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Re: Thoughts on God from the Psychedelic Abyss [Re: deranger]
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That's true, I don't think I've ever noticed you making a good post.:shrug: Good thing you caught that.:satansmoking:


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"Don't believe everything you think". -Anom.

" All that lives was born to die"-Anom.

With much wisdom comes much sorrow,
The more knowledge, the more grief.
Ecclesiastes circa 350 BC

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Re: Thoughts on God from the Psychedelic Abyss [Re: Icelander]
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:lol:

Yeah I'm so lame and boring.  My originality prevents me from writing anything good nowadays. :gethigh:

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Re: Thoughts on God from the Psychedelic Abyss [Re: deranger]
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:satansmoking: Good is for people who can't handle great.:thumbup:


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"Don't believe everything you think". -Anom.

" All that lives was born to die"-Anom.

With much wisdom comes much sorrow,
The more knowledge, the more grief.
Ecclesiastes circa 350 BC

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Re: Thoughts on God from the Psychedelic Abyss [Re: Icelander]
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:mushroom2:

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Re: Thoughts on God from the Psychedelic Abyss [Re: deranger]
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deranger said:
:mushroom2:



And don't forget the acid.:wink:


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"Don't believe everything you think". -Anom.

" All that lives was born to die"-Anom.

With much wisdom comes much sorrow,
The more knowledge, the more grief.
Ecclesiastes circa 350 BC

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Re: Thoughts on God from the Psychedelic Abyss [Re: Psychonot2329]
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Soren Kierkegaard said:
"If there were no eternal consciousness in a man, if at the bottom of everything there were only a wild ferment, a power that twisting in dark passions produced everything great or inconsequential; if an unfathomable, insatiable emptiness lay hid beneath everything, what would life be but despair?" Soren Kierkegaard



The fact that life is not all despair is not an argument for the existence of eternal consciousness. Nor is this valid in saying it's absence must be despair.

Personally im a fan of that very same "wild ferment, a power that twisting in dark passions produced everything great or inconsequential". But there again, we all have our thoughts now, don't we?


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Thousands of candles can be lit from a single candle, and the life of the candle will not be shortened.
Happiness never decreases by being shared. - Prince Gautama Siddharta, the founder of Buddhism, 563-483 B.C.

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Re: Thoughts on God from the Psychedelic Abyss [Re: deranger]
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deranger said:
you must be referring to another poster



well yeah, I meant the OP was pretty good


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Re: Thoughts on God from the Psychedelic Abyss [Re: deranger]
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ditto!

i love love love that chapter. 

being raised catholic, i can't help but cringe when the word god is used.  i am getting better though, and don't mind if its used, so long as it's not referring to some jovial bearded character sitting on high handing out orders to the chosen ones.


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Re: Thoughts on God from the Psychedelic Abyss [Re: Icelander]
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Icelander said:
Yes IMO, You're missing my suggestion or at least the reason

behind it. It doesn't matter if he knows the difference and you know the difference and I know the difference. Most of humanity does not. Most of humanity is invested in a certain concept of god, one that mostly resembles their individual religion. And the battle over who's god is the "true" one has caused untold misery in the word. My suggestion to him is to drop that word to avoid feeding that shit. I don't disagree with most of his points and think they are good ones. :shrug:



i get it.  how about you use whatever word you want to describe it, and everyone else will use whatever term they want??

a rose by any other name, eh????

NATURALLY, i am keen on "Tao"


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Re: Thoughts on God from the Psychedelic Abyss [Re: yogabunny]
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Well I prefer not to be selfish like you and think of the tender lads and lassies who might be taken in by the god concept.


(just kidding):lol: Well, not totally, I do worry about them sometimes but it's really not any of my business.

I like Tao or Nagual. If you don't know that second term you will once you read the forth Castaneda book. Once you read that I doubt you will ever call anything god again.


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"Don't believe everything you think". -Anom.

" All that lives was born to die"-Anom.

With much wisdom comes much sorrow,
The more knowledge, the more grief.
Ecclesiastes circa 350 BC

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Re: Thoughts on God from the Psychedelic Abyss [Re: Icelander]
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i recall the term nagual.  i found a friend who is going to loan me the fourth book, but i feel like i should probably re-read the 3rd first.


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Re: Thoughts on God from the Psychedelic Abyss [Re: Icelander]
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Icelander said:
Psychonot2329 said:
Icelander said:
the, "boundless void containing all, Where all is light: No start, no end,

For this to be true no "god" is needed.

But you really didn't get what I was saying, WE DON'T NEED NO FUCKING GOD.:satansmoking:



I dont think you read or comprehended anything I wrote. When I wrote of "God" I mean it in the sense of Tao. Its not in the sense of the Christian fundamentalists; its transcendent. Its not something we can pray to, its not something that thinks and acts in the sense we know of.



