnia Troop Deployment Resolution, which expressed the intention of the United States to withhold the use of ground forces in the Republic of Bosnia and Herzegovina and to require approval from Congress before any ground forces are deployed. Yet, as later votes would show, Bernie's opposition to ground forces doesn't necessarily mean opposition to overall military intervention.
The following year, Bernie voted in favor of HR 3107 - Iran and Libya Sanctions Act of 1996, which "imposes sanctions on persons exporting certain goods or technology that would enhance Iran's ability to explore for, extract, refine, or transport by pipeline petroleum resources, and for other purposes."
In 1997, Bernie voted for HR 2159 - Foreign Operations FY98 Appropriations bill, which included: $3 billion for Israel, including $1.8 billion in military assistance and $1.2 billion in economic assistance; $2.12 billion for Egypt, including $1.3 billion in military assistance and $815 million in economic assistance; $770 million for former Soviet Republics; and $215 million for international narcotics control and law enforcement.
He also voted for HR 4059 - Military Construction FY99 Appropriations bill, which provided $2.82 billion for general military construction.
In 1998, Bernie's name was included as a YEA vote on HR 4655, the Iraqi Liberation Act of 1998, which expressed the sense of Congress that it should be the aim of the United States to remove Saddam Hussein from power. President George W. Bush later used the Iraqi Liberation Act to provide justification for military action for the 2003 invasion.
In 1999, Bernie voted for HR 2465, which provided $4 billion for military construction, and he voted for HR 3196, which provided: $2.16 billion for military and economic assistance to Israel; $760 million for military and economic assistance to Egypt; $535 million for Eastern European and the Baltic States, including $150 million for assistance to Kosovo; $300 million for military and economic assistance to Jordan; and $285 million for international narcotics control.
In 2001, Bernie supported HR 1954, which extended the Iran-Libya Sanctions Act of 1996.
Following the 9/11 attacks, Bernie voted in favor of H J Res 64 - Authorization for Use of Military Force, which allowed President Bush to use the United States Armed Forces against anyone involved with 9/11 and any nation that harbors these individuals.
It should be noted that this measure was passed by an overwhelming vote of 420-1. Even the passionately anti-interventionist Ron Paul supported HJ Res 64.
In 2002, Bernie voted against H J Res 114, which authorized President Bush to use military force against Iraq.
However, he would continue to support bloated military defense bills that would ultimately be used to sustain the war he allegedly disagreed with.
In 2003, Bernie supported HR 5010, which provided $355.1 billion in appropriations for the Defense Department for fiscal year 2003 - an increase of $37.5 billion from 2002 - as well as: $71.6 billion for procurement of aircraft, missiles, weapons, combat vehicles and shipbuilding; $7.4 billion for ballistic missile defense; and $58.4 million for foreign aid, which includes humanitarian assistance, foreign disaster relief and de-mining programs.
He also voted in favor of HR 2800 - Foreign Operations Appropriations, FY 2004 bill, which granted $1.8 billion in military and economic assistance to Egypt and $2.2 billion for Israeli military assistance.
In 2004, Bernie supported HR 4613, which allocated $25 billion for emergency defense spending for operations in Iraq and Afghanistan, and $77.4 billion for the procurement of new weapons.
In 2005, Sanders supported HR 2863 - Defense Department FY2006 Appropriations Bill, which provided $50 billion for ongoing operations in Iraq and Afghanistan.
In 2006, Bernie voted for HR 5631, which provided $70 billion for ongoing operations in Iraq and Afghanistan.
In 2007, he supported HR 1585 - National Defense Authorization Act for Fiscal Year 2008, which granted $187.14 billion for Iraq and Afghanistan operations.
In 2009, he voted in favor of HR 2647, which authorized $309 million for research and evaluation, procurement, or deployment of an alternative Missile Defense System in Europe, and also allowed the Secretary of Defense to increase the active-duty number for the US Army to a number greater than otherwise allowed by law up to the 2010 baseline plus 30,000 troops.
During the same year, he called closing the torturous gulag at Guantanamo a "complicated issue" and ultimately rejected a proposal to shut it down.
