starfire_xes said:

Right, and that is going to occur at the same times that pigs fly.




Hillary had over 300,000 more votes than ALL THREE REPUBLICAN REPS COMBINED....combine that with 700,000 votes for Bernie....that is about 1.8 million votes for the D in New York compared to 800K for the R.....


AND TRUMP WILL WIN IT?  GIVE ME A FUCKING BREAK.

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The Ecstatic said:

qman, NY isnt turning red. Lets not even entertain the possibility.

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The irony is, Trump isn't even conservative.  He is whatever he needs to say to get the votes.  Remember how he was trying to quote scripture and shit and he got a bunch of evangelical votes.  He is the biggest fucking fraud in this election.

THIS:

In two interviews from yesterday and today Trump has said grown men should be allowed to use bathrooms with little girls, that the "wealthy" should be taxed more, that illegals should be let right back in and given Amnesty after they leave, the GOP platform on Abortion should be changed and he will not focus on the debt?

How about that Trumpsters?  There's your hero.

bodhisatta said:

no matter who is elected president your life will change 0% unless you make over 6 figures.

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Falcon91Wolvrn03 said:

bodhisatta said:

no matter who is elected president your life will change 0% unless you make over 6 figures.

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If minimum wage were increased from $7.25 to $15, a great many people's lives would change for the better.

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bodhisatta said:

If you think you need 15/hr to fix your life you need to work harder and not try to vote your way to better circumstances.

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Working harder for $7.25 isn't going to improve anyone's life except the business owner. 

bodhisatta said:

Besides federal minimum wage hikes are historically very racist policy once put into action it hurts niggers most. It hurts Batista's and hipster kids second most.

I'm secretly for a wage hike because I don't like lazy kids. And it will fuck them so hard

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zappaisgod said:

Falcon91Wolvrn03 said:

If minimum wage were increased from $7.25 to $15, a great many people's lives would change for the better.

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And a great many for the worse.

http://www.investors.com/politics/editorials/uc-berkeley-touts-15-minimum-wage-then-fires-hundreds-of-workers-after-it-passes/

The $15 minimum wage is actually a zero maximum wage for many people.

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bodhisatta said:

If you think you need 15/hr to fix your life you need to work harder and not try to vote your way to better circumstances.

Besides federal minimum wage hikes are historically very racist policy once put into action it hurts niggers most. It hurts Batista's and hipster kids second most.

I'm secretly for a wage hike because I don't like lazy kids. And it will fuck them so hard

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Quote:

Working harder for $7.25 isn't going to improve anyone's life except the business owner. 

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Quote:

"I am unemployed and want your money that you worked hard for, BUT YOU'RE THE GREEDY ONE"

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fuck off. i don't want your stinking money. idiots want money; got nothing else to live for.

Webster10 said:

America is literally the best country on Earth and I'd be severely disappointed to live anywhere else. Especially Canada, the land of pussies.

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Webster10 said:

America is literally the best country on Earth and I'd be severely disappointed to live anywhere else. Especially Canada, the land of pussies.

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akira_akuma said:

with the exception of civil rights for ALL people, as opposed to just conservative whites...yes. it was great. then the hippies (liberals) rose up because conservative chicken hawks were preying on blacks and other minorities. if it wasn't for that blatant idiocy, then it would have been perfect,...and if it wasn't for that blatant idiocy, it could have stayed perfect. but no...not America...the land of the chicken hawks.

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akira_akuma said:

LOL, yeah, that's true. except it's not. Canada/US = same amount of pussidom.

you cannot claim America is not pusillanimous to the extreme...just because there are some 'extreme' people like yourself (LOL) there are also those people here in Canada. remember when you frigging useless retards in the US let ISIS run amok, instead of going in to do anything to stop them, because the right-wing were too much of some dirty stinky pussies to go and fight? ya, sadly it's catching on. fucking filth buckets.

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BoldAsLove said:

Webster10 said:

America is literally the best country on Earth and I'd be severely disappointed to live anywhere else. Especially Canada, the land of pussies.

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Best country based on what metric?

