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Re: Is the grey matter of all self-dentified conservatives some sort of guano composite? [Re: Great Scott]
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PeyoteZen said:
:braindamage:


Is that your Donald Trump fan club mascot? Fitting.

Quote:
Labor productivity is the value of goods and services produced in a period of time, divided by the hours of labor used to produce them. In other words, labor productivity measures output produced per unit of labor, usually reported as output per hour worked or output per employed person.



Source:
https://www.google.com/?gws_rd=ssl#q=how+is+productivity+measured

So, apparently profit margin has nothing to do with productivity calculations.


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Edited by Bigbadwooof (10/21/16 12:35 PM)

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Re: Is the grey matter of all self-dentified conservatives some sort of guano composite? [Re: Bigbadwooof]
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Bigbadwooof said:
PeyoteZen said:
:braindamage:


Is that your Donald Trump fan club mascot? Fitting.

Quote:
Labor productivity is the value of goods and services produced in a period of time, divided by the hours of labor used to produce them. In other words, labor productivity measures output produced per unit of labor, usually reported as output per hour worked or output per employed person.



Source:
https://www.google.com/?gws_rd=ssl#q=how+is+productivity+measured

So, apparently profit margin has nothing to do with productivity calculations.



Yeah, profit margins are another aspect, but labor unit costs are obviously very important.

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Re: Is the grey matter of all self-dentified conservatives some sort of guano composite? [Re: Bigbadwooof]
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Bigbadwooof said:
PeyoteZen said:
:braindamage:


Is that your Donald Trump fan club mascot? Fitting.


You wish.



Case in point:


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Re: Is the grey matter of all self-dentified conservatives some sort of guano composite? [Re: qman] * 1
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PeyoteZen said:
Case in point:



Case in point?

It's a good thing you're not a lawyer.

qman said:
Bigbadwooof said:
PeyoteZen said:
:braindamage:


Is that your Donald Trump fan club mascot? Fitting.

Quote:
Labor productivity is the value of goods and services produced in a period of time, divided by the hours of labor used to produce them. In other words, labor productivity measures output produced per unit of labor, usually reported as output per hour worked or output per employed person.



Source:
https://www.google.com/?gws_rd=ssl#q=how+is+productivity+measured

So, apparently profit margin has nothing to do with productivity calculations.



Yeah, profit margins are another aspect, but labor unit costs are obviously very important.


Another aspect of what? Of business? Or of productivity calculations?

Neither labor unit costs, nor profit margins are relevant in 'productivity' calculations. Just for the record. At least, according to the way google has outlined the method by which these calculations are made. It is essentially quantity of product created divided by work hours invested. That is not the same as revenue produced divided by wages paid, or quantity of product created divided by wages paid.


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"It is no measure of good health to be well adjusted to a profoundly sick society," - Jiddu Krishnamurti
FARTS
"No my dog won't bite you, tho it had the right to. You ought to give him credit, cuz he knows I woulda let him" - Modest Mouse (And Wooof!)
Every one of you should see this video.
"Facts are chiels that winna ding, and downa be disputed" - Robert Burns


Edited by Bigbadwooof (10/23/16 11:12 AM)

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Re: Is the grey matter of all self-dentified conservatives some sort of guano composite? [Re: Bigbadwooof]
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Re: Is the grey matter of all self-dentified conservatives some sort of guano composite? [Re: qman] * 1
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qman said:
ballsalsa said:
Voodoo economics doesn't work, because benevolent captains of industry are not the engines of the economy.  Consumer demand is what drives the economy, and if consumers don't have any money, demand rapidly declines.


Yeah, like it's just that simple.  Why don't African nations just give their citizens money so the can consume more? 

You do realize the consumers also have to be productive?  :lol:  Somehow Ball missed than one important detail in his rant.


Clearly your definition of productive is different than that of the Bureau of Labor Statistics (BLS).  Regardless, if workers are producing a product and getting paid for it, it's them spending that money drives the economy, per Ballsalsa's point.