In 2011, Bernie co-sponsored S. Res. 85, which urged the UN Security Council to take action to protect civilians in Libya from attack, including the possible imposition of a no-fly zone over Libyan territory.
In 2014, Bernie came out in favor of levying economic sanctions (an act of war) against Russia: "The entire world has got to stand up to Putin," he said. "We've got to deal with sanctions."
Bernie also didn't object to having his name included - by unanimous consent - in S.498, which backed Israel's brutal, summer-long military assault against Gaza.
Some time after, Bernie was berated by his supporters at a town hall meeting for supporting Israel, an exchange that included Sanders screaming at the audience to "shut up" and threatening them with police force.
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people like this^ is why America is the biggest lot of in-bred retards. next to Saudi Arabia. oh and Christians. unthinking nutjobs.
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Re: Trump Will Beat Hillary In New York If He Is The Republican Nominee..... [Re: bodhisatta]
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A meme about a free tattoo? Ok
It doesn't look like MJ falls into the serious drug crime category. Omnibus Here
#3 I don't want to eliminate billionaires? Does anyone here?
So basically you're only referencing the fact he's voted to fund the military. Everything else is your imagination and opinion is it not?
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Ominous
Highlights: Bans the manufacture, sale, or possession of nineteen semiautomatic assault weapons and other firearms that carry similar characteristics. Increases the number of crimes subject to the death penalty. Requires a life sentence in prison to any individual who is convicted of committing their third serious violent or drug crime. States that juveniles, age 13 or older, may be tried as adults in court for committing a violent crime or possessing a firearm while committing a crime. Creates the Violent Crime Reduction Trust Fund to track transfers into the Fund, report requirements, and allocate amounts to the Fund. Increases sentences in federal sex crime cases for repeat offenders. Authorizes the Attorney General to make grants to local, state, and tribal governments for increased emphasis on reducing violent crimes against women. $9.85 billion for improving, developing, or expanding correctional facilities, creating alternatives of incarceration and probation for young offenders, and providing compensation to States that take criminal aliens into custody. $8.8 billion for States, local governments, and other entities to increase police presence, public safety, and cooperative efforts between law enforcement agencies and local citizens. $4.36 billion for crime prevention, including creating after school programs, reducing juvenile crime, recruiting more police officers, and establishing substance abuse programs. $2.59 billion for reducing violence towards women.
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Re: Trump Will Beat Hillary In New York If He Is The Republican Nominee..... [Re: Citizen X] 1
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Idk are people getting life in prison for getting caught selling pot 3 times?
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Which one of these pops out at you when you think Bernie Sanders?
1. Powerful and Continuing Nationalism - Fascist regimes tend to make constant use of patriotic mottos, slogans, symbols, songs, and other paraphernalia. Flags are seen everywhere, as are flag symbols on clothing and in public displays. 2. Disdain for the Recognition of Human Rights - Because of fear of enemies and the need for security, the people in fascist regimes are persuaded that human rights can be ignored in certain cases because of "need." The people tend to look the other way or even approve of torture, summary executions, assassinations, long incarcerations of prisoners, etc. 3. Identification of Enemies/Scapegoats as a Unifying Cause - The people are rallied into a unifying patriotic frenzy over the need to eliminate a perceived common threat or foe: racial , ethnic or religious minorities; liberals; communists; socialists, terrorists, etc. 4. Supremacy of the Military - Even when there are widespread domestic problems, the military is given a disproportionate amount of government funding, and the domestic agenda is neglected. Soldiers and military service are glamorized. 5. Rampant Sexism - The governments of fascist nations tend to be almost exclusively male-dominated. Under fascist regimes, traditional gender roles are made more rigid. Divorce, abortion and homosexuality are suppressed and the state is represented as the ultimate guardian of the family institution. 6. Controlled Mass Media - Sometimes to media is directly controlled by the government, but in other cases, the media is indirectly controlled by government regulation, or sympathetic media spokespeople and executives. Censorship, especially in war time, is very common. 7. Obsession with National Security - Fear is used as a motivational tool by the government over the masses. 