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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: cooleko] * 2
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It’s more to prevent the culture from running through it completely than mold prevention.  The casing is a water reservoir and scaffold for fruit.  Cubes don’t need one, of course.

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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: Mycolorado]
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Thanks for sharing, I'll store that tidbit away. If it is expected to prevent pan mycelium from completely colonizing it, then it is likely it has a similar effect against trich, so there is a grain of truth in the idea.

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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: cooleko]
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You are correct, the lower pH (below 6 I believe) is hospitable for trich and other molds. Optimal pH for agaricales is slightly acidic to neutralish, around 6.5-7.5, iirc.  Above that should prevent colonization and contamination.

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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: Mycolorado]
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Mycolorado said:
You are correct, the lower pH (below 6 I believe) is hospitable for trich and other molds. Optimal pH for agaricales is slightly acidic to neutralish, around 6.5-7.5, iirc.  Above that should prevent colonization and contamination.



you saying i probably shouldnt use my RO filtered water to prep coir? you saying its not only pointless to filter out mag and K, but potentially detrimental?

yes i think thats what youre saying. got it.  fuck.  why cant i learn something *before* i make a mistake for once?

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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: BeefExtreme]
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Ha, I don’t think it’s that crucial as far as coir prep goes.  RO is slightly acidic and CO tap, depending where you live is probably 7-9.  I think Denver is 8.8.  Coir has a pH of 6.5-6.7.  I use tap.  I save the RO for the carnivorous plants.

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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: BeefExtreme]
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BeefSupremeJr said:
Mycolorado said:
You are correct, the lower pH (below 6 I believe) is hospitable for trich and other molds. Optimal pH for agaricales is slightly acidic to neutralish, around 6.5-7.5, iirc.  Above that should prevent colonization and contamination.



you saying i probably shouldnt use my RO filtered water to prep coir? you saying its not only pointless to filter out mag and K, but potentially detrimental?

yes i think thats what youre saying. got it.  fuck.  why cant i learn something *before* i make a mistake for once?



Nothing wrong with RO or distilled water, but it may be pointless. I’ve only ever used pH 7.8 buffered water for mush stuff, with 1ppm chloramine. The advantage is the minerals, but the disadvantage is the pH and chloramine. Distilled water is about the perfect amount of acidic (yes, don’t ever let someone tell you distilled water is 7 pH neutral), but doesn’t have the minerals. I don’t think it matters. So many other factors eclipse the water to make a great grow.


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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: Mycolorado] * 1
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Mycolorado said:
Ha, I don’t think it’s that crucial as far as coir prep goes.  RO is slightly acidic and CO tap, depending where you live is probably 7-9.  I think Denver is 8.8.  Coir has a pH of 6.5-6.7.  I use tap.  I save the RO for the carnivorous plants.



my RO water comes out at 7.0 ph... I use RO water  for every aspect of cultivation... never seen an issue using RO water🤷

Edited by Leftfield420 (03/14/23 07:04 PM)

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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: Leftfield420] * 2
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It may come out of the filter at 7 but will start dropping as it absorbs CO2 from the air.  :shrug:  Like I said, I don’t think it matters one way or another.

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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: Mycolorado] * 4
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hmm. well..  it tastes fuckin great.  and i want my shrooms to have great tasting water, myco.

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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: BeefExtreme]
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:lol:

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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: BeefExtreme]
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BeefSupremeJr said:
hmm. well..  it tastes fuckin great.  and i want my shrooms to have great tasting water, myco.



Water with beer. Easy.


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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: Mycolorado] * 1
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Mycolorado said:
It may come out of the filter at 7 but will start dropping as it absorbs CO2 from the air.  :shrug:  Like I said, I don’t think it matters one way or another.




I keep my RO water resevoir airated for my ganja, so the ph stays at consistant @ 7.0 ph... but I read ph does drop due to co² absorbtion, I didn't know that..  I've been using RO water for cultivation for years, my tap water is fucked... my dogs won't drink the tap water and my cacti hated it, so I quit using tap water for anything other than washing my ass...

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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: BeefExtreme]
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BeefSupremeJr said:
hmm. well..  it tastes fuckin great.  and i want my shrooms to have great tasting water, myco.



Bullshit. You’re saying water tastes great? Like from the toilet? And with no electrolytes? Give your shrooms the thirst mutilator. It’s got what shrooms crave.


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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: San Pedro Girl] * 2
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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: Leftfield420]
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Leftfield420 said:
Mycolorado said:
It may come out of the filter at 7 but will start dropping as it absorbs CO2 from the air.  :shrug:  Like I said, I don’t think it matters one way or another.




I keep my RO water resevoir airated for my ganja, so the ph stays at consistant @ 7.0 ph... but I read ph does drop due to co² absorbtion, I didn't know that..  I've been using RO water for cultivation for years, my tap water is fucked... my dogs won't drink the tap water and my cacti hated it, so I quit using tap water for anything other than washing my ass...



Oxygen is too reactive to dissolve into water past a certain point. But CO2 forms H2CO3, carbonic acid, which will accumulate and drop the pH. Still water with a lower surface area will accumulate more than turbulent water with a large surface area.
:havesomescience:


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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: San Pedro Girl] * 3
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I only give my mushrooms expensive bottled water, fed to them by hired models wearing nothing but nods.... in a dark closet.


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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: Mr Piggy]
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Mr Piggy said:
I only give my mushrooms expensive bottled water, fed to them by hired models wearing nothing but nods.... in a dark closet.




Tell me more about the nods.  dual? qaud?


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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: San Pedro Girl] * 3
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San Pedro Girl said:
Oxygen is too reactive to dissolve into water past a certain point. But CO2 forms H2CO3, carbonic acid, which will accumulate and drop the pH. Still water with a lower surface area will accumulate more than turbulent water with a large surface area.
:havesomescience:



Sorry to be so blunt but your "science" isn't right here. Oxygen doesn't react with water. It's sparingly soluble because it's non-polar and water is polar. Simple as that.

Also, still water or turbulent water doesn't matter. Both will eventually absorb the same amount of CO2 under the same conditions. All that matters here is the partial pressure of CO2.

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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: Adas]
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I have some decent P.cyan growth in a grain jar that I was going to put on agar. It came from a syringe. What happens is you go straight to a shoebox without agar? I’ve read all cyan’s have to come from clean agar.

Edited by Auron (03/15/23 11:42 PM)

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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: Auron] * 1
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Edit vendor from post and read the rules on posting. :rules:

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