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Webster10 said:

BoldAsLove said:

Webster10 said:

America is literally the best country on Earth and I'd be severely disappointed to live anywhere else. Especially Canada, the land of pussies.

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Best country based on what metric?

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Excellence

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Webster10 said:

And what the fuck did Canada do to combat ISIS? Way less than the "filth buckets" in the US, I'll tell you that. Canada is so much more pussy than the US, they're really not even comparable countries. And yes, America has declined, and it still is declining, rather rapidly under this current administration, IMO. But it's still a long shot ahead of the competition.

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Falcon91Wolvrn03 said:

zappaisgod said:

Falcon91Wolvrn03 said:

If minimum wage were increased from $7.25 to $15, a great many people's lives would change for the better.

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And a great many for the worse.

http://www.investors.com/politics/editorials/uc-berkeley-touts-15-minimum-wage-then-fires-hundreds-of-workers-after-it-passes/

The $15 minimum wage is actually a zero maximum wage for many people.

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As was pointed out in the previous post (for about the 10th time), minimum wage has been shown to have no impact on employment because workers today are so underpaid.

At UC Berkeley, departments have all been told to reduce their budgets by 10 percent.  THAT'S the reason for the job cuts.  The $15 minimum wage doesn't take effect until 2022.

Another nice swing and miss though.

http://www.sfgate.com/education/article/UC-Berkeley-to-eliminate-500-staff-jobs-7244049.php

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twighead said:

It's not going to be as cool as you might think!

They won't be able to do quirky little fast food worker tricks that we all love, like drawing pictures on your pizza box, or subduing the violent ghetto youth that so plague their establishments.

This is your future:

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zappaisgod said:

Falcon91Wolvrn03 said:

As was pointed out (for about the 10th time), minimum wage has been shown to have no impact on employment because workers today are so underpaid.

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The fact that you have quoted the same debunked nonsense ten times does not make it any more accurate.

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Empirical evidence was debunked?  I can't wait for you to show us where someone debunked it. 

zappaisgod said:

Falcon91Wolvrn03 said:

At UC Berkeley, departments have all been told to reduce their budgets by 10 percent.  THAT'S the reason for the job cuts.  The $15 minimum wage doesn't take effect until 2022.

Another nice swing and miss though.

http://www.sfgate.com/education/article/UC-Berkeley-to-eliminate-500-staff-jobs-7244049.php

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Your article is from 2 years after they pumped up the minimum wage and 1 year after the second tier of increases.  So, yeah, I do think that the wage increase causede a whole shit load of people to lose their jobs withmany many more to come.  I can't wait to see the automated fry cook and burger flipper.  Gonna be some super cool innovation there.

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Once again, I can't wait to see your evidence that that Berkeley is losing jobs from the minimum wage. 

Falcon91Wolvrn03 said:

zappaisgod said:

Falcon91Wolvrn03 said:

As was pointed out (for about the 10th time), minimum wage has been shown to have no impact on employment because workers today are so underpaid.

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The fact that you have quoted the same debunked nonsense ten times does not make it any more accurate.

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Empirical evidence was debunked?  I can't wait for you to show us where someone debunked it. 

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bodhisatta said:

if half of the people worked as hard as they "fight for 15" they would earn 15.

if you don't get a raise every 6-12 months, ask for one, if you don't get a performance review. fill out your resume and look elsewhere. or do you secretly know you suck fucking dick and are worthless and need the government to whip your ass for you because of "rich people, the NRA, republicans, racism"

what a bunch of whiny wieners. I would rather make less than 15 than look like one of those idiots with their 15/hr signs.

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zappaisgod said:

bodhisatta said:

if half of the people worked as hard as they "fight for 15" they would earn 15.

if you don't get a raise every 6-12 months, ask for one, if you don't get a performance review. fill out your resume and look elsewhere. or do you secretly know you suck fucking dick and are worthless and need the government to whip your ass for you because of "rich people, the NRA, republicans, racism"

what a bunch of whiny wieners. I would rather make less than 15 than look like one of those idiots with their 15/hr signs.

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Exactly right.  If you are in the work force for more than 6 months and are still making minimum wage you are a fucking loser who doesn't deserve more.

