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liberals vs. conservatives
    #1622442 - 06/10/03 12:14 AM (13 years, 5 months ago)

here's my view on the subject
liberals are more left brained. liberals feel love and compassion for most people regardless of who they are and acknowledge that we are all one and share the same emotions, experiences and that some people can take it and some cant. liberals have a higher level of intuition and "motherly instinct"
conservatives are more right brained and see everything as black and white. they have excessive levels of testosterone. They have a fear and hatred of the unknown and "abnormal". They are compassionless and see others as competition instead of brothers. They live their lives full of hatred and fear and try to impose it on others.


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Re: liberals vs. conservatives [Re: 1stimer]
    #1622450 - 06/10/03 12:17 AM (13 years, 5 months ago)

Geez, man. Even I don't have such a bad outlook on conservatives. The difference between liberals and conservatives is basically this: liberals were raised by liberals and conservatives were raised by conservatives. There are some exceptions, but for the most part it's just how you're raised.


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Re: liberals vs. conservatives [Re: 1stimer]
    #1622462 - 06/10/03 12:20 AM (13 years, 5 months ago)

there are two kinds of people in the world: those who divide everyone into two groups and those who don't



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Re: liberals vs. conservatives [Re: silversoul7]
    #1622479 - 06/10/03 12:23 AM (13 years, 5 months ago)

"Geez, man. Even I don't have such a bad outlook on conservatives"

Sorry to disappoint you.

"liberals were raised by liberals and conservatives were raised by conservatives"
Im a liberal and I was raised by hardcore conservatives.

"There are some exceptions, but for the most part it's just how you're raised"
that is true but ive seen more conservatives have revelations and become liberals than ive seen liberals become conservative. once you're liberal you dont go back.


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Re: liberals vs. conservatives [Re: 1stimer]
    #1622484 - 06/10/03 12:24 AM (13 years, 5 months ago)

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once you're liberal you dont go back.



Tell that to Dennis Miller.


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Re: liberals vs. conservatives [Re: infidelGOD]
    #1622486 - 06/10/03 12:25 AM (13 years, 5 months ago)

"there are two kinds of people in the world: those who divide everyone into two groups and those who don't"

So you are the kind that divides people into two groups then.
in my opinion most liberals dont see things so black and white and dont really consider themselves liberal or democrats. its just easier to talk about to call free thinkers liberals.


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Edited by 1stimer (06/10/03 12:26 AM)


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Re: liberals vs. conservatives [Re: silversoul7]
    #1622495 - 06/10/03 12:27 AM (13 years, 5 months ago)

Yeah i was wrong. Money, power, and greed do make you republican.


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Re: liberals vs. conservatives [Re: 1stimer]
    #1622498 - 06/10/03 12:28 AM (13 years, 5 months ago)

I don't think this is political discussion, but rather an all out name-calling attack.


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Re: liberals vs. conservatives [Re: rommstein2001]
    #1622506 - 06/10/03 12:29 AM (13 years, 5 months ago)

yeah, but it involves politics and it is honestly the way i see and have experienced things, but maybe im jaded.


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Edited by 1stimer (06/10/03 12:29 AM)


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Re: liberals vs. conservatives [Re: 1stimer]
    #1622513 - 06/10/03 12:32 AM (13 years, 5 months ago)

There are several different kinds of liberals and there are several different types of conservatives. Among the liberals, there are environmentalists, socialists, civil rights groups, the "politically correct" crowd(the worst kind of liberal), etc. Among the conservatives, there are the libertarians(I would be one myself if I bought the whole "taxation is theft" premise), the religious right, the big business types, the imperialists(or "neoconservatives" as they're called), etc. This isn't all black-and-white.


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Re: liberals vs. conservatives [Re: silversoul7]
    #1622527 - 06/10/03 12:38 AM (13 years, 5 months ago)

"This isn't all black-and-white."

I think it is more so than you think. go to a gratefull dead concert and see who considers themselves a liberal then go to a catholic church and see how many people are conservatives. people have different personalities but we are all slaves to our brains and its chemicals mainly the side that is dominant.


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Re: liberals vs. conservatives [Re: 1stimer]
    #1622570 - 06/10/03 12:52 AM (13 years, 5 months ago)

Here's my view.

Liberals are more left brained. Liberals feel love and compassion for most people regardless of who they are even to to the point they say it was our fault that someone had to attack us to show how bad we are to the world. The acknowledge that we are all one acknowledge that we are all one but they are little bit more, because they can see the "truth". The rest of us are too dumb to really understand the workings of the world today, because some get it and some dont'. Liberals feeling that they are smarter than other people, makes them feel superior, and since they are obviously the only ones that care about anyone, they are more intuitive, with more of a motherly instinct and everyone know's that "Mom's way is best."

