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OfflineJackofSpades
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Space Migration or Archaic Revival?
    #11373661 - 11/03/09 12:56 AM (8 years, 21 days ago)

What is the direction were heading in?


Leary says space migration and McKennna says Archaic Revival.

Perhaps both, first an archaic revival and then space migration?


what do you all think?

Do these theories run contrary to one another or what?


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Re: Space Migration or Archaic Revival? [Re: JackofSpades]
    #11373723 - 11/03/09 01:04 AM (8 years, 21 days ago)

Depends on who you are. I see this as a more personal schism, rather than societal. You can see how it is happening (somewhat) simultaneously with advancing technology and a desire to preserve the earth.


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Re: Space Migration or Archaic Revival? [Re: JackofSpades]
    #11373731 - 11/03/09 01:05 AM (8 years, 21 days ago)

I imagine we will continue to fuck ourselves in a gridlock of ideological disagreement


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Re: Space Migration or Archaic Revival? [Re: JackofSpades]
    #11373861 - 11/03/09 01:28 AM (8 years, 21 days ago)

Space migration. Really, how could the archaic revival happen? We would have to find a way to all be illiterate, for one.


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Re: Space Migration or Archaic Revival? [Re: Epigallo]
    #11373940 - 11/03/09 01:45 AM (8 years, 21 days ago)

what about cyberspace migration?


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Re: Space Migration or Archaic Revival? [Re: rebus_minus]
    #11374034 - 11/03/09 02:07 AM (8 years, 21 days ago)

It's hard to imagine living inside a computer.


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Re: Space Migration or Archaic Revival? [Re: Epigallo]
    #11374104 - 11/03/09 02:26 AM (8 years, 21 days ago)

space exploration is unlikely.

Archaic revival is sort of another name for a Dark Age...

I think we are heading in a direction no one can really foretell.

But it involves what it has always involved:

guns
disease
famine
orgies!!!

The question is: when? where? who?

Can it occur in such a way that it quickly fixes the world?

or will it be long and drawn out?

There will be many changes to this world in our lifetime.. but they really could go either way. That is the nature of power, and humans have become powerful creatures


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Re: Space Migration or Archaic Revival? [Re: JackofSpades]
    #11374756 - 11/03/09 07:18 AM (8 years, 21 days ago)

I don't think either will really happen. Space migration would be by far the most likely imo.


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Re: Space Migration or Archaic Revival? [Re: JackofSpades]
    #11374794 - 11/03/09 07:33 AM (8 years, 21 days ago)

Some will run away, some will stay...

:peace:


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Re: Space Migration or Archaic Revival? [Re: JackofSpades]
    #11375370 - 11/03/09 10:52 AM (8 years, 20 days ago)

Space migration of course.

But first comes the Apocalypse induced by too many humans and too little resources.


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Re: Space Migration or Archaic Revival? [Re: deCypher]
    #11378646 - 11/03/09 07:23 PM (8 years, 20 days ago)

"We had access to too much money, too much equipment, and little by little we went insane"- Francis Ford Coppola on Apocalypse Now

I'll take that as a statement from the defense.


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Re: Space Migration or Archaic Revival? [Re: JackofSpades]
    #11378657 - 11/03/09 07:25 PM (8 years, 20 days ago)

Quote:

JackofSpades said:
What is the direction were heading in?


Leary says space migration and McKennna says Archaic Revival.

Perhaps both, first an archaic revival and then space migration?


what do you all think?

Do these theories run contrary to one another or what?




I would like what's behind door number three.


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Re: Space Migration or Archaic Revival? [Re: Band of Gypsys]
    #11378679 - 11/03/09 07:28 PM (8 years, 20 days ago)

You won some polka-dotted lawn furniture and a year's supply of Alpo dog food!


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Re: Space Migration or Archaic Revival? [Re: OrgoneConclusion]
    #11378703 - 11/03/09 07:31 PM (8 years, 20 days ago)

My granpa is gonna love the Alpo.


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Re: Space Migration or Archaic Revival? [Re: Band of Gypsys]
    #11378717 - 11/03/09 07:33 PM (8 years, 20 days ago)

Perhaps some radical could release an infertility epidemic.


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Re: Space Migration or Archaic Revival? [Re: JackofSpades]
    #11378966 - 11/03/09 08:18 PM (8 years, 20 days ago)

I would like to add that an "archaic revival" as I see it would not involve a return to a lower state of consciousness collectively, but merely becoming more intimate with the earth instead of looking at it as something in turns to take what we want from and protect ourselves against.


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and I will have the will, strengthened
as I’ll be with contemplation and study—
at the crucial moments I’ll recover
my spirit as was before: ascetic.”


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Re: Space Migration or Archaic Revival? [Re: Lion]
    #11378997 - 11/03/09 08:22 PM (8 years, 20 days ago)

You don't see the IKEA-generation as having progressed!? :lol:

Fuck off with your sofa units and strine green stripe patterns.


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Re: Space Migration or Archaic Revival? [Re: Lion]
    #11379080 - 11/03/09 08:39 PM (8 years, 20 days ago)

Quote:

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I would like to add that an "archaic revival" as I see it would not involve a return to a lower state of consciousness collectively, but merely becoming more intimate with the earth instead of looking at it as something in turns to take what we want from and protect ourselves against.





I'm going to state for the record that the earth is toast. I've lived long enough to see that. When I was a kid woods were in my back yard and I lived in the city. People walked, and I lived on a dirt road. I can't even find a dirt road in the beautiful little mountain town I live in now. Nobody understands that it's over so I'm going on record.


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Re: Space Migration or Archaic Revival? [Re: Icelander]
    #11379300 - 11/03/09 09:08 PM (8 years, 20 days ago)

I think Carlin said it better: "The Planet is fine, the people are fucked. Nature is self-correcting system.

Life always prevails. I mean look at that show "Life after people", if everyone disappeared, every city in a matter of a few decades was shown to be overrun entirely by wilderness. Society requires a fuck load of upkeep by us, otherwise the Earth would just crush it.

Your mountain town would return into a lush forest probably not too long after all its residents left/died.

But yeah. I could see the archaic revival being more of a return to sustainable living--perhaps not even forcing us to sacrifice our technology, but rather causing us to integrate our technology in a sustainable way--biodome?

It seems to me that the next evolutionary step is binding society and nature together in harmony instead of having the two operate in contradiction of one another.


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Edited by JackofSpades (11/03/09 09:11 PM)


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Re: Space Migration or Archaic Revival? [Re: JackofSpades]
    #11379348 - 11/03/09 09:16 PM (8 years, 20 days ago)

Well the earth lived on after the big rock hit but it wasn't much of a nice place. Right now we are getting rid of life forms at a record pace. Destroying forest, who knows what the long term effects of all this pollution will be, the ocean which I considered invulnerable when younger is going down fast. Yeah there will still be life around but it's not the kind of "life" that I'm going to want. Shit I don't want what we got now. You youngsters don't know how much has gone for the most part. You grew up thinking concrete and tarmac was the norm. I'm glad I'm getting gone. I wouldn't want to be a kid now.


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" All that lives was born to die"-Anom.

With much wisdom comes much sorrow,
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