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The Ecstatic said:

The only embarassment here is you and your ilk. The people who run this country (and world) have pretty easily convinced you that other poor people are the problem.


Good thing yall have Trump, though. If theres one thing that can solve the billionaires' stranglehold on disingenuous politicians, its making a disingenuous billionaire a politician.

Yall have it all figured out.

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bodhisatta said:

the effects of his policies and how they will be enforced will lead in a direction towards fascist tendencies in our government, especially given our societal structure and population size.

at the end of the day it's bernie sanders supporters who are going to get that fucking trump guy elected. because sanders supporters are the least self sufficient and most under educated(on par with trump supporters though) and annoying.

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Citizen X said:

bodhisatta said:

the effects of his policies and how they will be enforced will lead in a direction towards fascist tendencies in our government, especially given our societal structure and population size.

at the end of the day it's bernie sanders supporters who are going to get that fucking trump guy elected. because sanders supporters are the least self sufficient and most under educated(on par with trump supporters though) and annoying.

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Which one of these pops out at you when you think Bernie Sanders?

1. Powerful and Continuing Nationalism - Fascist regimes tend to make constant use of patriotic mottos, slogans, symbols, songs, and other paraphernalia. Flags are seen everywhere, as are flag symbols on clothing and in public displays.


2. Disdain for the Recognition of Human Rights - Because of fear of enemies and the need for security, the people in fascist regimes are persuaded that human rights can be ignored in certain cases because of "need." The people tend to look the other way or even approve of torture, summary executions, assassinations, long incarcerations of prisoners, etc.
one day you'll understand that 15 an hour federal minimum wage is actually quite racist as well as voting for the omibus crime act that put minorities in jail on felony charges for things like weed because of the 3 strike rule helping to make our country home to more incarcerated than china and india combined


3. Identification of Enemies/Scapegoats as a Unifying Cause - The people are rallied into a unifying patriotic frenzy over the need to eliminate a perceived common threat or foe: racial , ethnic or religious minorities; liberals; communists; socialists, terrorists, etc.
those evil rich! b-b-b-b-illionairs!!!

4. Supremacy of the Military - Even when there are widespread
domestic problems, the military is given a disproportionate amount of government funding, and the domestic agenda is neglected. Soldiers and military service are glamorized.
you've seen his voting record right?

5. Rampant Sexism - The governments of fascist nations tend to be almost exclusively male-dominated. Under fascist regimes, traditional gender roles are made more rigid. Divorce, abortion and homosexuality are suppressed and the state is represented as the ultimate guardian of the family institution.

6. Controlled Mass Media - Sometimes to media is directly controlled by the government, but in other cases, the media is indirectly controlled by government regulation, or sympathetic media spokespeople and executives. Censorship, especially in war time, is very common.
his supporters are educated through his own words, memes, and infographics. rather than their own research, his record that does not correspond with his stated principals don't come to light and when they do are scoffed off in the name of moral superiority

7. Obsession with National Security - Fear is used as a motivational tool by the government over the masses.
see below

8. Religion and Government are Intertwined - Governments in fascist nations tend to use the most common religion in the nation as a tool to manipulate public opinion. Religious rhetoric and terminology is common from government leaders, even when the major tenets of the religion are diametrically opposed to the government's policies or actions.only if it is the most useful tool at the time

9. Corporate Power is Protected - The industrial and business aristocracy of a fascist nation often are the ones who put the government leaders into power, creating a mutually beneficial business/government relationship and power elite.
increasing taxes always leads to this because bushiness need to overcome the new regulations and lobby for new protections to deal with the inefficiency(new tax codes) caused by government

10. Labor Power is Suppressed - Because the organizing power of labor is the only real threat to a fascist government, labor unions are either eliminated entirely, or are severely suppressed.
doesn't happen until later on, but there's better ways to acomplish this

11. Disdain for Intellectuals and the Arts - Fascist nations tend to promote and tolerate open hostility to higher education, and academia. It is not uncommon for professors and other academics to be censored or even arrested. Free expression in the arts and letters is openly attacked.
eventually as more SJWs will have their way and force will be used to silence people who cross imaginary new lines