I completely understood what you wrote. I suggested we get rid of that abused word god. If you like Tao then use that. Anything but god. If you don't know that the word god is abused all over the place then you just haven't been paying attention.




You've consistently been complaining about a word choice that I explained in the post itself...but, I'd like to know your thoughts on the topic, aside from a clear bias against a word.

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Re: Thoughts on God from the Psychedelic Abyss [Re: Icelander]
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Icelander said:
Yes IMO, You're missing my suggestion or at least the reason behind it. It doesn't matter if he knows the difference and you know the difference and I know the difference. Most of humanity does not. Most of humanity is invested in a certain concept of god, one that mostly resembles their individual religion. And the battle over who's god is the "true" one has caused untold misery in the word. My suggestion to him is to drop that word to avoid feeding that shit. I don't disagree with most of his points and think they are good ones. :shrug:



"Most of humanity" is exactly whom we psychonauts need to reach out to. They have the capacity to realize that "God" is another word for "Tao" and whatever word humanity has tried to use to linguistically confine the "force"/"power" that flows through all being.

And, to whom am I feeding "god" to on shroomery? I would imagine most on here understand what I was talking about and werent mortified and stopped by the use of the word "god"--which has as much relevance and meaning and value as "tao" or any other word we can think of.

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Re: Thoughts on God from the Psychedelic Abyss [Re: Psychonot2329]
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Wonderful!!! Well said... :lighter:

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Re: Thoughts on God from the Psychedelic Abyss [Re: Psychonot2329]
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Psychonot2329 said:
Icelander said:
Psychonot2329 said:
Icelander said:
the, "boundless void containing all, Where all is light: No start, no end,

For this to be true no "god" is needed.

But you really didn't get what I was saying, WE DON'T NEED NO FUCKING GOD.:satansmoking:



I dont think you read or comprehended anything I wrote. When I wrote of "God" I mean it in the sense of Tao. Its not in the sense of the Christian fundamentalists; its transcendent. Its not something we can pray to, its not something that thinks and acts in the sense we know of.



I completely understood what you wrote. I suggested we get rid of that abused word god. If you like Tao then use that. Anything but god. If you don't know that the word god is abused all over the place then you just haven't been paying attention.




You've consistently been complaining about a word choice that I explained in the post itself...but, I'd like to know your thoughts on the topic, aside from a clear bias against a word.



You've consistently been complaining about a word choice that I explained in the post itself.

Self centered much? And I already answered your question. Your ideas here are not new at all. I agree with some of them but to comment beyond that would be just more blah blah for me.


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"Don't believe everything you think". -Anom.

" All that lives was born to die"-Anom.

With much wisdom comes much sorrow,
The more knowledge, the more grief.
Ecclesiastes circa 350 BC

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Re: Thoughts on God from the Psychedelic Abyss [Re: Icelander]
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Quote:
I like Tao or Nagual



Big TaoNail?


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Re: Thoughts on God from the Psychedelic Abyss [Re: OrgoneConclusion]
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:thumbup:

Any would that personifies is a bad idea IMO.


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"Don't believe everything you think". -Anom.

" All that lives was born to die"-Anom.

With much wisdom comes much sorrow,
The more knowledge, the more grief.
Ecclesiastes circa 350 BC

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Re: Thoughts on God from the Psychedelic Abyss [Re: Icelander]
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To use what you said: "Your ideas here are not new at all." Of course not. Everything that we will ever say or think of have been thought of or said.
You say you agree with some of them, well, could you discuss it?
You say its "blah blah for" you. You're on a forum called shroomery. With thousands of posts. You have time and have done a lot of "blah blah"'ing.
Don't pretend you're some shit

Proceed.

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Re: Thoughts on God from the Psychedelic Abyss [Re: Psychonot2329]
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Nicely stated!


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γνῶθι σαὐτόν - Gnothi Seauton - Know Thyself

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Re: Thoughts on God from the Psychedelic Abyss [Re: Psychonot2329]
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Psychonot2329 said:
To use what you said: "Your ideas here are not new at all." Of course not. Everything that we will ever say or think of have been thought of or said.
You say you agree with some of them, well, could you discuss it?
You say its "blah blah for" you. You're on a forum called shroomery. With thousands of posts. You have time and have done a lot of "blah blah"'ing.
Don't pretend you're some shit

Proceed.




I'm just saying your thread does not interest me at this time. On another day it might but I rarely get into things I agree with unless I have a big insight to add. And I don't. I gave my two cents and it went right past you. I'm satisfied.


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"Don't believe everything you think". -Anom.

" All that lives was born to die"-Anom.

With much wisdom comes much sorrow,
The more knowledge, the more grief.
Ecclesiastes circa 350 BC

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