8. Religion and Government are Intertwined - Governments in fascist nations tend to use the most common religion in the nation as a tool to manipulate public opinion. Religious rhetoric and terminology is common from government leaders, even when the major tenets of the religion are diametrically opposed to the government's policies or actions. 9. Corporate Power is Protected - The industrial and business aristocracy of a fascist nation often are the ones who put the government leaders into power, creating a mutually beneficial business/government relationship and power elite. 10. Labor Power is Suppressed - Because the organizing power of labor is the only real threat to a fascist government, labor unions are either eliminated entirely, or are severely suppressed. 11. Disdain for Intellectuals and the Arts - Fascist nations tend to promote and tolerate open hostility to higher education, and academia. It is not uncommon for professors and other academics to be censored or even arrested. Free expression in the arts and letters is openly attacked. 12. Obsession with Crime and Punishment - Under fascist regimes, the police are given almost limitless power to enforce laws. The people are often willing to overlook police abuses and even forego civil liberties in the name of patriotism. There is often a national police force with virtually unlimited power in fascist nations. 13. Rampant Cronyism and Corruption - Fascist regimes almost always are governed by groups of friends and associates who appoint each other to government positions and use governmental power and authority to protect their friends from accountability. It is not uncommon in fascist regimes for national resources and even treasures to be appropriated or even outright stolen by government leaders. 14. Fraudulent Elections - Sometimes elections in fascist nations are a complete sham. Other times elections are manipulated by smear campaigns against or even assassination of opposition candidates, use of legislation to control voting numbers or political district boundaries, and manipulation of the media. Fascist nations also typically use their judiciaries to manipulate or control elections.
Hmm, I think that fits the Teapublican agenda better....
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Re: Trump Will Beat Hillary In New York If He Is The Republican Nominee..... [Re: Le_Canard]
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Well me too of course, but try and get a conservative to see the correlation.
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Re: Trump Will Beat Hillary In New York If He Is The Republican Nominee..... [Re: Citizen X] 1
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I just have to chuckle when I see or hear people say that Bernie supporters are the least educated of the candidates. When actually the exact opposite is true. Trump has all the redneck, incestual, racist hate mongors. Most of Sen Sanders supporters are either in Uni or have in the past been in Uni. Hillary I'd say middle of the road, Cruz, well we all know about his people. The rest of the world is watching us like daytime TV laughing at the fact that there are people in the USA whom truly believe Mr. Trump could run the most militarized nation on the planet. This who are not laughing are frightened and preparing for the worst. Personally I really don't care, Hillary WILL win general election, it was decided long ago. The powers that be will never allow a DT in the White House. Perhaps an assassination attempt on him or something to redirect the sheep back to stupid water cooler gossip. Like I said, it's funny to me. Anyone who travels globally or has friends in Europe or Asia knows exactly what I mean. The first time I left for EU and UK in the late ninties everyone, for the most part, was very accommodating and pleasant. Within the past few years I am looked at like a strung out hooker with herpes in a chapel. After the kids graduate next year I see myself using my dual citizenship and going back to Norway for good.
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Re: Trump Will Beat Hillary In New York If He Is The Republican Nominee..... [Re: zappaisgod]
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Falcon91Wolvrn03 said: As was pointed out (for about the 10th time), minimum wage has been shown to have no impact on employment because workers today are so underpaid.
The fact that you have quoted the same debunked nonsense ten times does not make it any more accurate.
Empirical evidence was debunked? I can't wait for you to show us where someone debunked it. 
Apparently the empirical evidence that shows an increase in unemployment due to the minimum wage, which you cited, went over your head.
Apparently, you think a 40% increase to the minimum wage which will help about 40% of the country isn't worth a temporary increase of 0.3 in unemployment. 
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Falcon91Wolvrn03 said: Once again, I can't wait to see your evidence that that Berkeley is losing jobs from the minimum wage. 
Minimum wage goes up. They lay people off. Seems pretty evidentiary to me. If you have to cut the budget you have two choices. Cut pay rate or cut number of employees. Because cutting the pay rate is not an option they have to cut employees.
Those aren't the only options by a long shot. You can raise taxes, you can raise tuition, you can cut salaries of people at the top...
