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Re: If God really wants us to believe in him... [Re: Baby_Hitler]
    #1518339 - 05/03/03 09:18 PM (21 years, 1 month ago)

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Right. Like the leprechauns.




Yes. EXACTLY like the Leprechauns.

they are the Elementals that create matter on a sub-atomic level,
they work under the administration of the Elohim, or Trinitized Agents of Creation.
in the Center of the Holographic Torroidal Multiverse, there does exist a primary Personalized Causual Agency ie. God.

it seems to me that God is the Projector of the Hologram or the thinker of the thought, Formless Form creating Form...
Everything is Consciousness, nothing exists BUT God... why are YOU hiding?
it it is "i" that has the choice of recognizing the source as Other or Self.

for an experiencial validation of these speculations,
i recommend you learn how to extract DMT and vaporize a heroic dose.



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Re: If God really wants us to believe in him... [Re: SWAY]
    #1518376 - 05/03/03 09:45 PM (21 years, 1 month ago)

SWAY: "You just indirectly insulted the Author/Creator of the bible, which i'd suppose would be god.. right? Nice job insulting god lol "
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There is alot of politics involved with the BIBLE.  The ones who had control back then made sure that they remain in control...  even if it meant dishonour.

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I said: "The way you talk makes it obvious that you still have much to learn and consider."

To which SWAY replies: "...i should say, not to mean any offense, but i think when you say that that it.. seems like you think your all knowing....
.....for cutting my tongue out before i talk anymore.....
.....well it seems to me that you just labeled yourself superior over me..."
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:shocked:  [DEEP BREATH]

Ok... First of all...  I appologize for that particular wording. I should have considered your possible interpretation... I'm sorry; I was pressed for time while doing several things at once.

When I said that, I was refering to the book (the one where people believe less in themselves you were refering to writing).  That is not what I was implying at all...

AND... I was not insulting anyone as you say: "You just indirectly insulted the Author/Creator of the bible, which i'd suppose would be god..."

The way that those words in the BIBLE are presented, I tell you, it is exactly how it was supposed to be (... And I'm not at all saying that to sound profound).

Again, sorry about the tongue you seem to think has been cut out... *clicketty-click*... it has just been re-attached.  :grin:

Lastly, it was you who labelled me in that way; not I. 

LOL  ... The technique that I used when I replied to you was that of "tough love"... Like a friendly "charlie-horse".  I thought you could take it.

I'll choose my wording differently towards you in the future.

........  STILL FRIENDS?  :tongue:

 


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Re: If God really wants us to believe in him... [Re: Sombie]
    #1518384 - 05/03/03 09:54 PM (21 years, 1 month ago)

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Do you beleive Napoleon lived?




Yes.


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Re: If God really wants us to believe in him... [Re: Baby_Hitler]
    #1518428 - 05/03/03 10:12 PM (21 years, 1 month ago)

Why? Have you ever seen him?


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Re: If God really wants us to believe in him... [Re: Sombie]
    #1518496 - 05/03/03 10:40 PM (21 years, 1 month ago)

ofcourse we will always be friends!

and nice reply, but you still forgot that you went AGAINST* your own words when you labeled* yourself the teacher and labeled* me the student, you still arent all knowing, now respond to that!

I'll choose my wording differently too..

Funny how no matter how you word something that it can be seen in any way shape or form..., hmm.. now maybe that also applies to the bible (meaning if seen through certain eyes it is worded wrong or is an evil book or supports evil things)

healthy arguments like this can be good if we learn something from eachother


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Re: If God really wants us to believe in him... [Re: Baby_Hitler]
    #1518507 - 05/03/03 10:45 PM (21 years, 1 month ago)

Dude, you are God. He's not hiding.


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Re: If God really wants us to believe in him... [Re: Sombie]
    #1518550 - 05/03/03 11:11 PM (21 years, 1 month ago)

I've seen people before.

I believe Jesus may have existed, but I'm not sure I buy the whole messiah/Son of God story.

There's nothing unbelievable about Napoleon.

If I told you I went to Wal-Mart today, would you believe me?

