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Unfolding Nature Shop: Unfolding Nature: Being in the Implicate Order

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Re: The Unenlightened Fool [Re: dustinthewind13]
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I would suggest checking out Noam Chomsky's recent book "Power Systems." He details American political doublespeak, starting with the Vietnam War. Many of his sources are journal articles that were pulled after they upset a few too many people.


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Re: The Unenlightened Fool [Re: Penelope_Tree]
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if anyone has to try and convince you it means to me it will be a wasted effort.

I cannot fathom why there is such a haughty (pull face of disdain) view about videos. Videos contain images, audio of people talking, quotes, documents are shown etc etc. It is an evolution OF info, and is a big part of the internet experience. If you cannot be bothered learning from them it is no surprise to me you have to even ask this question with tongue in cheek.

Edited by zzripz (06/17/13 12:06 PM)

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Re: The Unenlightened Fool [Re: Penelope_Tree]
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Penelope_Tree said:
I would suggest checking out Noam Chomsky's recent book "Power Systems." He details American political doublespeak, starting with the Vietnam War. Many of his sources are journal articles that were pulled after they upset a few too many people.


Chomsky is good in small doses

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Re: The Unenlightened Fool [Re: zzripz]
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I'm guessing you didn't mean to reply to me in this thread either. You want me to make a video showing how to properly use the reply function?


I think, in general, why videos as a source are generally not accepted is because a video can contain way more info than is needed to answer the question. So, if you could specify the relevant time in the video so we didn't have to watch a 2.5 hour documentary just to scrutinize a piece of evidence, I think it would be more acceptable. Its like citing an entire book in an academic article - that wouldn't fly. I think its also bad when the poster says, "just watch the video," without providing an overview and synopsis of why the vid is relevant, as well as what it specifically is viewers should note.


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Re: The Unenlightened Fool [Re: Penelope_Tree]
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bingo


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"Don't believe everything you think". -Anom.

" All that lives was born to die"-Anom.

With much wisdom comes much sorrow,
The more knowledge, the more grief.
Ecclesiastes circa 350 BC

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Re: The Unenlightened Fool [Re: Penelope_Tree]
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Penelope_Tree said:
I'm guessing you didn't mean to reply to me in this thread either. You want me to make a video showing how to properly use the reply function?


I think, in general, why videos as a source are generally not accepted is because a video can contain way more info than is needed to answer the question. So, if you could specify the relevant time in the video so we didn't have to watch a 2.5 hour documentary just to scrutinize a piece of evidence, I think it would be more acceptable. Its like citing an entire book in an academic article - that wouldn't fly. I think its also bad when the poster says, "just watch the video," without providing an overview and synopsis of why the vid is relevant, as well as what it specifically is viewers should note.


LOL, this is becoming a habit isn't it. I swore I clicked the correct reply button. Actually the software at this site is acting weird for ages. I have got a  flashing pm notice even though I have read it. So I am assuming the problem MAY be theshroomerys--we will see.

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Re: The Unenlightened Fool [Re: zzripz]
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I swore I clicked the correct reply button.

You have told me the exact same thing before.

:strokebeard:


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Re: The Unenlightened Fool [Re: dustinthewind13]
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dustinthewind13 said:
Nice. Thanks. I'll get back to you after reading and watching all of this. Don't have much time right now, but when I do I might turn into an enlightened fool. :courtjester:

Oh and people. Yes, I do accept TED videos. :lol:



so, are you enlightened yet? :smirk:


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Re: The Unenlightened Fool [Re: Kickle]
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Kickle said:
dustinthewind13 said:
Nice. Thanks. I'll get back to you after reading and watching all of this. Don't have much time right now, but when I do I might turn into an enlightened fool. :courtjester:

Oh and people. Yes, I do accept TED videos. :lol:



so, are you enlightened yet? :smirk:


Nope. Haven't gotten to reading everything yet or watching the video. Will do soon though. :grin:


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"It is the peculiar quality of a fool to perceive the faults of others and forget his own." - Marcus Tullius Cicero

"A room without books is like a body without a soul."  - Marcus Tullius Cicero

"Do not bite at the bait of pleasure, till you know there is no hook beneath it." -Thomas Jefferson

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Re: The Unenlightened Fool [Re: dustinthewind13]
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quit fooling around
err.. :laugh:


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Re: The Unenlightened Fool [Re: dustinthewind13]
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What about Ted Gunderson?
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ted_Gunderson

Ted Gunderson was born in Colorado Springs. He graduated from the University of Nebraska in 1950. Gunderson joined the Federal Bureau of Investigation in December 1951 under J. Edgar Hoover. He served in the Mobile, Knoxville, New York City, and Albuquerque offices. He held posts as an Assistant Special Agent-in-Charge in New Haven and Philadelphia. In 1973 he became the head of the Memphis FBI and then the head of the Dallas FBI in 1975.[5] Ted Gunderson was appointed the head of the Los Angeles FBI in 1977.[6] In 1979 he was one of a handful interviewed for the job of FBI director, which ultimately went to William H. Webster.[7]