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Re: Is the grey matter of all self-dentified conservatives some sort of guano composite? [Re: Falcon91Wolvrn03]
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Falcon91Wolvrn03 said:
qman said:
ballsalsa said:
Voodoo economics doesn't work, because benevolent captains of industry are not the engines of the economy.  Consumer demand is what drives the economy, and if consumers don't have any money, demand rapidly declines.


Yeah, like it's just that simple.  Why don't African nations just give their citizens money so the can consume more? 

You do realize the consumers also have to be productive?  :lol:  Somehow Ball missed than one important detail in his rant.


Clearly your definition of productive is different than that of the Bureau of Labor Statistics (BLS).  Regardless, if workers are producing a product and getting paid for it, it's them spending that money drives the economy, per Ballsalsa's point.


What does it matter who spends the money?  Consumers have also been known to hoard money.

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Re: Is the grey matter of all self-dentified conservatives some sort of guano composite? [Re: qman] * 4
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What does it matter? It matters a great deal...


Consumer spending drives our economy and creates jobs.


Example A) CEO makes $10M a year. Buys one lunch a day, buys one car, buys one house, one cell phone, one tv. Stashes everything else either in much lower taxed investments, or in tax shelters outright.

Example B) 200 workers maks $50k a year. Buy 200 lunches a day, 200 cars, 200 houses, 200 cell phones, 200 tvs.


Which do you think is better for the economy? Or does it not matter who spends the money?


Consumers hoard money :lolsy: Thats why they all have massive debt levels, right?


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Re: Is the grey matter of all self-dentified conservatives some sort of guano composite? [Re: The Ecstatic]
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The Ecstatic said:
What does it matter? It matters a great deal...


Consumer spending drives our economy and creates jobs.


Example A) CEO makes $10M a year. Buys one lunch a day, buys one car, buys one house, one cell phone, one tv. Stashes everything else either in much lower taxed investments, or in tax shelters outright.

Example B) 200 workers maks $50k a year. Buy 200 lunches a day, 200 cars, 200 houses, 200 cell phones, 200 tvs.


Which do you think is better for the economy? Or does it not matter who spends the money?


Consumers hoard money :lolsy: Thats why they all have massive debt levels, right?


"CEO makes $10 million year"

How did you get here?  I just said workers aren't the only people that can spend money.

"Consumers hoard money"

Did you forget about the Great Depression?  Maybe you never spoke to your relatives about that era, most of them could never stop their hoarding mentality even when it was over.

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Re: Is the grey matter of all self-dentified conservatives some sort of guano composite? [Re: qman]
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How did you get here?  I just said workers aren't the only people that can spend money.


Ok?


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Did you forget about the Great Depression?  Maybe you never spoke to your relatives about that era, most of them could never stop their hoarding mentality even when it was over.



The Great Depression is irrelevant.


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Re: Is the grey matter of all self-dentified conservatives some sort of guano composite? [Re: The Ecstatic]
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The Ecstatic said:
Quote:
How did you get here?  I just said workers aren't the only people that can spend money.


Ok?


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Did you forget about the Great Depression?  Maybe you never spoke to your relatives about that era, most of them could never stop their hoarding mentality even when it was over.



The Great Depression is irrelevant.


Yeah. the most significant economic event in recent times is "irrelevant". :facepalm:

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Re: Is the grey matter of all self-dentified conservatives some sort of guano composite? [Re: qman] * 1
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A century ago.

Back when economies were structured much differently. Women didnt work. Urban centers were much smaller. Much much more rural agricultural workers.


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Re: Is the grey matter of all self-dentified conservatives some sort of guano composite? [Re: qman] * 1
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qman said:
The Ecstatic said:
What does it matter? It matters a great deal...


Consumer spending drives our economy and creates jobs.


Example A) CEO makes $10M a year. Buys one lunch a day, buys one car, buys one house, one cell phone, one tv. Stashes everything else either in much lower taxed investments, or in tax shelters outright.

Example B) 200 workers maks $50k a year. Buy 200 lunches a day, 200 cars, 200 houses, 200 cell phones, 200 tvs.


Which do you think is better for the economy? Or does it not matter who spends the money?


Consumers hoard money :lolsy: Thats why they all have massive debt levels, right?


"CEO makes $10 million year"

How did you get here?  I just said workers aren't the only people that can spend money.