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40% of the country makes less than the real 1968 minimum wage, and I can assure you many of those people work their ass off.
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Re: Trump Will Beat Hillary In New York If He Is The Republican Nominee..... [Re: MickJamesons]
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MickJamesons said: I just have to chuckle when I see or hear people say that Bernie supporters are the least educated of the candidates. When actually the exact opposite is true. Trump has all the redneck, incestual, racist hate mongors. Most of Sen Sanders supporters are either in Uni or have in the past been in Uni.
Exactly.
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Re: Trump Will Beat Hillary In New York If He Is The Republican Nominee..... [Re: MickJamesons] 1
#23179799 - 05/02/16 11:38 AM (7 years, 8 months ago) |
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MickJamesons said: I just have to chuckle when I see or hear people say that Bernie supporters are the least educated of the candidates. When actually the exact opposite is true. Trump has all the redneck, incestual, racist hate mongors. Most of Sen Sanders supporters are either in Uni or have in the past been in Uni. Hillary I'd say middle of the road, Cruz, well we all know about his people. The rest of the world is watching us like daytime TV laughing at the fact that there are people in the USA whom truly believe Mr. Trump could run the most militarized nation on the planet. This who are not laughing are frightened and preparing for the worst. Personally I really don't care, Hillary WILL win general election, it was decided long ago. The powers that be will never allow a DT in the White House. Perhaps an assassination attempt on him or something to redirect the sheep back to stupid water cooler gossip. Like I said, it's funny to me. Anyone who travels globally or has friends in Europe or Asia knows exactly what I mean. The first time I left for EU and UK in the late ninties everyone, for the most part, was very accommodating and pleasant. Within the past few years I am looked at like a strung out hooker with herpes in a chapel. After the kids graduate next year I see myself using my dual citizenship and going back to Norway for good.
Both Trump's and Bernie supporters are the most educated. I know so many Trump supporters who are highly educated professionals/wealthy people.
Are some of Trump's supporters ignorant? Yes, same with Bernie's, but in general they are more informed than the other voters.
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Re: Trump Will Beat Hillary In New York If He Is The Republican Nominee..... [Re: qman]
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Are some of Trump's supporters ignorant? Yes, same with Bernie's, but in general they are more informed than the other voters.
Some ? How about allot ? Most trump supporters i know are really pissed about hillarys thing in Libya. And it's funny because trump fully supported it and probably would have done the same if he had been in her position.
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“I can’t believe what our country is doing,” said Trump on his video blog at the time. “Gaddafi in Libya is killing thousands of people, nobody knows how bad it is, and we’re sitting around we have soldiers all have the Middle East, and we’re not bringing them in to stop this horrible carnage and that’s what it is, it’s a carnage.”
“Now we should go in, we should stop this guy, which would be very easy and very quick. We could do it surgically, stop him from doing it, and save these lives. This is absolutely nuts. We don’t want to get involved and you’re gonna end up with something like you’ve never seen before,” he argued.
Ya , so how intelligent could you be if you vote for trump?
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Re: Trump Will Beat Hillary In New York If He Is The Republican Nominee..... [Re: psilynut]
#23180155 - 05/02/16 01:23 PM (7 years, 8 months ago) |
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Republicans=Democrats=the same Trump Bernie or Hillary like I say their only difference is what they talk about
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Re: Trump Will Beat Hillary In New York If He Is The Republican Nominee..... [Re: psilynut]
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More intelligent than voting for hillary, that's for damned sure.
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Re: Trump Will Beat Hillary In New York If He Is The Republican Nominee..... [Re: Shins]
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So nothing trump says matters? At least you know what you get if you vote for Hillary . You get balls , big balls that are going to roll right across trumps orange face when they debate.
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Re: Trump Will Beat Hillary In New York If He Is The Republican Nominee..... [Re: psilynut]
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Are some of Trump's supporters ignorant? Yes, same with Bernie's, but in general they are more informed than the other voters.
Some ? How about allot ? Most trump supporters i know are really pissed about hillarys thing in Libya. And it's funny because trump fully supported it and probably would have done the same if he had been in her position.
