THE MYCOSMITH said:

Hey

You guys forgets the best reson to grow bispo is its one of the most beautiful pans for the eyes. It's should  also be a little Harder to grow and I think we all here like the challenges in the hobby.

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I don't forget But Bunnell is also incredibly gorgeous. At least the ones I've grown (look at my journal).

Shrimps said:

Repost from dealing with contam thread:

This was the tray about 16hours ago:


This was like 10 minutes ago (before I tossed it)


One of my two Nec-D trys fell to the Trich-Devil >.< My other tray is still looking good, I sure hope that stays that way. Threw the Trich-tray out imidiatly. When I flipped it out of the tray, the bottom was already halfway green >.<

Edit: So I am still a failure until I at least can harvest one fully grown pan ^^

Edit edit: I also checked the bottom of my other tray (which is thankfully also showing tiny pins), it doesn't show anything sketchy (kind of a white-seethrough plastic). So fingers crossed

Hope at least some people can get their eye schooled on how to see trich maybe a bit better

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that sucks. i was rooting for you. but good job noticing the trich before it turned green. you noticed it a full 24 hours before it turned green


why do you think your subs are contaminating? how long do they take to colonize? maybe they are too wet? maybe your spawn is dirty?

Shrimps said:

Other reason could be that (they were from two different spawn jars) the Jar was already contaminated but I've didn't notice it there

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Shrimps said:

yeah but both trays have gotten the casing as well as the substrate out of the same bag. So if it would have been itroduced through the sub or casing then both should have gotten trich?

I think it came from the flies. But that's just a guess ^^

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Hindsight said:

Shrimps said:

yeah but both trays have gotten the casing as well as the substrate out of the same bag. So if it would have been itroduced through the sub or casing then both should have gotten trich?

I think it came from the flies. But that's just a guess ^^

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Yes it absolutely could have come from the flies. But it could have also been introduced through the sub or casing or tubs themselves. All that said, the main point I was trying to make is that it didn't come from your jars, so if you are looking for ways of reducing risk or increasing cleanliness or changing your process, I would suggest focusing on all the things that take place after your jars are colonized and then opened to spawn to bulk.

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kondu said:

BTW.
What do You suggest to add to rye grain for spawn? I am soaking rye for 16-24h, then simmer for 10-15min until it is a bit drier.
Thanks in advance and mush love guys 🍄🍄

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i'd send that to grain

what do you mean "add to rye grain"? i'm not aware of anyone adding anything to grain. you just hydrate it, sterilize it, and then inoculate it.

ruawakeyet said:

Aside from eliminating the flies or gnats, I would recommend switching your casing material to peat/verm + lime. I don't think it had anything to do with the trich outbreak, I just think it would make for a better casing layer for pans. I'm rooting for your other tray and/or next time!

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FriedEgg said:

but like you said, i also like to think of things in terms of risk...

if you have some bacteria in your spawn, it increases your risk.
if you overhydrate your sub while prepping it, it increases your risk.
if you pasteurize your sub incorrectly, it increases your risk.
if you have a fly infestation in your house, it increases your risk.
if you have an unusually high spore load in your house, it increases your risk.
if you choke out your subs and make them try to colonize in an anaerobic environment, it increases your risk
if you put a heating pad under your substrate, it increases your risk.
and so on...
one of these things on its own doesn't always spell disaster. it just means you increased risk for things later down the road, especially if you are making more mistakes later during the process.

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