Conservatives are more right brained. Liberals interpret their actions to mean that they look at issues with a view that doesn't allow for enough options to handle problems. They are more decisive, seeing things with a logical simplicity, that just can't be right to liberals. Liberals think conservatives have a fear of the unknown. Actually the only ones who think it is unknown are the liberals. The conservatives have already figured out what to do. Convseratives are viewed as compassionless because they think people should succeed based on their own merit, and not something that was handed out and forced upon the unwilling. THey are also viewed as compassionless because they are willing to kill people that would kill the liberals at the first oppourtunity they had. Liberals sometimes think that Conservatives are full of fear and hatred. But in reality the liberals harbour the hatred of loosing the election(s). Liberals in Texas ran away from work when they didn't like the idea of actually loosing, imposing their will against the majority of voters there.

Obviously these are complete generalizations. Like I have said before, I am liberal on some issues. I would say Libertarians are closest to my way thinking


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Re: liberals vs. conservatives [Re: 1stimer]
    #1622596 - 06/10/03 01:00 AM (13 years, 5 months ago)

Oh and for the record. I used to be a liberal. I got into a debate with a conservative business owner one day and he destroyed every argument I had. I was determined to come back and redeem myself. So I set upon educating myself as much as I could about the issues. And for the most part, I think conservatives in general are usually right. It was hard for me to admit, and change my stance, but after I felt like I was truly educated about stuff. To surmise I think that liberals usually are more interested in ideals than outcomes.


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Re: liberals vs. conservatives [Re: 1stimer]
    #1622623 - 06/10/03 01:06 AM (13 years, 5 months ago)

Conservatives for the most part don't realize that all of exiistance is one entity useing levels of chemical complexity (life) to create phenomoa like consiosness, through which is can expereince itsself.

Therefor hurting others only hurts yourself. that's why there are greedy fucks, they see seperation, and hold money as the absoulte level of self gain, and end up old alone, souless, and bitter, which of course, makes them WORSE.


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Re: liberals vs. conservatives [Re: RadioActiveSlug]
    #1622631 - 06/10/03 01:09 AM (13 years, 5 months ago)

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Conservatives for the most part don't realize that all of exiistance is one entity useing levels of chemical complexity (life) to create phenomoa like consiosness, through which is can expereince itsself.



This has nothing to do with liberalism or conservatism. This is the same kind of ludicrous assumption that pinksharkmark made when he assumed that my socialist beliefs were related to my belief in moral subjectivism.


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Re: liberals vs. conservatives [Re: 1stimer]
    #1622643 - 06/10/03 01:13 AM (13 years, 5 months ago)

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liberals are more left brained.



The whole left brained/right brained stuff is pop psychology. There is a structure known as the corpus callosum - look it up.

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liberals feel love and compassion for most people regardless of who they are and acknowledge that we are all one and share the same emotions, experiences and that some people can take it and some cant.



Sounds like a lot of conservatives I know.

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liberals have a higher level of intuition and "motherly instinct"



Sounds like a lot of female conservatives I know.

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conservatives are more right brained



See comments about liberals being left brained.

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...and see everything as black and white



Sort of like your liberal conservative dichotomy.

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they have excessive levels of testosterone.



This is silly. Do you have any medical data to back this up? Do you even know what you are talking about?

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They have a fear and hatred of the unknown and "abnormal".



Sort of like the liberal fears of firearms, personal responsibility, private charity, home schooling, prayer, traditional morality, religious upbringing and succesful business people.

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They are compassionless and see others as competition instead of brothers.



You really don't personally know many conservatives do you?

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They live their lives full of hatred and fear and try to impose it on others.



Funny, that sounds strangely like a lot of liberals.


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Re: liberals vs. conservatives [Re: HagbardCeline]
    #1622651 - 06/10/03 01:19 AM (13 years, 5 months ago)

Can you just list off the top of your head what the conservatives are right about? I'd certainly like to know.


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Re: liberals vs. conservatives [Re: ]
    #1622666 - 06/10/03 01:27 AM (13 years, 5 months ago)

just a quick-reply before I read thru everything...
Libertarians are right-winged but NOT conservative.


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Re: liberals vs. conservatives [Re: rommstein2001]
    #1622667 - 06/10/03 01:29 AM (13 years, 5 months ago)

I'm confused? What do libertarians have to do with what I asked?


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Re: liberals vs. conservatives [Re: ]
    #1622673 - 06/10/03 01:31 AM (13 years, 5 months ago)

It was a quick-reply, not to you but rather to silversoul.


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