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Re: Astral projecting [Re: figgusfiddus]
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theres people that survive failed parachutes... any who physical death tends to result in being reborn into this world just to relive the same life in a differnt enviroment. the whole world must evovle


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"You all are just  puppets... You have no heart...and cannot feel any pain...""
you may think thats pain you feel but you must have a heart to feel true pain and that pain wont be yours

Edited by thedudenj (06/23/07 12:52 PM)

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Re: Astral projecting [Re: thedudenj]
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thedudenj said:
http://www.buryatmongol.com/sibshamanism.html

http://www.shamana.co.uk/siberian_shamanism/index.html

these ovbiously arent the best sources but still they are sources you cant arguee with a peoples culture. what next are you gona say elvis was the first person to ever do rock and roll... and forget all the black people that were doing it first.

or better that BBQ orginated in the hood.

reguardless of wether you belive or not things have orgins and this is a fact and cant be changed.



Lol ey fool i think you get to into this shit no one said anything about rock'nroll or bbq haha.

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Re: Astral projecting [Re: Huehuecoyotl]
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Huehuecoyotl said:
Don't underestimate the mind. I move things with my mind quite often. Recently I used the power of thought to transport myself nearly 2000 miles like it was nothing.



No, it's true. People with delusional psychosis do it all the time. Don't underestimate the power of the mind!


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Re: Astral projecting [Re: thedudenj]
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thedudenj said:
theres people that survive failed parachutes... any who physical death tends to result in being reborn into this world just to relive the same life in a differnt enviroment. the whole world must evovle



The whole world must evolve. What a meaningless statement.

I prefer, "A pinhead will survive." And I'm not talking about the parachute.


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Re: Astral projecting [Re: SurCal]
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SurCal said:
thedudenj said:
http://www.buryatmongol.com/sibshamanism.html

http://www.shamana.co.uk/siberian_shamanism/index.html

these ovbiously arent the best sources but still they are sources you cant arguee with a peoples culture. what next are you gona say elvis was the first person to ever do rock and roll... and forget all the black people that were doing it first.

or better that BBQ orginated in the hood.

reguardless of wether you belive or not things have orgins and this is a fact and cant be changed.



Lol ey fool i think you get to into this shit no one said anything about rock'nroll or bbq haha.



its an example chap...
why dont you read devine mushroom of imortality


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you may think thats pain you feel but you must have a heart to feel true pain and that pain wont be yours

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Re: Astral projecting [Re: thedudenj]
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Divine Mushroom of Immortality?



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Re: Astral projecting [Re: figgusfiddus]
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"You all are just  puppets... You have no heart...and cannot feel any pain...""
you may think thats pain you feel but you must have a heart to feel true pain and that pain wont be yours

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Re: Astral projecting [Re: figgusfiddus]
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figgusfiddus said:
SurCal said:
figgusfiddus said:
Quote:
If you truly beleive youve been cured then your going to be healed.





In the case of your friend (or was it a friend of a friend? Friend of a friend's friend? Someone a friend saw on television?), I say it is far more likely that he, you, or I have been deceived whether by error or deliberate misrepresentation at some point down the chain of events.

This is why people should demand excellent proof of an extraordinary event. Of course, they do not demand that kind of proof, because stories of extraordinary and impossible events add hope and mystery to people's lives.



I think i made it pretty clear by saying he was my friend. Ive known him since we were kids. Next time i see him ill ask him for the before and after MRI scans and pm them to you so you can have "extrodinary proof".



I don't suspect that you will actually post those scans. Additionally, I'd have to speak with every doctor he had. Finally, after doing all these things, there would still be the very real probability that he recovered due to non-miraculous circumstances. That would be improbable, yes, but still far, far, far, far, far more probable than motherfucking MAGIC being the answer. Unless Siegfried and Roy were involved, because those guys are for real. *snicker*



I would pm them not post.

Miraculous is a perspective.

Magic?

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Re: Astral projecting [Re: thedudenj]
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thedudenj said:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/R._Gordon_Wasson



Since your basically the pinche godfather of fly agaric mushrooms here, can you tell me about there effects? How long do they last? And the proper ways of ingesting them. Because everyone on erowid is taking like 30g of fly agarics and your taking like 3. I no those people are just ignorant on what to do with them so can you enlighten me with your knowledge of them lol.

