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Re: Official Copelandia/Panaeolus Thread [Re: Shrimps] * 4
    #28159926 -

Bispo Invaders strike again.

I don't know wtf is going on but I keep having Bispos show up when I think I'm growing something else. Adas did you curse me? lol. This was supposed to be a Semp tray from a clone culture (my best semp clone) I've been running for many months now. I'm guessing I transposed some labels during labeling time at the LC stage - I know I have the vial right. l

Anyway, this was supposed to be a casing test. I have half of one kind of casing and half of another kind of casing on this tray. Seems like these bispos like the higher pH casing. Also noteworthy, since these were supposed to be semps, they are being grown on straight coir. No straw, manure, etc. Just millet on coir. I'm shocked they are growing so well. I mean, the flush so far is nothing to write home about but I would not have expected this good on pure coir. They still have a long ways to go though.



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Re: Official Copelandia/Panaeolus Thread [Re: Hindsight] * 1
    #28159932 -

Already looking really good for just coir with caps of that size and all.

Nice.


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Re: Official Copelandia/Panaeolus Thread [Re: Baba Yaga] * 2
    #28159972 -

YEAH BUDDY! Finally a pure coir Pan grow! I suspected it could be done. I guess Bisporus is much more "woodloving" than the others, but still. What an amazing result due to culture mixup! Also, interesting that it likes the high pH casing more.

Pro tip: Always smell your myc right after shaking when you're about to spawn it. It should warn you against any potential mislabel.


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Re: Official Copelandia/Panaeolus Thread [Re: Adas] * 2
    #28159980 -

I managed it guys, almost

passive pans, fruiting okay enoough in a tub

aborting now

3-4 of them felt extremely weak

should i just grab clone material and east the rest?



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Re: Official Copelandia/Panaeolus Thread [Re: smalltalk_canceled] * 2
    #28159983 -

NecD in passive fae shoebox, Coir/verm only sub. Only a psuedo coir casing.





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Re: Official Copelandia/Panaeolus Thread [Re: smalltalk_canceled]
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smalltalk_canceled said:
I managed it guys, almost

passive pans, fruiting okay enoough in a tub

aborting now

3-4 of them felt extremely weak

should i just grab clone material and east the rest?





Congrats to your success. Definitely clone some. If they have fruited under these conditions then they might be doing well if you improve the environment. Looks like they could have done with some more FAE.


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Re: Official Copelandia/Panaeolus Thread [Re: smalltalk_canceled] * 1
    #28159996 -

smalltalk_canceled said:
I managed it guys, almost

passive pans, fruiting okay enoough in a tub

aborting now

3-4 of them felt extremely weak

should i just grab clone material and east the rest?




That hardly even looks like Pans to me. You sure?


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Re: Official Copelandia/Panaeolus Thread [Re: Baba Yaga]
    #28159998 -

Tub had no holes, they were left alone for weeks, there was dry winter air, there were no bottom water, no watering whatsover,

and they were attacked by fungus gnats the entire time


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Re: Official Copelandia/Panaeolus Thread [Re: Adas] * 5
    #28159999 -

Adas said:
[...] I guess Bisporus is much more "woodloving" than the others [...]



That was my thought as well when seeing the size of the caps.

This is a 100% coir grow with cambodginiensis:



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Re: Official Copelandia/Panaeolus Thread [Re: smalltalk_canceled]
    #28160024 -

Dont start this shit again guys
oh my fucking god

okay one last mystery before im off I guess

what "pan" did i fruit here?



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Re: Official Copelandia/Panaeolus Thread [Re: smalltalk_canceled] * 2
    #28160030 -

Psilocybe semperviva:laugh2:


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Re: Official Copelandia/Panaeolus Thread [Re: SirPsycho]
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Well they did stand in the corner where i left all the subtrops 2 months ago, but another figment memory says i could also have left pans ther and god knows what else im gowing

but to me, the look of them is a HARD NO to subtrops/semperviva

see he caps, also what looks to be like a veil in one picture?

knowing how smart you guys are, subtrops/semper is a joke suggestion.

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I'll leave this final one with you, and to ensure im gone, ill be self banning for 120 days now

not even gonna have shroomery on my "normal" mobil anymore

au revoir


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Re: Official Copelandia/Panaeolus Thread [Re: smalltalk_canceled]
    #28160126 -

Hey guys!

As my username implies, I’m an old fart that’s just getting started with pan cyans.

I’ve learned a ton from this thread, so thank you to all who’ve contributed. Now it’s time to put this education into action.

I’m curious why the mycelium in these two jars are vastly different even though they’re both pan cyans. The jar on the left is BVI, the one on the right is Estero.

From your experience, is one better (healthier, stronger, etc) than the other, or just different?


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Re: Official Copelandia/Panaeolus Thread [Re: smalltalk_canceled]
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smalltalk_canceled said:
Well they did stand in the corner where i left all the subtrops 2 months ago, but another figment memory says i could also have left pans ther and god knows what else im gowing

but to me, the look of them is a HARD NO to subtrops/semperviva

see he caps, also what looks to be like a veil in one picture?

knowing how smart you guys are, subtrops/semper is a joke suggestion.