"Consumers hoard money"

Did you forget about the Great Depression?  Maybe you never spoke to your relatives about that era, most of them could never stop their hoarding mentality even when it was over.


What is your point here qman???  That we SHOULD continue to give all our money to the rich to help the economy?????


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Re: Is the grey matter of all self-dentified conservatives some sort of guano composite? [Re: Falcon91Wolvrn03]
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Falcon91Wolvrn03 said:
qman said:
The Ecstatic said:
What does it matter? It matters a great deal...


Consumer spending drives our economy and creates jobs.


Example A) CEO makes $10M a year. Buys one lunch a day, buys one car, buys one house, one cell phone, one tv. Stashes everything else either in much lower taxed investments, or in tax shelters outright.

Example B) 200 workers maks $50k a year. Buy 200 lunches a day, 200 cars, 200 houses, 200 cell phones, 200 tvs.


Which do you think is better for the economy? Or does it not matter who spends the money?


Consumers hoard money :lolsy: Thats why they all have massive debt levels, right?


"CEO makes $10 million year"

How did you get here?  I just said workers aren't the only people that can spend money.

"Consumers hoard money"

Did you forget about the Great Depression?  Maybe you never spoke to your relatives about that era, most of them could never stop their hoarding mentality even when it was over.


What is your point here qman???  That we SHOULD continue to give all our money to the rich to help the economy?????


Who's giving "all our money to the rich"?  I don't send money to Gates and Buffett.

We have the largest wealth and income inequality in over 80 years?  That's under Obama's watch, under Hillary that inequality will only grow larger.

Why would you think potentially collecting more Federal taxes would help the working class?  Do you really think they're going to send everyone a monthly check or something?  No, more likely than not they will piss it away on military and technology contracts, helping those shareholders.

You trust the people that created and passed the ACA to redistribute wealth to help the working class?  Not a chance in hell.

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Re: Is the grey matter of all self-dentified conservatives some sort of guano composite? [Re: qman] * 1
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qman said:
Falcon91Wolvrn03 said:
What is your point here qman???  That we SHOULD continue to give all our money to the rich to help the economy?????


Who's giving "all our money to the rich"?  I don't send money to Gates and Buffett.


Our money is going to the rich through huge tax cuts.

qman said:
We have the largest wealth and income inequality in over 80 years?  That's under Obama's watch, under Hillary that inequality will only grow larger.


Only if Hillary continues the devastating tax cuts for the rich.  If Hillary raises taxes on the super wealthy, income inequality will go down.

qman said:
Why would you think potentially collecting more Federal taxes would help the working class?  Do you really think they're going to send everyone a monthly check or something?


You don't think more money for infrastructure, education, medical care, etc. helps the working class?  Wow.

qman said:
You trust the people that created and passed the ACA to redistribute wealth to help the working class?


That's what needs to be done to reduce income inequality.  I would have trusted Bernie to do that, I'm not sure about Hillary, but I KNOW for a fact Trump won't do it.


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Re: Is the grey matter of all self-dentified conservatives some sort of guano composite? [Re: Falcon91Wolvrn03] * 3
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sorry qman, but scapegoating the Democrats doesnt validate whatever version of trickle down youre selling.


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Re: Is the grey matter of all self-dentified conservatives some sort of guano composite? [Re: The Ecstatic] * 1
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:awesomenod:  :whathesaid:


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Re: Is the grey matter of all self-dentified conservatives some sort of guano composite? [Re: The Ecstatic]
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What's your take on Citizen's United? Are you in favor of initiatives to repeal it?


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Re: Is the grey matter of all self-dentified conservatives some sort of guano composite? [Re: Great Scott] * 3
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PeyoteZen said:
What's your take on Citizen's United? Are you in favor of initiatives to repeal it?


Re: The Official "Here's Where i Stand On The Issues" Thread


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Re: Is the grey matter of all self-dentified conservatives some sort of guano composite? [Re: Tipote] * 4
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:thumbup:



Wait, i forgot. One word stances on common issues is TEDIOUS.

Its a lot more efficient if we continue to derail every single thread by repeating ourselves.


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