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“I can’t believe what our country is doing,” said Trump on his video blog at the time. “Gaddafi in Libya is killing thousands of people, nobody knows how bad it is, and we’re sitting around we have soldiers all have the Middle East, and we’re not bringing them in to stop this horrible carnage and that’s what it is, it’s a carnage.”
“Now we should go in, we should stop this guy, which would be very easy and very quick. We could do it surgically, stop him from doing it, and save these lives. This is absolutely nuts. We don’t want to get involved and you’re gonna end up with something like you’ve never seen before,” he argued.
Ya , so how intelligent could you be if you vote for trump?
Yet, please show us ONE politician that spoke against the invasion of Libya? Or called out the Peace Prize winning Obama for invading a sovereign nation?
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Re: Trump Will Beat Hillary In New York If He Is The Republican Nominee..... [Re: qman]
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What the fuck does that have to do with trump supporting the invasion and then pretending he somehow knew better? We are talking about trump not other politicians .
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Re: Trump Will Beat Hillary In New York If He Is The Republican Nominee..... [Re: Citizen X]
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The Ecstatic said: The only embarassment here is you and your ilk. The people who run this country (and world) have pretty easily convinced you that other poor people are the problem.
Good thing yall have Trump, though. If theres one thing that can solve the billionaires' stranglehold on disingenuous politicians, its making a disingenuous billionaire a politician.
Yall have it all figured out.

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Good thing yall have Trump, though. If theres one thing that can solve the billionaires' stranglehold on disingenuous politicians, its making a disingenuous billionaire a politician.
Yall have it all figured out.

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Re: Trump Will Beat Hillary In New York If He Is The Republican Nominee..... [Re: psilynut]
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psilynut said: What the fuck does that have to do with trump supporting the invasion and then pretending he somehow knew better? We are talking about trump not other politicians .
So his opinion as a civilian now disqualifies his opinion as a candidate? Flip flopping and politics go hand and hand, I don't understand your outrage the on this case.
What I always found funny was how Obama was never called out for his Libya invasion by liberals, wasn't he our Commander in Chief?
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Re: Trump Will Beat Hillary In New York If He Is The Republican Nominee..... [Re: psilynut]
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I have no problemms with Bernie. He might be a communist at heart, he doesn't know arithmetic, and he is clueless about economics, but aside from that he is OK.
As far as Trump? What a fucking Turd. Half of his campaign has been accusing Ted Cruz of doing EXACTLY WHAT TRUMP DOES HIMSELF> ESPECIALLY LYING>
But I guess now that John Boehner supports Trump, hes a conservative. 
And Trump supporters are brain dead or brain washed. They are like Obama supporters--
I watched Ted Cruz talking to a group of Trump supporters, and Cruz verbatim quoted what Trump had said in a debate--word for word. The supporters response? YOUR LYING TED.
Talk about a bunch of dumb fucking ignoramuses. No wonder Trump loves the stupid uneducated.
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ted cruz is by far the worst candidate in the race.
by far.
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Re: Trump Will Beat Hillary In New York If He Is The Republican Nominee..... [Re: The Ecstatic]
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so true. Cruz is fucking retarded. Hillary is a close second.
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Re: Trump Will Beat Hillary In New York If He Is The Republican Nominee..... [Re: starfire_xes]
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Trump gets more of the "educated" vote than Cruz does. Cruz supporters are really bottom of the barrel. Truly idiots
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Re: Trump Will Beat Hillary In New York If He Is The Republican Nominee..... [Re: The Ecstatic]
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by far.
The smartest moron of all time goes to Cruz.
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Re: Trump Will Beat Hillary In New York If He Is The Republican Nominee..... [Re: qman]
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he'snot that smart.
but snot enough to play up the Christian right-wing base.
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Re: Trump Will Beat Hillary In New York If He Is The Republican Nominee..... [Re: akira_akuma]
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yea, Cruz is anti-drugs, against states rights, and is totally with washington insiders, right? You fucking people listened to the propaganda that killed him.
He is the one who named the Insiders 'The Washington Cartel'
I hope we get fucking Hillary or Trump, either one. It's going to suck both ways.
