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Re: TRUMP 2020 [Re: dinosaurs]
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FoolOfElysium said:
And I'm online friends with a Jan 6ther. The vast majority of them were framed. He put out a whole video showing what he got arrested for and would still be rotting in a cell if not for Trump.

This is the case for well over 90% of them. They were scapegoats.



When you say they were framed and scapegoated what do you mean? Do you mean they weren’t physically there or that they were baited into being there and committing crimes?

Which angle makes them look the least moronic?

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Re: TRUMP 2020 [Re: dinosaurs]
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dinosaurs said:
FoolOfElysium said:
dinosaurs said:
FoolOfElysium said:
What bullshit. The *force* of my point lies behind the 2 billion+ dollars in property damage the riots caused.




funny how you bring this up over and over and never mention how the jan 6 party that totally-was-not-a-riot-or-insurrection cost the American taxpayers $2.7 billion dollars according to the US Government Accountability Office.

now on one hand, BLM protests were in response to decades of extra-judicial violence against minorities by agents of the state, whereas jan 6 was... well you can weave your own web of bullshit to explain jan 6 away...

Fool when you continually pull shit like this it makes people think that you're either an idiot or that you're intellectually dishonest.  I only mention it because I care :wink:



You're off by an entire comma. It was around two and a half million, not billion.

And I'm online friends with a Jan 6ther. The vast majority of them were framed. He put out a whole video showing what he got arrested for and would still be rotting in a cell if not for Trump.

This is the case for well over 90% of them. They were scapegoats.



According to the nonpartisan Government Accountability Office, the January 6 attack caused approximately $2.7 billion in total estimated costs to American taxpayers. page 12, paragraph 2, sentence 2

this figure is taken from page 1, paragraph 1, sentence 4 of this feb. 2023 GAO report

again you're proven to be full of shit.



You mean the 2.7 billion dallors based on the 1.9 billion dallors given for security upgrades and total cost of the prosecution of 100s of people thru fbi and DOJ.  Which the summer of love lacks in its cost finding.


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Re: TRUMP 2020 [Re: Bigbadwooof]
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Bigbadwooof said:
Envix said:
just saw this. America deserves everything bad that's coming to them for what they did to the middle east.



I didn't do ANYTHING to the middle east. My ma let a Kuwaiti dude impregnate her once, tho... the middle east did a number on her ahaha

You need to learn to separate the population from their imperialist government.



huh? i separate the people who support the imperialist government from the people who don't. i thought that was implied from my previous posts. i gotta learn to communicate better.


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Re: TRUMP 2020 [Re: Envix]
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In realty, these two dudes were playing with their guns on a makeshift firing range, and one of the bullets managed to hit some dude 1/4 mile away. They’re also US citizens. Pretty dark shit


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Re: TRUMP 2020 [Re: dinosaurs]
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dinosaurs said:
FoolOfElysium said:
dinosaurs said:
FoolOfElysium said:
What bullshit. The *force* of my point lies behind the 2 billion+ dollars in property damage the riots caused.




funny how you bring this up over and over and never mention how the jan 6 party that totally-was-not-a-riot-or-insurrection cost the American taxpayers $2.7 billion dollars according to the US Government Accountability Office.

now on one hand, BLM protests were in response to decades of extra-judicial violence against minorities by agents of the state, whereas jan 6 was... well you can weave your own web of bullshit to explain jan 6 away...

Fool when you continually pull shit like this it makes people think that you're either an idiot or that you're intellectually dishonest.  I only mention it because I care :wink:



You're off by an entire comma. It was around two and a half million, not billion.

And I'm online friends with a Jan 6ther. The vast majority of them were framed. He put out a whole video showing what he got arrested for and would still be rotting in a cell if not for Trump.

This is the case for well over 90% of them. They were scapegoats.



According to the nonpartisan Government Accountability Office, the January 6 attack caused approximately $2.7 billion in total estimated costs to American taxpayers. page 12, paragraph 2, sentence 2

this figure is taken from page 1, paragraph 1, sentence 4 of this feb. 2023 GAO report

again you're proven to be full of shit.



During the George Floyd riots there was 2 billion dollars in *direct* property damage.

The source of your claim, (which can be found here: https://www.gao.gov/assets/d23106625.pdf) makes the claim that the *cost* of Jan 6th  (not just property damage which was only 2.5 million), was supposedly in the billions.

If we were to use these same metrics in the George Floyd riots and count the deaths and injuries and the cost of of all of that, the funerals, the lawyers hired, the hospital bills, the jail time, the cops involved in the riots and their salaries, etc... etc... etc... (allocation of resources) NOW George Floyd riots are in hundreds of billions, if not trillions.

I know math is hard, but I'm here for you.

And besides, the FBI just admitted they had over 250 plants in the crowd that day. There was a lot more going on than meets the eye.


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Re: TRUMP 2020 [Re: FoolOfElysium] * 2
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The protests after George Floyd's murders were about injustice and government oppression.  Jan 6 was about being sore losers.  You really don't see a difference?


