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Re: WHy it stopped? [Re: Lobi]
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Lobi said:
We must realize the truth is singular and objective; and independent of our perception to it.



:thumbup:

There's nothing which demonstrates the blinding ego more brilliantly than a mind which demands proof to be written in words etched onto a silver platter.

Edited by Duncan Rowhl (05/15/17 05:11 PM)

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Re: WHy it stopped? [Re: Duncan Rowhl]
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Duncan Rowhl said:
'Christ', regarded as a 'name' is evidence in itself of ones misunderstanding.

'Christ' is an inner, sacred and holy essence of truth residing in the hearts of everyone.



The only thing that resides in my heart is blood and tissue., no truth. Truth is comprehended in the mind.

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Re: WHy it stopped? [Re: PussyFart]
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PussyFart said:
Duncan Rowhl said:
'Christ', regarded as a 'name' is evidence in itself of ones misunderstanding.

'Christ' is an inner, sacred and holy essence of truth residing in the hearts of everyone.



The only thing that resides in my heart is blood and tissue., no truth. Truth is comprehended in the mind.



Equally, your identification with literal flesh rather than spirit, which the 'heart' pertains to is Q.E.D. of your miscomprehension.

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Re: WHy it stopped? [Re: Duncan Rowhl]
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define spirit

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Re: WHy it stopped? [Re: PussyFart]
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There is no onus to define something which has already been defined simply because you seemingly haven't found it.

You'll be able to comprehend what has been written and most importantly gain from it as a person when you do.

It's no special club, nor esoteric. It's yours for the taking.

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Re: WHy it stopped? [Re: Duncan Rowhl] * 1
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Just what I thought, gibberish.

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Re: WHy it stopped? [Re: PussyFart]
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PussyFart said:
Just what I thought, gibberish.



Your mannerism is one primary cause and a perfect reflection of your restricting inner state.

We come to know the 'heart' when we are free of fight.

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Re: WHy it stopped? [Re: Duncan Rowhl]
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And i come to know truth from proof and/or practical demonstration. Not vague talks about devine spirits in the "heart" that cannot be logically explained.

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Re: WHy it stopped? [Re: PussyFart]
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PussyFart said:
And i come to know truth from proof and/or practical demonstration. Not vague talks about devine spirits in the "heart" that cannot be logically explained.



We come to know from first hand experience yet your demenour renders that an impossibility.

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Re: WHy it stopped? [Re: Duncan Rowhl]
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Duncan Rowhl said:
PussyFart said:
And i come to know truth from proof and/or practical demonstration. Not vague talks about devine spirits in the "heart" that cannot be logically explained.



We come to know from first hand experience yet your demenour renders that an impossibility.





Just adding my 2c, but this is pretty much how I view my 'soul'.

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Duncan Rowhl said: Others take the first cause into high regard and so call that first cause 'God'.

Without such scope, the ego mind will see only itself.



And hey, I'm not too opposed to this though I like to put the word mortal before god cus I think the ego mind includes the heart :thumbup:


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I am whatever Darwin needs me to be.


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Re: WHy it stopped? [Re: Duncan Rowhl] * 1
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Duncan Rowhl said:
PussyFart said:
And i come to know truth from proof and/or practical demonstration. Not vague talks about devine spirits in the "heart" that cannot be logically explained.



We come to know from first hand experience yet your demenour renders that an impossibility.



I was born and raised catholic and went to catholic school my whole life. I came to the realization that it's all just make believe, like santa or the easter bunny.....or bigfoot. There is just as much evidence for those things as there is a god, yet most people grow out of that mentality. except for when it comes to a "god". I have grown out of it all, as there is no evidence, and trust me, I did once believe, but not once did god ever reveal himself to me. Try as hard as I could, and pray as hard as I might, nothing. Until there is actual tangible evidence, I remain skeptical. Blame it on my demenor if you must, but if there is a god he would know exactly what it would take for me to believe, and yet he does nothing, meaning he doesnt care, or doesn't actually exist. And if he doesnt care, why should I?

Edited by PussyFart (05/15/17 07:27 PM)

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Re: WHy it stopped? [Re: PussyFart]
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PussyFart said:
Duncan Rowhl said:
PussyFart said:
And i come to know truth from proof and/or practical demonstration. Not vague talks about devine spirits in the "heart" that cannot be logically explained.



We come to know from first hand experience yet your demenour renders that an impossibility.



I was born and raised catholic and went to catholic school my whole life. I came to the realization that it's all just make believe, like santa or the easter bunny.....or bigfoot. There is just as much evidence for those things as there is a god, yet most people grow out of that mentality. except for when it comes to a "god". I have grown out of it all, as there is no evidence, and trust me, I did once believe, but not once did god ever reveal himself to me. Try as hard as I could, and pray as hard as I might, nothing. Until there is actual tangible evidence, I remain skeptical. Blame it on my demenor if you must, but if there is a god he would know exactly what it would take for me to believe, and yet he does nothing, meaning he doesnt care, or doesn't actually exist. And if he doesnt care, why should I?



Why do you demand tangible evidence of things which are not tangible?

Attainment of knosis is accomplished by completely relinquishing concern of the tangible.

The problem is not that 'God' is not presenting 'himself'', rather the fact that you are expecting an introduction in a preconceived, idealistic form which can never be, akin to fishing in an arid desert and expecting to catch your favourite fish.

Edited by Duncan Rowhl (05/15/17 08:09 PM)

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Re: WHy it stopped? [Re: Duncan Rowhl]
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Duncan Rowhl said:
Why do you demand tangible evidence of things which are not tangible?

Attainment of knosis is accomplished by completely relinquishing concern of the tangible.



Because I live in reality where tangible matters.

Duncan Rowhl said:
The problem is not that 'God' is not presenting 'himself'', rather the fact that you are expecting an introduction in a preconceived, idealistic form which can never be, akin to fishing in an arid desert.




Then I guess I will remain forever skeptical.

I am in disbelief for the same reason you are in regards to santa, unless you believe a fat man comes down the chimney every year, then I just feel sorry for you.

Edited by PussyFart (05/15/17 08:10 PM)

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Re: WHy it stopped? [Re: PussyFart]
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PussyFart said:
Duncan Rowhl said:
Why do you demand tangible evidence of things which are not tangible?

Attainment of knosis is accomplished by completely relinquishing concern of the tangible.



Because I live in reality where tangible matters.




For as long as you understand that the tangible world is not the place of your answers, you'll know why you don't obtain your answers.

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Re: WHy it stopped? [Re: Duncan Rowhl]
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Well since all that can be demonstrated to exist is this tangible reality, why should I think anything else?

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Re: WHy it stopped? [Re: PussyFart]
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PussyFart said:
Well since all that can be demonstrated to exist is this tangible reality, why should I think anything else?



Tangible is merely all that can be demonstrated to those who outright refuse the potentiality of witnessing anything else and so, through ignorance, the prophecy is fulfilled and the mind perpetually enslaved.

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Re: WHy it stopped? [Re: Duncan Rowhl]
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