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Unfolding Nature Shop: Unfolding Nature: Being in the Implicate Order

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Re: Astral projecting [Re: ElectricJW]
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I know it is real, along with many many other Astral Projectors, just practice working on your chakras, (this is easier than A.P.) just to see if its true.

And yet here you are yakking on the Shroomery even though if you could actually do what you say you can do, you could win millions of dollars on the table for the first person in history to actually do this under controlled conditions where they can't fool themselves and they can't cheat.

What are you waiting for? I just will never understand how so many people talk and talk about their powers, but they NEVER actually go put it to the test and win tons of money.

WHAT ARE YOU WAITING FOR?

Here are three for starters that will make you rich unless, of course, you're talking bullshit like every other Astral Projector I've ever encountered.

The Premanand Challenge:
http://www.indian-skeptic.org/html/rules.htm

The Australian Skeptics Challenge:
http://www.skeptics.com.au/features/challenge.htm

The Science and Rationalists' Challenge:
http://humanists.net/avijit/prabir/sra.htm

Get to it!

If you win, not only will you rock the planet to its core and become rich and famous, but I'll even become your first groupie.

What are you waiting for??

What are you waiting for????


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Republican Values:

1) You can't get married to your spouse who is the same sex as you.
2) You can't have an abortion no matter how much you don't want a child.
3) You can't have a certain plant in your possession or you'll get locked up with a rapist and a murderer.

4) We need a smaller, less-intrusive government.

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Re: Astral projecting [Re: figgusfiddus]
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figgusfiddus said:
Anything is say-able. Many things are impossible. Try them.

"Buddhism" is not a magic word that makes your bullshit real. Buddhism is an age-old philosophy with an element of mythology, like Christianity, Judaism, or Hinduism. It's another religion. I know you folks don't like to hear this, but just something being considered exotic doesn't make it any more true.


I wasn't talking about religion; that's what is caused by ignorance believing Buddhism is just another religion in which you worship. I'm just talking about "mind-science," if you will; autotheism, which is similar to buddhist teachings.


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What Is Buddhism?
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Re: Astral projecting [Re: mkc]
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It's human nature to criticize what once does not understand. I have never astral projected, but the possibility of such a thing seems more likely the deeper I look into reality.

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Re: Astral projecting [Re: thedudenj]
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thedudenj said:
good observation the key to amanita is being in tune then you will synch intune to everything else and astral projection will happen easier or other world travel. also drink a bit of milk with em and bless the milk.
as i said other people have encountered me when doing this so its legit astral projection. its funny cause they were not prepared and i hit em at random. but if you wanna try something like that you probally i have to have a close connect to that person and be skilled in travel and energy


Thanks for the info.

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Re: Astral projecting [Re: Diploid]
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Diploid said:
I know it is real, along with many many other Astral Projectors, just practice working on your chakras, (this is easier than A.P.) just to see if its true.


What are you waiting for? I just will never understand how so many people talk and talk about their powers, but they NEVER actually go put it to the test and win tons of money.





What are YOU waiting for? I will never understand how so many people Try to say anything out of the norm is fake but they never actually try it themselves to put it to the test and maybe enlighten themselves.

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Re: Astral projecting [Re: SurCal]
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Jesus Christ.

He's the one saying it's bullshit. You guys are the ones saying it's real and possible and easy, if you know how. So why not do it, and prove everyone wrong? Why would HE try to do something he knows very well is mindless nonsense?


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Re: Astral projecting [Re: SurCal]
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What are YOU waiting for? I will never understand how so many people Try to say anything out of the norm is fake but they never actually try it themselves to put it to the test and maybe enlighten themselves.

I have tried it. It didn't work.

I tested other people who SWORE to me it works. Every single one failed when controls to ensure accurate results were put in place.

So I ask you again: if you can do this, why are you wasting time on the Shroomery when you could be getting rich? Why are you making erroneous assumptions about what I've tried and what I haven't tried instead of getting rich?

Eh? What are you waiting for?

Or is TALKING all you can really do, just like everyone else who claims to have these powers but can't demonstrate them.

My guess is all you can do it talk. Prove me wrong. Please.


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Republican Values:

1) You can't get married to your spouse who is the same sex as you.
2) You can't have an abortion no matter how much you don't want a child.
3) You can't have a certain plant in your possession or you'll get locked up with a rapist and a murderer.

4) We need a smaller, less-intrusive government.

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Re: Astral projecting [Re: Diploid]
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how do you expect to the scientist to capture astral travel?


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Re: Astral projecting [Re: thedudenj]
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how do you expect to the scientist to capture astral travel?

I've said this a dozen times. It's a simple test.

Open a phone book to some random page and put it in the next room.

If the astral traveler can actually do what he says he can do, it should be a simple matter to 'travel' to the next room and report back the page number.

How is it that people here talk and talk and talk about how easy this is to do, but not a single one has ever done it... not even when there are a million bucks up for grabs. :shake:


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Republican Values:

1) You can't get married to your spouse who is the same sex as you.
2) You can't have an abortion no matter how much you don't want a child.
3) You can't have a certain plant in your possession or you'll get locked up with a rapist and a murderer.