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Re: TRUMP 2020 [Re: Enlil]
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And the US police industry is probably $100B or more annually.

How many billions do we have to spend before we deserve to get mad when they fuck shit up?


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Re: TRUMP 2020 [Re: christopera]
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Taxpayers for the bill for billions in wrongful death suites, paid leave for cops who murder people, other court fees, etc....allnbecause of authoritarian right wing violence.


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Re: TRUMP 2020 [Re: Enlil]
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Enlil said:
The protests after George Floyd's murders were about injustice and government oppression.  Jan 6 was about being sore losers.  You really don't see a difference?



Quote:
A former coworker of George Floyd and former Minneapolis police officer Derek Chauvin has come forward to claim that the pair clashed while they worked together at a nightclub.



Quote:
The F...BI has reportedly admitted that it had 274 plainclothes agents present during the events of Jan. 6, 2021.



:shoedick:

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Re: TRUMP 2020 [Re: durian_2008]
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Quote:
Yogi Berra said:
You can observe a lot by just watching.




Just watching.

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Re: TRUMP 2020 [Re: Enlil]
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Enlil said:
The protests after George Floyd's murders were about injustice and government oppression.  Jan 6 was about being sore losers.  You really don't see a difference?



Neither were protests, both descended into riots.

The difference is, Trump wanted the national guard present at D.C. that day just in case and ran into snags that were of Pelosi and Mayor Bowser's creation. Both women were instrumental in making sure the national guard was NOT present that day.

And the FBI just informed congress yesterday that there were 275 "plainshirt" agents planted in the crowd. No major news network I can find has covered this story yet. Wonder why?

Don't count your chickens on Jan 6th yet. Ma' boy James Grant was one of many that was framed that day.


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Re: TRUMP 2020 [Re: FoolOfElysium]
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yep, exactly what I expected from you.

you just twist and worm and bullshit however you need to in order to deny reality and push your manufactured narrative.  peak cultist behavior.

we are supposed to be upset about a $2 billion hit to insurance companies but make some exception for $2.7 billion in direct costs to taxpayers?  you lack intellectual consistency because you're compromised by cultism.

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Re: TRUMP 2020 [Re: dinosaurs]
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As Newsom and Trump both want to pass free speech restrictions, on social media, the establishment, here, actually won't honor requests to remove your account.

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Re: TRUMP 2020 [Re: dinosaurs]
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Sick burn. It seems sooner or later after I finally decimate your arguments you always retreat back to the "got nothing left to argue so I'm just gonna throw shit around the room" tactic. Too bad theropods have such stubby arms. Us apes are far superior at shit-slinging, too.


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Re: TRUMP 2020 [Re: FoolOfElysium]
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FoolOfElysium said:
And the FBI just informed congress yesterday that there were 275 "plainshirt" agents planted in the crowd.



that is purely speculation based on some 'reporting' from the blaze founded by glenn beck.

more bullshit.

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Re: TRUMP 2020 [Re: FoolOfElysium]
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FoolOfElysium said:
Ma' boy James Grant was one of many that was framed that day.





Quote:
James Tate Grant, a 31-year-old Cary resident, and three other men who also were sentenced on Thursday led the first breach of the restricted Capitol grounds and the initial attack on U.S. Capitol Police officers

Read more at: https://www.charlotteobserver.com/news/politics-government/article292835919.html#storylink=cpy



:haha:
nothing like being caught on film doing something and still claim set up. what a bunch of losers.

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Re: TRUMP 2020 [Re: mushboy]
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mushboy said:
FoolOfElysium said:
Ma' boy James Grant was one of many that was framed that day.





Quote:
James Tate Grant, a 31-year-old Cary resident, and three other men who also were sentenced on Thursday led the first breach of the restricted Capitol grounds and the initial attack on U.S. Capitol Police officers

Read more at: https://www.charlotteobserver.com/news/politics-government/article292835919.html#storylink=cpy



:haha:
nothing like being caught on film doing something and still claim set up. what a bunch of losers.



He never touched anyone aggressive and has video proof from more than one angle. I've seen the videos. I've talked to him. This is not a debate. I know for a fact he and many others were framed.


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Re: TRUMP 2020 [Re: FoolOfElysium] * 1
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god your gullible.

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Re: TRUMP 2020 [Re: FoolOfElysium]
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FoolOfElysium said:
Enlil said:
The protests after George Floyd's murders were about injustice and government oppression.  Jan 6 was about being sore losers.  You really don't see a difference?



Neither were protests, both descended into riots.

The difference is, Trump wanted the national guard present at D.C. that day just in case and ran into snags that were of Pelosi and Mayor Bowser's creation. Both women were instrumental in making sure the national guard was NOT present that day.

And the FBI just informed congress yesterday that there were 275 "plainshirt" agents planted in the crowd. No major news network I can find has covered this story yet. Wonder why?

Don't count your chickens on Jan 6th yet. Ma' boy James Grant was one of many that was framed that day.



Framing yourself is being guilty with extra steps.


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Re: TRUMP 2020 [Re: christopera]
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why did his dumbass plead guilty?

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