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Re: TRUMP 2020 [Re: koods]
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koods said:
No you don’t. You are constantly being provided with evidence that refutes your various claims but you have an agenda and a worldview that is immune to facts and truth. If you don’t want to believe something, you simply won’t believe it.

Your self perception is 180 degrees away from the way most of us see you.



Everytime I ask you for a source for your claims, I'm met with silence (just do a search for "Source or make believe" from me to you and see how many times you provided a source.  I think it's about once out of over 100.


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Re: TRUMP 2020 [Re: Falcon91Wolvrn03] * 1
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Falcon91Wolvrn03 said:
Edit:  Or better still, pick which of the above you think has the most evidence and we can discuss that.



This is a pro level setup against a "laundry list" argument. Nice.

EDIT: Genuine praise, not sarcasm

Edited by Metoo (07/01/20 02:00 PM)

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Re: TRUMP 2020 [Re: Metoo]
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Good to see that, for once, Putin is actually helping the US to achieve its goals in Afghanistan (withdrawal)

https://edition.cnn.com/2020/07/01/politics/russia-taliban-dod-report/index.html

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Re: TRUMP 2020 [Re: Metoo]
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Metoo said:
This is a pro level setup against a "laundry list" argument. Nice.

EDIT: Genuine praise, not sarcasm



Thanks.  :thumbup:

I also respect your style of argument, and if you pay attention to your "Vote up"s, you've seen that I've given you quite a few, even though I know we've disagreed on things.


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I am in a minority on the shroomery, as I frequently defend the opposing side when they have a point about something or when my side make believes something about them.  I also attack my side if I think they're wrong.  People here get very confused by that and think it means I prefer the other side.

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Re: TRUMP 2020 [Re: Falcon91Wolvrn03]
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Cheers.
Just a thought - it would be a good scoop to hand out MAGA face masks at Mt Rushmore.

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Re: TRUMP 2020 [Re: Metoo]
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Metoo said:
Good to see that, for once, Putin is actually helping the US to achieve its goals in Afghanistan (withdrawal)

https://edition.cnn.com/2020/07/01/politics/russia-taliban-dod-report/index.html



Good article.  Here's an excerpt:
Quote:
Pompeo defends handling of Russia bounty intelligence

Secretary of State Mike Pompeo defended the administration's handling of the intelligence concerning Russia's offering of bounties to Afghan militants for killing American military personnel Wednesday, saying that the US "responded in precisely the correct way."

We responded in precisely the correct way with respect to making sure that our forces were postured appropriately, that they were aware of the level of the threat, the credibility of the threat, and that we were there," Pompeo said at a press conference at the State Department.

Multiple administration officials have claimed that President Donald Trump was not briefed on intelligence about the bounty program because it was unverified.



That's a great strategy - be ready just in case it's later verified.


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Re: TRUMP 2020 [Re: Metoo]
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Metoo said:
Cheers.
Just a thought - it would be a good scoop to hand out MAGA face masks at Mt Rushmore.



I actually DON'T support Trump (see my signature).  :smirk:


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Re: TRUMP 2020 [Re: Falcon91Wolvrn03] * 1
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I liked Trump's non-PC style but he is a shit crisis time leader. Much of the covid drama in the US is a consequence of our individualism fetish and was inevitable but Trump picked the wrong PR strategy and is now stuck with it, looking more and more stupid by the day.

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Re: TRUMP 2020 [Re: Falcon91Wolvrn03] * 1
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Falcon91Wolvrn03 said:
No, I'm pro truth.  I deny anything that is a make believe story



Trump's as unlikable as any politician in memory.
As much as it shit's me to hear him talk I'd rather suffer listening to him than see him ousted because of some bullshit cooked up story.

That's not how things should work, doesn't matter who it is.

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Re: TRUMP 2020 [Re: Enlil]
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Enlil said:
You deny the Skirpal poisoning.  You deny the Syrian chemical attack.  You deny Russian election interference.



While we're waiting for Enlil to decide which of these has the most evidence, here's something for everyone else to reread.


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Re: TRUMP 2020 [Re: Falcon91Wolvrn03] * 3
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Giuliani sharp as ever


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Re: TRUMP 2020 [Re: Metoo]
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:noargument:


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Re: TRUMP 2020 [Re: Metoo]
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In view of the recent developments have to update my predictions:
Metoo said:
Here is what I am predicting the world to look like in January 2021:

1. President elect Joe Biden Kamala Harris

2. The US virus situation still out of control, with 1-10k over 10k new cases a day and no effective federal level response

3. BLM protest still simmering but no fully blown civil unrest

4. Expose/cancel/dox operation in full swing on social media - like a metoo on steroids but covering all PC angles

5. The US global influence greatly diminished as a result of internal turmoil, China filling in the void

6. China moving to assert more control over Taiwan - economic warfare, travel restrictions, pressure on all 3rd parties to cut Taiwan loose

7. China taking control over the Paracels and Spratlys - harassing maritime trade, imposing no-fly zones, chasing other claimants navies away etc

8. Europe clueless as usual, the EU on its last legs, China expoiting the divisions

No signature bets but feel free to post your predictions



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Re: TRUMP 2020 [Re: Metoo]
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Re: TRUMP 2020 [Re: Metoo]
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Metoo said:
I liked Trump's non-PC style but he is a shit crisis time leader. Much of the covid drama in the US is a consequence of our individualism fetish and was inevitable but Trump picked the wrong PR strategy and is now stuck with it, looking more and more stupid by the day.



Some citizens want to be pampered during a crisis.          I don't need that trait in a leader.

Trump is who he is. Over 3 years into his term, some people are still angry he won't change!

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Re: TRUMP 2020 [Re: RJ Tubs 202] * 1
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Just under 53,000 new cases on Wednesday. Suddenly Trump is pro-mask.

Can anyone doubt that a substantial piece of our current problems were directly caused by him?


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"The Rolling Stones will break up over Brian Jones' dead body"    John Lennon

I don't want no commies in my car. No Christians either.

Simulacrum
The truth which conceals that there is none

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Re: TRUMP 2020 [Re: Brian Jones]
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I think what you are describing is indirect causation - he did not promote face masks and others did not wear them. More disapointingly, his general tune was consistently wrong. First it was only 15 cases so no big deal, then a beautiful reopening, then only few embers. I get being positive  to inspire optimism but he made people take things lightly for which he will pay politically.

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Re: TRUMP 2020 [Re: Metoo]
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I wouldn’t say his supporters took things lightly they protested with guns in their hands , remember ?
    They were very serious about ignoring the problem .


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Re: TRUMP 2020 [Re: Metoo]
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He needed to lead by example. He thought wearing a mask gave the appearance of weakness. He hadn't met with Fauci in weeks. He thought we were on the road to fast recovery. He made a very bad bet.

Many Republicans are begging him to be less confrontational. It's doubtful he is even capable of doing that, and it's too late now anyway.


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"The Rolling Stones will break up over Brian Jones' dead body"    John Lennon

I don't want no commies in my car. No Christians either.

Simulacrum
The truth which conceals that there is none

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Re: TRUMP 2020 [Re: Brian Jones]
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He says he wrests a mask in private. That’s not how it works 🤦‍♂️


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