12. Obsession with Crime and Punishment - Under fascist regimes, the police are given almost limitless power to enforce laws. The people are often willing to overlook police abuses and even forego civil liberties in the name of patriotism. There is often a national police force with virtually unlimited power in fascist nations.
voting record directly relates to america being incarceration land

13. Rampant Cronyism and Corruption - Fascist regimes almost always are governed by groups of friends and associates who appoint each other to government positions and use governmental power and authority to protect their friends from accountability. It is not uncommon in fascist regimes for national resources and even treasures to be appropriated or even outright stolen by government leaders.
effects of raising taxes

14. Fraudulent Elections - Sometimes elections in fascist nations are a complete sham. Other times elections are manipulated by smear campaigns against or even assassination of opposition candidates, use of legislation to control voting numbers or political district boundaries, and manipulation of the media. Fascist nations also typically use their judiciaries to manipulate or control elections.

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akira_akuma said:

people like this^ is why America is the biggest lot of in-bred retards.

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Reported.

Citizen X said:

Which one of these pops out at you when you think Bernie Sanders?

1. Powerful and Continuing Nationalism - Fascist regimes tend to make constant use of patriotic mottos, slogans, symbols, songs, and other paraphernalia. Flags are seen everywhere, as are flag symbols on clothing and in public displays.

2. Disdain for the Recognition of Human Rights - Because of fear of enemies and the need for security, the people in fascist regimes are persuaded that human rights can be ignored in certain cases because of "need." The people tend to look the other way or even approve of torture, summary executions, assassinations, long incarcerations of prisoners, etc.

3. Identification of Enemies/Scapegoats as a Unifying Cause - The people are rallied into a unifying patriotic frenzy over the need to eliminate a perceived common threat or foe: racial , ethnic or religious minorities; liberals; communists; socialists, terrorists, etc.

4. Supremacy of the Military - Even when there are widespread
domestic problems, the military is given a disproportionate amount of government funding, and the domestic agenda is neglected. Soldiers and military service are glamorized.

5. Rampant Sexism - The governments of fascist nations tend to be almost exclusively male-dominated. Under fascist regimes, traditional gender roles are made more rigid. Divorce, abortion and homosexuality are suppressed and the state is represented as the ultimate guardian of the family institution.

6. Controlled Mass Media - Sometimes to media is directly controlled by the government, but in other cases, the media is indirectly controlled by government regulation, or sympathetic media spokespeople and executives. Censorship, especially in war time, is very common.

7. Obsession with National Security - Fear is used as a motivational tool by the government over the masses.

8. Religion and Government are Intertwined - Governments in fascist nations tend to use the most common religion in the nation as a tool to manipulate public opinion. Religious rhetoric and terminology is common from government leaders, even when the major tenets of the religion are diametrically opposed to the government's policies or actions.

9. Corporate Power is Protected - The industrial and business aristocracy of a fascist nation often are the ones who put the government leaders into power, creating a mutually beneficial business/government relationship and power elite.

10. Labor Power is Suppressed - Because the organizing power of labor is the only real threat to a fascist government, labor unions are either eliminated entirely, or are severely suppressed.

11. Disdain for Intellectuals and the Arts - Fascist nations tend to promote and tolerate open hostility to higher education, and academia. It is not uncommon for professors and other academics to be censored or even arrested. Free expression in the arts and letters is openly attacked.

12. Obsession with Crime and Punishment - Under fascist regimes, the police are given almost limitless power to enforce laws. The people are often willing to overlook police abuses and even forego civil liberties in the name of patriotism. There is often a national police force with virtually unlimited power in fascist nations.

13. Rampant Cronyism and Corruption - Fascist regimes almost always are governed by groups of friends and associates who appoint each other to government positions and use governmental power and authority to protect their friends from accountability. It is not uncommon in fascist regimes for national resources and even treasures to be appropriated or even outright stolen by government leaders.

14. Fraudulent Elections - Sometimes elections in fascist nations are a complete sham. Other times elections are manipulated by smear campaigns against or even assassination of opposition candidates, use of legislation to control voting numbers or political district boundaries, and manipulation of the media. Fascist nations also typically use their judiciaries to manipulate or control elections.

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