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http://exchristian.net/exchristian/2002_05_10_archive.php Consider this: when God created all the animals he made male and female together. Then he created Adam. Adam was alone in the Garden of Eden, so God puts Adam to sleep, extracts one of his ribs and out of that single rib creates Eve. Even before the fall woman is accorded inferior status by deliberately being created after Adam instead of being created together. Why would an all-knowing God create man first then woman, shouldn't he have known that Adam would need a partner? Anyway, God places Adam and Eve in the Garden of Eden and permits them to eat the fruit from all the trees but one - the tree of "knowledge"! The serpent, a wise and knowing creature approached Eve and suggested that she eat from the forbidden tree. When Eve saw that the fruit was desirable for gaining wisdom, she took some and ate it - it is no surprise that Abrahamic religions value ignorance as a virtue for women. Adam is exonerated from sin since it was the woman who led him astray. Perhaps Adam would have been better off with an inflatable doll rather than a real, thinking woman! Calvin declared: Quote:
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Yes, since the beginning of humanity's developmental trend away from the Matriarchal level of consciousness to the Patriarchal level (from Jungian analyst Erich Neumann's work, particularly in 'The Great Mother') the Patriarchy has ruled. But just because the masculine bias has dominated does NOT mean that it is or has been accurate.
This is why several of my posts draw attention to the vector of Christianity known as Gnostic Christianity. Not that any one school should be dogmatically embraced, the Gnostics continued the early egalitarian attitude that Jesus established. This is why The Gospel of Mary Magdalene and other 'heretical' gospels which were eliminated from the canon: they said that it was Magdalene - a woman - who not only was the 'Apostle to the Apostles' because she was the first to witness the Resurrection (whatever that event actually was), and that it was Mary, not John who was the beloved disciple. DaVinci's 'Last Supper' illustrates a woman at the position that the 'beloved disciple' is to have had (unless John had breasts), so it is not a new idea. I do not personally believe that Jesus and Mary had children who grew up in France and became the Merovingian blood-line, but it is more than conceivable that the mysogynistic Church Fathers distorted the Truth for their own female-despising agendas. Moreover, in Judaism, a man was not allowed to speak openly in the Temple unless married and therefore 'complete' in his psychosexual and psychospiritual development. It is also conceivable that Mary was His 'wife' in a perhaps, unconventional sense. The later celibate value NEVER had a place in Jewish theology (except perhaps with the Essenes, which John the Baptist may have been, but not Jesus). On my home shrine-table I have added statues of Mary Magdalene and Mary the Mother of Jesus, as well as a statue of Sophia - GOD's Wisdom - depicted as the Divine Feminine. These are there to balance the masculine representational art of the crucifix, a Cosmic Christ in the maw of Hell, a seven-branched menorah and a model of the Kabbalistic Tree (Feminine-Masculine-Neutral/Abstract). This bit of representational play is symbolic of our attempt to pull the obscured Divine Femine out of the Masculine, like Athena emerging from the head of Zeus. In Aramaic, Jesus would have (perhaps) called GOD "Abwoon," 'Cosmic Birther' or 'Cosmic Mother-Father,' with etymological roots in the same place as the Arabic 'Allah.' Oddly enough, as severely patriarchal as Islam is, their Name of GOD has a feminine component built into it. Anyway, thought I'd respond. Shalom. Salaam. -------------------- γνῶθι σαὐτόν - Gnothi Seauton - Know Thyself
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Some balance here but it ain't easy; tough row to hoe, so to say. Notice that it is all language. Meaning is intimately involved with language. And Being can not be divorced from meaning. Don't ask me what that means, but understand that it is meaning-full.