Trump now is supported by John Boehner. Talk about a Turd Insider....
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Re: Trump Will Beat Hillary In New York If He Is The Republican Nominee..... [Re: starfire_xes]
#23180551 - 05/02/16 03:06 PM (7 years, 8 months ago) |
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starfire_xes said: yea, Cruz is anti-drugs, against states rights, and is totally with washington insiders, right? You fucking people listened to the propaganda that killed him.
He is the one who named the Insiders 'The Washington Cartel'
I hope we get fucking Hillary or Trump, either one. It's going to suck both ways.
Trump now is supported by John Boehner. Talk about a Turd Insider....
You do know that Cruz worked in the Bush Administration?
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Re: Trump Will Beat Hillary In New York If He Is The Republican Nominee..... [Re: starfire_xes]
#23180586 - 05/02/16 03:11 PM (7 years, 8 months ago) |
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starfire_xes said: yea, Cruz is anti-drugs, against states rights, and is totally with washington insiders, right? You fucking people listened to the propaganda that killed him.
it's a fucking religious whackjob, and there's already so much fervor from the christian right, to make amendments to the constitution and shit, to make the states less secular; and you're surprised?
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Re: Trump Will Beat Hillary In New York If He Is The Republican Nominee..... [Re: starfire_xes]
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The donald > lyin ted
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Cruz is exactly what I picture a scummy used car salesman to look/sound like.
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Re: Trump Will Beat Hillary In New York If He Is The Republican Nominee..... [Re: Shins]
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Trump is what I would picture a scummy used casino sales man to look like..... oh wai-
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Re: Trump Will Beat Hillary In New York If He Is The Republican Nominee..... [Re: starfire_xes]
#23181201 - 05/02/16 05:58 PM (7 years, 8 months ago) |
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starfire_xes said: Here you can compare the candidates on issues: https://www.bing.com/search?q=compare+the+candidates+positions
your link is showing hillary as drastically progressive.
wanna try again? or just swallow the hypocrisy?
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Re: Trump Will Beat Hillary In New York If He Is The Republican Nominee..... [Re: The Ecstatic]
#23184942 - 05/03/16 03:19 PM (7 years, 8 months ago) |
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I hope if Trump wins the nomination he creams Hillary. I really do. I will vote for him. But after seeing Trump supporters--when faced with absolute fact--when they are told the exact words that Trumps said--they say Ted Cruz is lying? What about that?
Watch Trump move his hands. Watch and listen to his voice. Compare this to Obama.
I've come to the conclusion that like Obama supporters, Trump supporters have been tranced by sophisticated NLP techniques, and are responding on emotion and hearing only what Trump wants them to hear. How else could someone completely ignore a Trump lie, and say it was Cruz lying?
But then again, we've seen the key to winning elections is NOT logic--its playing peoples emotions, and you got to hand it to Trump--he is a master manipulator, just like Obama.
Will he do whats right? I don't know. I hope so. I saw those Mexicans attacking a Trump rally, burning American Flags, waving mexican flags, and getting violent. Well, if they like mexico so fucking much they should go back, and don't let the immigration turnstile hit them in the ass.
Cruz isn't going to do anything unconstitutional if he is elected. He's even stated he would leave issues like religion, drugs, etc, up to the states--that the federal government has no business intervening.
The constitution won't get amended for religious laws, that is a fucking ridiculous argument. It's purposefully difficult to amend the constitution so stupid rules don't get imposed.
So moronic comments about 'CRUZ will turn the nation into a religious theocracy' are retarded. If anything, Trump will turn the US into a fascist shithole. But I'll still vote for him, lest we get the Queen of Wallstreet.
Aside from the whining about Cruz's religious BELIEFS, Cruz and Trump don't differ too much on issues.
Well, maybe immigration. Trump uses foreigners to staff his casinos, and Cruz said he will investigate and prosecute companies who use the H1B/H2B system to displace american workers. 
Oh sorry, that's a fact. Can't have any of those for you Trumpsters. You know there is a reason Trump said he likes the uneducated A.K.A. stupid
By the way, who has given money to hillary, chuck schumer, and nancy pelosi, and bribed insiders to get his way? Trump or Cruz? ]
Sorry, used logic again.