After retiring from the FBI, Gunderson, set up a private investigation firm, Ted L. Gunderson and Associates, in Santa Monica. In 1980, he became a defense investigator for Green Beret Doctor Jeffrey R. MacDonald, who had been convicted of the 1970 murders of his pregnant wife and two daughters. Gunderson obtained affidavits from Helena Stoeckley confessing to her involvement in the murders.[8]

He also investigated a child molestation trial in Manhattan Beach California. In a 1995 conference in Dallas, Gunderson warned about the proliferation of secret Satanic groups, and the danger posed by the New World Order, a shadow government that would be controlling the US government.[9] He also claimed that a "slave auction" in which children were sold to men in turbans had been held in Las Vegas, that four thousand ritual human sacrifices are performed in New York City every year, and that the 1995 bombing of the Alfred P. Murrah Federal Building in Oklahoma City was carried out by the US government.[9] Gunderson believed that in the US there is a secret widespread network of groups who kidnap children and infants, and subject them to Satanic ritual abuse and subsequent human sacrifice.[10][11]

Gunderson, a member of the Constitution Party, died on July 31, 2011 due to arsenic poisoning like symptoms.



http://www.educate-yourself.org/tg/

All files & information within link.

This guy is legitimate & as close as it gets to revealing the shadow government.

He was recently poisoned to death.:sad:

What say you?

Edited by treesniper119 (06/18/13 01:56 PM)

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Re: The Unenlightened Fool [Re: Penelope_Tree]
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I wouldn't mind if the poster wrote "see 52:30 to 53:15 of this clip."

Otherwise they might as well just post a link to google.com.


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Re: The Unenlightened Fool [Re: Kickle]
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Kickle said:
quit fooling around
err.. :laugh:


More enlightened about the global hierarchy yes. More enlightened about any conspiracy no. You lose! joke :tongue:

:courtjester:

I loved the links though. Thank you.

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One thing won't chime with some of the protesters' claims: the super-entity is unlikely to be the intentional result of a conspiracy to rule the world. "Such structures are common in nature," says Sugihara.

Newcomers to any network connect preferentially to highly connected members. TNCs buy shares in each other for business reasons, not for world domination. If connectedness clusters, so does wealth, says Dan Braha of NECSI: in similar models, money flows towards the most highly connected members. The Zurich study, says Sugihara, "is strong evidence that simple rules governing TNCs give rise spontaneously to highly connected groups". Or as Braha puts it: "The Occupy Wall Street claim that 1 per cent of people have most of the wealth reflects a logical phase of the self-organising economy."


http://www.newscientist.com/article/mg21228354.500-revealed--the-capitalist-network-that-runs-the-world.html#.UcOL4pwkxi-


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"It is the peculiar quality of a fool to perceive the faults of others and forget his own." - Marcus Tullius Cicero

"A room without books is like a body without a soul."  - Marcus Tullius Cicero

"Do not bite at the bait of pleasure, till you know there is no hook beneath it." -Thomas Jefferson

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Re: The Unenlightened Fool [Re: treesniper119]
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Quote:
What say you?


The stuff the dude says is spooky, but I couldn't find a link to any of the actual files it is based on. If I can't see the actual files, then I have no way of believing what he is saying is fact.


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"It is the peculiar quality of a fool to perceive the faults of others and forget his own." - Marcus Tullius Cicero

"A room without books is like a body without a soul."  - Marcus Tullius Cicero

"Do not bite at the bait of pleasure, till you know there is no hook beneath it." -Thomas Jefferson

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Re: The Unenlightened Fool [Re: dustinthewind13]
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You hit the part I thought was key also :thumbup:
It doesn't look like it's anything more than the way it works
a wholly natural process of enslavement, no conspiracy necessary


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Re: The Unenlightened Fool [Re: Kickle]
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Now that I look back at your links I could have responded earlier. Or just watched the TED video. I thought it was three different cases I'd have to analyze and would take too much time, but its all pointing to the same thing. However, although I don't believe there is a conspiracy going on among members of the "super- entity", some companies sure act like they would 1984 us all if they had the chance.


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"It is the peculiar quality of a fool to perceive the faults of others and forget his own." - Marcus Tullius Cicero

"A room without books is like a body without a soul."  - Marcus Tullius Cicero

"Do not bite at the bait of pleasure, till you know there is no hook beneath it." -Thomas Jefferson

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Re: The Unenlightened Fool [Re: dustinthewind13]
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Oh sure. Control seems to be a natural byproduct of power. I know that many of the companies shown in the top 50 most connected companies have some really horrendous practices. Banks for example love to loan money to countries and then collect interest at a rate the country can barely sustain let alone ever actually pay off. Some countries end up stripping their natural resources just to pay the interest. It's ridiculous.


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