Jesus' radical treatment of women: Christ overthrew many centuries of Jewish law and custom. He consistently treated women and men as equals. He violated numerous Old Testament regulations, which specified gender inequality. He refused to follow the behavioral rules established by the three major Jewish religious groups of the day: the Essenes, Pharisees and Sadducees. "The actions of Jesus of Nazareth towards women were therefore revolutionary." 1 Some examples are: He ignored ritual impurity laws: Mark 5:25-34 describes Jesus' cure of a woman who suffered from menstrual bleeding for 12 years. In Judean society of the day, it was a major transgression for a man to talk to a woman other than his wife or children. He talked to foreign women: John 4:7 to 5:30 describes Jesus' conversation with a woman of Samaria. She was doubly ritually unclean since she was both a foreigner and a woman. Men were not allowed to talk to women, except within thier own families. Jesus also helped a Canaanite woman, another foreigner, in Matthew 15:21. He is recorded as curing her daughter of demon-possession. He taught women students: Jewish tradition at the time was to not allow women to be taught. Rabbi Eliezer wrote in the 1st century CE: "Rather should the words of the Torah be burned than entrusted to a woman...Whoever teaches his daughter the Torah is like one who teaches her obscenity." 5 ?Jesus overthrew centuries of tradition. In Luke 10:38-42, he taught Mary. He used terminology which treated women as equal to men: Luke 13:16 describes how he cured a woman from an indwelling Satanic spirit. He called her a daughter of Abraham, thus implying that she had equal status with sons of Abraham. "The expression 'son of Abraham' was commonly used to respectfully refer to a Jew, but 'daughter of Abraham', was an unknown parallel phrase...It occurs nowhere else in the Bible." It seems to be a designation created by Jesus. Luke 7:35 to 8:50 describes how Jesus' forgave a woman's sins. He refers to women and men (i.e. "all" people) as children of wisdom. He accepted women in his inner circle: Luke 8:1-3 describes the inner circle of Jesus' followers: 12 male disciples and an unspecified number female supporters (Mary Magdalene, Joanna, Susanna and "many others.") It would appear that about half of his closest followers were women. He appeared first to a woman after his resurrection: Matthew 28:9-10 describes how Mary Magdalene and "the other Mary" were the first followers of Jesus to meet him after his resurrection. (However, this account is contradicted by passages in 1 Corinthians, which state that the first person to see Jesus was Cleopas, Peter or all of the disciples.) Women were present at Jesus' death: Matthew 27:55-56 and Mark 15:40-41 describe many women who followed Jesus from Galilee and were present at his crucifixion. The men had fled from the scene. (John 19:25-27 contradicts this; the author describes John as being present with the women.) He told parallel stories: The author of the Gospel of Luke and of Acts shows many parallel episodes: one relating to a woman, the other to a man. For example: Simeon and Hannah in Luke 2:25-38 Widow of Sarepta and Naaman in Luke 4:25-38 Healing of a man possessed by a demon and the healing of the mother of Peter's wife, starting in Luke 4:31 The woman who had lived a sinful life and Simon, starting in Luke 7:36 A man and woman sleeping together in Luke 17:34 Ananias and Sapphira in Acts 5:1-11 Dionysius and Damaris in Acts 17:34 Lydia and the jailer's conversion in Acts 16:14-34 The book "Women in the Earliest Churches" lists 9 additional parallels. 3 Author Ben Withernington III quotes H. Flender: "Luke expresses by this arrangement that man and woman stand together and side by side before God. They are equal in honor and grace; they are endowed with the same gifts and have the same responsibilities." He expressed concern for widows: Jesus repeated the importance of supporting widows throughout his ministry. The Gospel of Luke alone contains 6 references to widows: (Luke 2:36, 4:26, 7:11, 18:1, 20:47 and 21:1) Divorce: In Jesus' time, a man could divorce his wife, but the wife had no right to divorce her husband. This practice is supported by seven? references in the Hebrew Scriptures (Old Testament) in which a husband gives his wife a bill of divorce. There were no references to a woman giving her husband such a bill. In Mark 10:11-12, Jesus overthrows this tradition and states that neither spouse can divorce the other; he treats the wife and husband equally.? There are two passages where Jesus deviates from his usual practice of treating women equally: His disciples: There are three conflicting lists of the names of the 12 disciples that Jesus selected. In all cases, the disciples were male. He later selected a total of 70 disciples; the gender makeup of the latter group was not recorded. Levirate Marriage: In Mark 12:18-27 Jesus answered a question posed by some Sadducees. They described a woman who was widowed and required to marry her brother-in-law. This was called a "Levirate" marriage. Their first-born son will be considered to be the son of the deceased husband. In this case, they imagined that seven brothers-in-law married her in succession without having a son. Jesus could have used the opportunity to preach on the unfairness of this requirement of Jewish law (from Deuteronomy 25:5-10). After all, the woman was not allowed to refuse to marry any of the brothers, even if she despised some of them. Levirate marriage often involved serial rape. But Jesus is not recorded as having condemned the practice. There is a passage in the Christian Scriptures (New Testament) where Jesus is reported as having insulted a woman. He referred to her as a dog, a sub-human. However, his treatment of the woman was apparently based on racist feelings, not on sexist beliefs. In Matthew 15:22-28 she was described as a Canaanite; Mark 7:25-30 identifyied her as Greek/Syrophenician. She had pleaded with Jesus to cure her daughter who was possessed by a demon. He first ignored her, but then explained that he was sent only to bring the Gospel to the Jews, not to the Gentiles such as she. Jesus cruelly replied to the desperate mother that it was not right for him "to take the children's bread and to cast it to dogs." i.e. it is not appropriate to take the Gospel, which was intended only for the Jews, and offer it to Gentiles as well -- here described as sub-humans, as dogs. (Observant Jews in the 1st century CE often referred to Gentiles contemptuously as "dogs.") She quipped back to Jesus that even the "dogs eat of the crumbs which fall from their masters' table." Jesus relented and, from a distance, cured the daughter of demonic possession because of the mother's faith. Treatment of Mary Magdalene by an Angel: In Matthew 28:1-7, after Jesus' resurrection, "Mary Magdalene and the other Mary" receive the first apostolic commission of any human - to tell the good news of the? resurrection to the disciples. This is reinforced by Jesus' appearance before the two women. The two Marys were thus the first apostles. Reference Link Edited by bufo (05/01/04 07:51 AM)
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