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Re: Debate:Weed in Bible [Re: deff]
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I was talking with an acqauintance yesterday, and he was telling me that in the bible it mentions something or other of THC. I didn't say anything as to not embarrass him, but geeeeeez. Same guy told me the story of how his supposed friend ate too much acid and then thought he was a glass of orange juice for the rest of his life (i've had many people tell me this). Same guy told me he had a friend who dosed acid and jumped out a window because he thought he could fly. GEEEEEEEEEEZ. Sorry this is sort of off topic.


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Re: Debate:Weed in Bible [Re: DMTelepath]
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If you continue to read in Romans, it mentions that the "strong" eat meat (which in this case was meat that was sold in market after it had been sacrificed to idols) and the "weak" abstain. It also mentions that the strong should not look down on the weak, nor should the weak hold the strong in contempt. If this is so, you friend is also wrong for lookin down on you because you feel that you have the freedom to enjoy what God has made.
I truly believe that God made all plants for us to use wisely. Cannabis is a good medicine, but what actually includes "medicine." If I smoke a spliff to relax, or puff a bowl for back pain, both these acts could be considered medicinal. Just try to be there for your friend, even if he doesn't like what you're doing. Support him and be nice!


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Re: Debate:Weed in Bible [Re: Moonshoe]
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You just want to know his reason? It's because he's brainwashed. He's in a cult, you've lost your friend.

If you're going to still be friends with him, I would not suggest being supportive of his position. I think you should make your world view very clear to him and let him decide if he still wants to associate with you. If you two can be friends, you should be. Friends are good. But you'll never see eye to eye about this and you should both just accept that. Trying to dissuade each other will only breed contempt.

Play dominos, just don't debate pot.


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Re: Debate:Weed in Bible [Re: recalcitrant]
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recalcitrant said:
He's in a cult, you've lost your friend.


Just because someone stops doing drugs doesn't mean they're in a cult... it sounds like it'd be all the way around


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Re: Debate:Weed in Bible [Re: ld50negative1]
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The cult of the general american population i believe he meant. The zombies that spread misinformation like aids.


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Re: Debate:Weed in Bible [Re: Razz]
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I wish I still had my references from school

But in the Old testamant they use a ointment made from Cana grass

If you cross reference the original Hebrew text, Cana grass is weed.

I am only going on memory so please don't anyone say I am wrong.

Anyway the priest had to get rubbed down over their entire body with this stuff. They could not enter the tabernacle without this stuff. Think about it..............If I rubbed your entire naked body down with Hash oil you would get very high. The priests were stoned


Dude I have been around the church more than once. And after spending great amount of time close walking with Jesus. I learned something very important about drugs and God

If anything you do takes you from the path then stop. If what you do keeps you on the path then don't stop.

God has a plan for anyone who choses to follow him. I for one cut way back on the herb when I was a active member of my church. I was ordained as a prophet. I was under the gun so to speak. But,I never gave up the herb.

So someone might say my continued use caused me to fall. Mabey that's true. But God has never left me. He dosen't make me feel bad for the choices I make.

And that is the real lesson to understand. If the people around you are making you feel bad about your choices. Then they are not close to the God I know.

You will not find any good arguement to win a debate with 99% of Christians. It is better to just be who you are and enjoy your freindship. If your friend stops being your friend or something stupid. Then you be the better human and keep loving him. Christians hate that, When you don't change and still love them.

I for one always believed that Jesus was a big time sinner until he was 31. Then he did his fathers work. This beliefe is part of why I don't go to churh any longer. Jesus was God being a man. A man gets high and fucks etc..........

See God had to become a Man and then show it is possiable to overcome sin. To give all. God died as a Sin free man to show man he can overcome everything in the name of love.

Jesus was a man who got high and sinned like a big dog. LOL
But when the time came he dropped it all for the goal.

So in conclustion. God gives each man a Goal. It's up to you to follow that goal. What ever it is. Only you will know. So if getting high is Ok between you and God then it is.


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Re: Debate:Weed in Bible [Re: recalcitrant]
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To say that someone is brainwashed because they do not prefer to take drugs is insane. Many people DO NOT take drugs. When a debate has hit this point something really messed up has happened. Most of the entheogen users here speak of freedom and choice so to imply that someone does NOT have a choice but to take drugs is screwed.


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Re: Debate:Weed in Bible [Re: Huehuecoyotl]
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http://www.cannabisculture.com/backissues/cc11/christ.html - "The "m" is a pronounced plural, and the singular kaneh-bos SOUNDS REMARKABLY SIMILAR to the modern cannabis." _ Even though i want to... I just cant buy this... Just because a word SOUNDS like cannabis doesn't mean its translation is such. The anointing oil for priesthood used primarily in the O.T. was meant for aromatic purposes, like a cologne.
"Although often mistranslated as "calamus", the word has been translated as "fragrant-cane" in most modern bibles, and specifically designates the fragrant flowering tops of cannabis.Cannabis has been used as a material for a long time but never for a ingredient in fragrances. Although their version of Jesus' baptism by John describes it as involving submersion under water, the term "baptism" has connotations of "initiation", and GNOSTIC scriptures indicate that the original rite was performed in conjunction with the kaneh-bosm anointing rite, "the anointing taking place either before or after the baptismal ceremony." _ First of all, Gnosticism is the doctrine of certain pre-Christian pagan, Jewish, and early Christian sects that valued the revealed knowledge of God and of the origin and end of the human race as a means to attain redemption for the spiritual element in human beings and that distinguished the Demiurge from the unknowable Divine Being, or someone who claimed to have special knowledge, particularly of a religious nature, such as passwords for getting into the heavens or for controlling angels.

". . . you have an anointing from the Holy One, and all of you know the truth. . . . the anointing you received from him remains in you, and you do not need anyone to teach you. But as his anointing teaches you about all things and as that anointing is real, not counterfeit - just as it has taught you, remain in him." (1 John 2: 27)." _ When Jesus came to earth he separated the gap between us and God, the need for sacrifices, physical anointment's, and going through a preist to talk to him became entirely unnecessary and ineffective, as we received him (the holy spirit) inside of us. The anointing he is talking about is not physical, it is the spiritual anointing we received from him to go and speak his truth to all nations, baptizing (no, not f*cking them up) in the name of the Father, Son, and HS.
". . . the Christian, the 'smeared or anointed one', received 'knowledge of all things' by his 'anointing from the Holy One' (1 John 2: 20). Thereafter he had need of no other teacher and remained forevermore endowed with all knowledge (v. 27)." _ We have no need of any other teacher BECAUSE he has ALREADY given us the command (anointing if you will) to go and preach, True knowledge is the gift of the Spirit (Isaiah 11:2), and the function of the Spirit is to lead non-Christians to the truth (John 14:17, 26; 16:13).
It seems like a fabrication and manipulation of the facts to me... although, I do have a professor fluent in Greek, Hebrew, and the Septuagint who I will ask tomorrow in case I'm completely off base here.


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