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Re: Trump Will Beat Hillary In New York If He Is The Republican Nominee..... [Re: starfire_xes]
#23184967 - 05/03/16 03:25 PM (7 years, 8 months ago) |
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ya, the aspect that Cruz would amend the constitution was always a joke, really; but still people are worried about the recent rise in religiosity at state levels, already, that this rhetoric just REALLY hurt him. that's my take.
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Re: Trump Will Beat Hillary In New York If He Is The Republican Nominee..... [Re: starfire_xes]
#23184983 - 05/03/16 03:28 PM (7 years, 8 months ago) |
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One more thing, I would not be surprised if Trump sweeps up from here. Mainly because he has had a couple billion dollars of free coverage on the Trump News Network (Fair and balanced, my ass) and the Fox Boys are slurping Trumps cock like it is a popsicle. And the continuous rhetoric of 'Oh Trump this Trump that; in a positive tone, couple with Well, 'Cruz sucks' which has been the underlying theme of much of the media, wears off on people, because face it--about 70% of the voting public are easily bated low-info's. We saw it with Obama and now we are seeing it with Trump.
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Re: Trump Will Beat Hillary In New York If He Is The Republican Nominee..... [Re: Falcon91Wolvrn03]
#23190897 - 05/05/16 01:33 AM (7 years, 8 months ago) |
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Apparently, you think a 40% increase to the minimum wage which will help about 40% of the country isn't worth a temporary increase of 0.3 in unemployment. 
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Falcon91Wolvrn03 said: Once again, I can't wait to see your evidence that that Berkeley is losing jobs from the minimum wage. 
Minimum wage goes up. They lay people off. Seems pretty evidentiary to me. If you have to cut the budget you have two choices. Cut pay rate or cut number of employees. Because cutting the pay rate is not an option they have to cut employees.
Those aren't the only options by a long shot. You can raise taxes, you can raise tuition, you can cut salaries of people at the top...
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zappaisgod said: If you are in the work force for more than 6 months and are still making minimum wage you are a fucking loser who doesn't deserve more.
40% of the country makes less than the real 1968 minimum wage, and I can assure you many of those people work their ass off.
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The minimum wage reached its (inflation-adjusted) historic high in 1968, when it was raised from $1.40 to $1.60 per hour. Adjusted for inflation using the BLS online inflation calculator that would come to $10.55 per hour in 2012 dollars.Jul 24, 2012
UC is already raising tuition http://news.berkeley.edu/2014/11/20/regents-approve-five-year-tuition-hike-plan-for-uc-students/
Raise taxes? Even more? California is losing business already because of their taxes.
http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2015/feb/17/editorial-businesses-flee-californias-high-taxes-a/
Helping 40% will hurt 100% in increased prices and another large cohort in total unemployment due to layoffs.
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Re: Trump Will Beat Hillary In New York If He Is The Republican Nominee..... [Re: zappaisgod]
#23190958 - 05/05/16 02:20 AM (7 years, 8 months ago) |
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zappaisgod said: California is losing business already because of their taxes.
http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2015/feb/17/editorial-businesses-flee-californias-high-taxes-a/
A few companies left California. So what? California is creating new jobs at a faster rate than Texas.

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zappaisgod said: Helping 40% will hurt 100% in increased prices and another large cohort in total unemployment due to layoffs.
Keep talking about them layoffs. They ain't happening in states with higher minimum wages.
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Re: Trump Will Beat Hillary In New York If He Is The Republican Nominee..... [Re: zappaisgod]
#23191099 - 05/05/16 04:48 AM (7 years, 8 months ago) |
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Apparently, you think a 40% increase to the minimum wage which will help about 40% of the country isn't worth a temporary increase of 0.3 in unemployment. 
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Falcon91Wolvrn03 said: Once again, I can't wait to see your evidence that that Berkeley is losing jobs from the minimum wage. 
Minimum wage goes up. They lay people off. Seems pretty evidentiary to me. If you have to cut the budget you have two choices. Cut pay rate or cut number of employees. Because cutting the pay rate is not an option they have to cut employees.