4) We need a smaller, less-intrusive government.

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Re: Astral projecting [Re: Diploid]
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hmm true that. i only go to other relams or some random ass place in this one with people as i said i can rip people out of this world and to i am where they can see me and stuff


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"You all are just  puppets... You have no heart...and cannot feel any pain...""
you may think thats pain you feel but you must have a heart to feel true pain and that pain wont be yours

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Re: Astral projecting [Re: thedudenj]
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i only go to other relams

Then how can you know it's really another realm and not just some imagined place?


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Republican Values:

1) You can't get married to your spouse who is the same sex as you.
2) You can't have an abortion no matter how much you don't want a child.
3) You can't have a certain plant in your possession or you'll get locked up with a rapist and a murderer.

4) We need a smaller, less-intrusive government.

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Re: Astral projecting [Re: Diploid]
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Diploid said:
What are YOU waiting for? I will never understand how so many people Try to say anything out of the norm is fake but they never actually try it themselves to put it to the test and maybe enlighten themselves.

I have tried it. It didn't work.





Yea same here lol.

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Re: Astral projecting [Re: SurCal]
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So, you're NOT collecting the prize money because...?

This is the fourth time I've asked you.


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Republican Values:

1) You can't get married to your spouse who is the same sex as you.
2) You can't have an abortion no matter how much you don't want a child.
3) You can't have a certain plant in your possession or you'll get locked up with a rapist and a murderer.

4) We need a smaller, less-intrusive government.

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Re: Astral projecting [Re: Diploid]
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That's called hallucinating. Or dreaming. Or being full of it. Sorry, Diploid has you over his knee here.


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Re: Astral projecting [Re: figgusfiddus]
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well shurg i guess i can make people mass hallucinate and thats still a cool thing then:smirk:


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"You all are just  puppets... You have no heart...and cannot feel any pain...""
you may think thats pain you feel but you must have a heart to feel true pain and that pain wont be yours

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Re: Astral projecting [Re: thedudenj]
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Okay, do it in an observable and reproducable way. We've discussed this.

You can't, can you? So what's this all about?


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Re: Astral projecting [Re: figgusfiddus]
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yeah thats what medicine men do lol... they use their magic powers and shit to heal people as i do


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"You all are just  puppets... You have no heart...and cannot feel any pain...""
you may think thats pain you feel but you must have a heart to feel true pain and that pain wont be yours

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Re: Astral projecting [Re: thedudenj]
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Are you sure you aren't confusing your WoW account with reality again?

I'm talking about doing it in a lab environment. If you can really cause other people to see you projecting yourself in some way, as you said above, or if you can really see things that are outside of the room you're sitting in, you could prove these things objectively, once and for all. But you won't. Because you can't. Prove me wrong.


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Re: Astral projecting [Re: Diploid]
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Do you not understand what I was saying. I guess since you believe it be fake, that you believe that its that easy to do the phonebook thing.

Like I said, things are appear slightly different than what they normally are (like you might see 2 phone books, instead of seeing 1) the reason is b/c in this reality, or the "real-time zone" it isn't as stable,if you will, as the true Astral Realms, which are right after the "real-time zone".

This right here is why it wouldn't work. And quit saying this is bullshit when you have never done it, so you don't even know if its true or not.


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"Visualize the action, then actualize the vision." - King of the Hill

“Long you live and high you'll fly and smiles you'll give and tears you'll cry and all you touch and all you see is all your life will ever be.”- Pink Floyd

Edited by ElectricJW (06/27/07 06:39 PM)

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Re: Astral projecting [Re: ElectricJW]
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Quote:
...professional parapsychologists and moderate skeptics like former CSICOP cochairman Prof. Marcello Truzzi, sociologist at Eastern Michigan University, have questioned the Committee's commitment to objective, scientific investigation of paranormal claims and have accused some CSICOP spokesmen of misrepresenting issues and evidence...


http://cura.free.fr/xv/14starbb.html

Quote:
Former CSICOP staff member Dennis Rawlins resigned after finding hard evidence of CSICOP intentionally suppressing its own findings which supported astrology (known as the "file drawer effect") during one of their initial investigations of Michel Gauquelin’s statistical research, thus proving the organization's true agenda was simply to discredit/debunk in any way possible rather than to find the truth, in order to appease its subscribers. You can read Rawlins' report “sTARBABY” at http://cura.free.fr/xv/14starbb.html.


http://www.happierabroad.com/Debunking_Skeptical_Arguments/Page30.htm

^This last link has some good stuff on how Randi only accepts certain people, and even some of his former committee members has spoken out about how they alter the evidence.


Here goes a very very easy one they could of tested, but he declined:

http://www.alternativescience.com/randi-retreats.htm

Also here goes another interesting article that was reported by CNN World News, November 5, 1992 :
http://indiatravelogue.com/pass/spec/refl7.html

There were also thousands of witnesses, there too.


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"Visualize the action, then actualize the vision." - King of the Hill

“Long you live and high you'll fly and smiles you'll give and tears you'll cry and all you touch and all you see is all your life will ever be.”- Pink Floyd

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