If I told you I went to Wal-Mart on Neptune via a hyperspacial wormhole, and returned before I left, would you believe me?

Why not? Haven't you ever been to Wal-Mart before?


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Re: If God really wants us to believe in him... [Re: Baby_Hitler]
    #1518613 - 05/03/03 11:49 PM (21 years, 1 month ago)

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Re: If God really wants us to believe in him... [Re: World Spirit]
    #1518731 - 05/04/03 01:02 AM (21 years, 1 month ago)

i did'nt read all the above stuff so please disregard my post if it's already been said.

The answer is very simple. God is not hiding, God is everywere in everything. People are just blind to this for whatever reason. Psychedelics can open our eyes to this fact.


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Re: If God really wants us to believe in him... [Re: thestringphish]
    #1518741 - 05/04/03 01:05 AM (21 years, 1 month ago)

How do you know psychedelics don't conceal God even further?


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Re: If God really wants us to believe in him... [Re: bert]
    #1518746 - 05/04/03 01:07 AM (21 years, 1 month ago)

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Re: If God really wants us to believe in him... [Re: World Spirit]
    #1518752 - 05/04/03 01:10 AM (21 years, 1 month ago)

Right, but he said 'God is in everything.' So does that mean psychedelics can affect God? Or do psychedelics amplify our perception of God?


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Re: If God really wants us to believe in him... [Re: bert]
    #1518761 - 05/04/03 01:14 AM (21 years, 1 month ago)

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Re: If God really wants us to believe in him... [Re: World Spirit]
    #1518769 - 05/04/03 01:18 AM (21 years, 1 month ago)

Ahh, ok. So God exists solely independant of our consciousness? Otherwise, by taking psychedelics, we'd be affecting God. Which is, of course, blasphemous.


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Re: If God really wants us to believe in him... [Re: SWAY]
    #1518853 - 05/04/03 02:12 AM (21 years, 1 month ago)

SWAY:"nice reply, but you still forgot that you went AGAINST* your own words when you labeled* yourself the teacher and labeled* me the student, you still arent all knowing, now respond to that!"
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I'll reply to you by quoting myself: "Lastly, it was you who labelled me in that way; not I." 

There is no reason to take that any further, SWAY.

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SWAY:"Funny how no matter how you word something that it can be seen in any way shape or form..., hmm.. now maybe that also applies to the bible..."
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Hold that thought!  You are on to something here!    :blush:

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SWAY:"healthy arguments like this can be good if we learn something from eachother "
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I couldn't agree more !


 


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Re: If God really wants us to believe in him... [Re: bert]
    #1518856 - 05/04/03 02:17 AM (21 years, 1 month ago)

God IS everything God is IN everything. I am god and You are God. This is something all of us know, even if we are not consciously aware of it. Sometimes we become awakend to this knowledge without the use of psychedelics, sometimes we do it with psychedelics, and for some people, this is never realized. When it is, it is a form of enlightenment whether it came about from psychedelics or otherwise. You can awaken yourself through other avenues, such as meditation and Zazen. The Use of Psychedelics is just a shortcut.


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Re: If God really wants us to believe in him... [Re: thestringphish]
    #1518861 - 05/04/03 02:23 AM (21 years, 1 month ago)

Psychedelics amplify or preception of god, but i guess you could say they also affect god. like shining a lite on a plant in a dark room amplifys our preception of the plant, and also affects the plant, so it is with god.


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Re: If God really wants us to believe in him... [Re: thestringphish]
    #1518864 - 05/04/03 02:25 AM (21 years, 1 month ago)

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Re: If God really wants us to believe in him... [Re: Baby_Hitler]
    #1519906 - 05/04/03 04:58 PM (21 years, 1 month ago)

Ok so, we agree Jesus lived, now my question to you is, if someone raised themselves from the dead, would you beleive that he is special in some way?

(regardless if you think Jesus was raised from the dead, we will get on to that in a second)


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Re: If God really wants us to believe in him... [Re: Sombie]
    #1520129 - 05/04/03 06:38 PM (21 years, 1 month ago)

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