Those aren't the only options by a long shot. You can raise taxes, you can raise tuition, you can cut salaries of people at the top...
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zappaisgod said: If you are in the work force for more than 6 months and are still making minimum wage you are a fucking loser who doesn't deserve more.
40% of the country makes less than the real 1968 minimum wage, and I can assure you many of those people work their ass off.
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The minimum wage reached its (inflation-adjusted) historic high in 1968, when it was raised from $1.40 to $1.60 per hour. Adjusted for inflation using the BLS online inflation calculator that would come to $10.55 per hour in 2012 dollars.Jul 24, 2012
UC is already raising tuition http://news.berkeley.edu/2014/11/20/regents-approve-five-year-tuition-hike-plan-for-uc-students/
Raise taxes? Even more? California is losing business already because of their taxes.
http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2015/feb/17/editorial-businesses-flee-californias-high-taxes-a/
Helping 40% will hurt 100% in increased prices and another large cohort in total unemployment due to layoffs.
I have no doubt that California is losing business due to taxes. I live in Illinois; nothing more needs to be said. But Berkeley, will not suffer. They are not local, regional, or even national. They are world class. They will be, as always, rejecting a high number of really smart kids. A top 5 or 10 University in the world. Now California as a state is another matter. Besides the fiscal issues (which are huge), they for 60 years have been mostly seeing population increase in the part of the state that has a huge water shortage.
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Re: Trump Will Beat Hillary In New York If He Is The Republican Nominee..... [Re: Falcon91Wolvrn03]
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zappaisgod said: California is losing business already because of their taxes.
http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2015/feb/17/editorial-businesses-flee-californias-high-taxes-a/
A few companies left California. So what? California is creating new jobs at a faster rate than Texas.

Your chart ends 3 years ago Your link
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zappaisgod said: Helping 40% will hurt 100% in increased prices and another large cohort in total unemployment due to layoffs.
Keep talking about them layoffs. They ain't happening in states with higher minimum wages.
Yeah, they are. And then there is this.
http://money.cnn.com/2016/05/06/news/economy/april-jobs-report/
Putrid hiring numbers. Could it be because of the minimum wage threat?
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Re: Trump Will Beat Hillary In New York If He Is The Republican Nominee..... [Re: zappaisgod]
#23195712 - 05/06/16 01:46 PM (7 years, 8 months ago) |
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Could it be that threatening to blow up the economy is a tired tactic used by the elite in the face of progress time and time again?
Child labor laws killed jobs, too.
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Re: Trump Will Beat Hillary In New York If He Is The Republican Nominee..... [Re: The Ecstatic]
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Regardless of the political landscape there's 0 excuse for not being able to do well for yourself. There's nothing holding people down there's plenty of opportunities if you make it happen. The best job creator is society, workers make more work, make profits and growth happen.
You know what's fair? No fairness laws at all.
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Re: Trump Will Beat Hillary In New York If He Is The Republican Nominee..... [Re: bodhisatta]
#23196100 - 05/06/16 03:58 PM (7 years, 8 months ago) |
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bodhisatta said: Regardless of the political landscape there's 0 excuse for not being able to do well for yourself. There's nothing holding people down there's plenty of opportunities if you make it happen. The best job creator is society, workers make more work, make profits and growth happen.
You know what's fair? No fairness laws at all.
Go live in Somalia then, come back 10 years later and explain to me why you didnt successfully launch a Fortune 500 company there.
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Re: Trump Will Beat Hillary In New York If He Is The Republican Nominee..... [Re: The Ecstatic]
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Somalia the retards argument America isn't fucked enough yet. Even the homeless can drag themselves out of shit here still
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missing the point. there is no way to make a Fortune 500 company -- you'll be eaten alive.
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Re: Trump Will Beat Hillary In New York If He Is The Republican Nominee..... [Re: The Ecstatic]
#23203343 - 05/08/16 06:39 PM (7 years, 8 months ago) |
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The Ecstatic said: Could it be that threatening to blow up the economy is a tired tactic used by the elite in the face of progress time and time again?
Child labor laws killed jobs, too.
They did?
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