-

I'll leave this final one with you, and to ensure im gone, ill be self banning for 120 days now

not even gonna have shroomery on my "normal" mobil anymore

au revoir




Take care brother.
:burtbye:


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Re: Official Copelandia/Panaeolus Thread [Re: smalltalk_canceled]
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smalltalk_canceled said:
Well they did stand in the corner where i left all the subtrops 2 months ago, but another figment memory says i could also have left pans ther and god knows what else im gowing

but to me, the look of them is a HARD NO to subtrops/semperviva

see he caps, also what looks to be like a veil in one picture?

knowing how smart you guys are, subtrops/semper is a joke suggestion.

-

I'll leave this final one with you, and to ensure im gone, ill be self banning for 120 days now

not even gonna have shroomery on my "normal" mobil anymore

au revoir


I agree the caps look like some Papuana grows I've seen. Everything else screams Subtrops tho.


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Growing Panaeolus bisporus - The Low-Tech approach
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My First Panaeolus Cyanescens Grow!
Psilocybe azurescens photo compilation 2020
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Re: Official Copelandia/Panaeolus Thread [Re: smalltalk_canceled] * 1
    #28160143 -

smalltalk_canceled said:
Well they did stand in the corner where i left all the subtrops 2 months ago, but another figment memory says i could also have left pans ther and god knows what else im gowing

but to me, the look of them is a HARD NO to subtrops/semperviva

see he caps, also what looks to be like a veil in one picture?

knowing how smart you guys are, subtrops/semper is a joke suggestion.

-

I'll leave this final one with you, and to ensure im gone, ill be self banning for 120 days now

not even gonna have shroomery on my "normal" mobil anymore

au revoir


Ok ok

Ps mexicana



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Re: Official Copelandia/Panaeolus Thread [Re: old_fart_out_west]
    #28160157 -

old_fart_out_west said:
Hey guys!

As my username implies, I’m an old fart that’s just getting started with pan cyans.

I’ve learned a ton from this thread, so thank you to all who’ve contributed. Now it’s time to put this education into action.

I’m curious why the mycelium in these two jars are vastly different even though they’re both pan cyans. The jar on the left is BVI, the one on the right is Estero.

From your experience, is one better (healthier, stronger, etc) than the other, or just different?





Welcome to the shroom club!

This can have multiple reasons

  • different varieties can have different growth expression
  • one jar has germinated earlier and is simply further along
  • assuming this is spore inoculation to grain it could be the case that contamination from the syringe found it's way into a jar
  • contamination got in through non sterile technique or through a faulty or insufficient filter
  • difference in gas exchange where one jar is getting more than the other
  • contamination due to insufficient sterilization
  • etc, etc, etc,



These are just a few points but you should get that without more information from your side it is virtually impossible to tell why this happens and if this is reason for concern.

So, how did you get there?...and don't forget to include all the dirty details....


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Re: Official Copelandia/Panaeolus Thread [Re: Baba Yaga]
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I’ll get better at providing more details — thank you for the nudge!

Confirming I inoculated the grain jars from spore syringes, both at the same time. Did this using the open oven method since I don’t have a flow hood or still air box (but I’ll be making one soon). Both jars were kept in a warm cupboard next to each other.

From what I’ve read on GordoTek’s site, Estero is pretty fast. So fingers crossed this is what’s causing the difference, versus a contaminated BVI.

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Re: Official Copelandia/Panaeolus Thread [Re: Baba Yaga]
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Baba Yaga said:
Just had a read through the last pages of zifozonke's OP about these. So interesting and curious to find out what makes this species thrive.


Alan Rockefeller said:
Here is a Panaeolus phylogenetic tree I made, with the sequence of this mystery Panaeolus highlighted with a red dot.



I see that it's close to a few Panaeolus bisporus sequences - I wonder if it has two spored basidia.

I agree that it's either a new species or a species that was described but not sequenced.



ouuuuuuh :popcorn:

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Re: Official Copelandia/Panaeolus Thread [Re: mykophil] * 5
    #28160864 -

The mystery of the Mystery SA pans continues.

The casing was slowly starting to look too wet over the course of a few days and I couldn't dry up my tent due to other species I have growing in there, so I took it out and put it on the shelf with an upside down lid on it to allow it to dry up some. Left it out about 24 hours. When the casing looked good (very moist but not wet-wet), I put it back in the tent. ~48 hours or so later, mycelium has started coming up through much more of the casing and I'm now getting pins away from the edges. I can't say for sure that the drying cycle triggered this, or if it was just time for this to happen and it would have happened anyway, but I doubt it is the latter since this tray has been in the tent a while - long enough for all the edge fruits to grow and mature. I also pulled off a chunk of casing from the center of the tub as a test just to see if I'd get pins there faster than on the cased areas. Would have been better to leave the casing off a part of the tub @ spawn time but I had no reason then to think these might not like to be cased.









@Smalltalk, don't feel bad about mis-IDing. Didn't you see my post on this very page about my "semps" coming up as Bispos? It's easy to mislabel things. I consider myself very meticulous but it happens to me too. In fact, it has happened to me like 3 or 4 times in as many months. For whatever reasons, it's always Bispos with me.


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