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Re: Astral projecting [Re: SurCal]
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Miraculous isn't a perspective, it's actually pretty well defined as anything that is considered impossible according to our understanding of natural laws. Supernatural, in other words--not just based on material principles we don't understand, but based on powers above the very notion of understanding.

I, meanwhile, say the probability of this being a by-the-books miracle is zero. The odds that it was a natural recovery which occurred on the fringes of normal probability due to natural factors not understood are considerable (for one-in-a-thousand odds, there is still one per thousand for which they occur). The odds that some error or, less likely, deception or exaggeration, is involved are also considerable.


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Re: Astral projecting [Re: SurCal]
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SurCal said:
thedudenj said:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/R._Gordon_Wasson



Since your basically the pinche godfather of fly agaric mushrooms here, can you tell me about there effects? How long do they last? And the proper ways of ingesting them. Because everyone on erowid is taking like 30g of fly agarics and your taking like 3. I no those people are just ignorant on what to do with them so can you enlighten me with your knowledge of them lol.



he he one thing tho Wasson never had a true amanita trip. you really need someone that uses real magic to take you there and you have to be receptive to it. and yeah im all about 1g-9g and no more cause any more would be a waste or 1 mushroom a person. well as i have said somewhere its all about summoning the spirit and getting in synch with it rather then fighting it or ignoring it like most people.
its kinda like a prude girl that you know few people fuck cause its hard to cause how prude she is. compared to a slut that does any one and how good it is depends on whether shes just satisfying her self using or she actually wants you and to satisfy you and her at the same time.
i learned abit of how amanita work from a short Russian girl of that Siberian like Russian the ones that are like Asian but Russian. understanding that mind greatly helped me understand amanita she was like she was permenately on them


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"You all are just  puppets... You have no heart...and cannot feel any pain...""
you may think thats pain you feel but you must have a heart to feel true pain and that pain wont be yours

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Re: Astral projecting [Re: thedudenj]
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thedudenj said:
SurCal said:
thedudenj said:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/R._Gordon_Wasson



Since your basically the pinche godfather of fly agaric mushrooms here, can you tell me about there effects? How long do they last? And the proper ways of ingesting them. Because everyone on erowid is taking like 30g of fly agarics and your taking like 3. I no those people are just ignorant on what to do with them so can you enlighten me with your knowledge of them lol.



he he one thing tho Wasson never had a true amanita trip. you really need someone that uses real magic to take you there and you have to be receptive to it. and yeah im all about 1g-9g and no more cause any more would be a waste or 1 mushroom a person. well as i have said somewhere its all about summoning the spirit and getting in synch with it rather then fighting it or ignoring it like most people.
its kinda like a prude girl that you know few people fuck cause its hard to cause how prude she is. compared to a slut that does any one and how good it is depends on whether shes just satisfying her self using or she actually wants you and to satisfy you and her at the same time.
i learned abit of how amanita work from a short Russian girl of that Siberian like Russian the ones that are like Asian but Russian. understanding that mind greatly helped me understand amanita she was like she was permenately on them



So I would have to learn how to recognize the aminitas effects from a low dose? and as i keep trying too, the effects will get stronger because ill be more intune with it?
Thanks for your info.

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Re: Astral projecting [Re: SurCal]
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That would be a responsible approach to any and every drug. It's called "caution".


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Re: Astral projecting [Re: figgusfiddus]
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Moderation is key in ALL things. You find the right moderation...goddamnit...what was I gonna' say? Nevermind...


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My favorites are weeping willows, which aren't really weeping at all. They're very wispy, witty and will dance in the breeze with you. Nothing like a tree that wants to dance with you. Although it doesn't like its thin limbs being pulled at all, it absolutely LOVES it when you walk through them, letting them gently slide over your face and shoulders. If you're naked, the willow considers it to be sex. It will orgasm on your mind and you will blow dream chunks into outer space. All very fun until your neighbor sees you.                                    -The Joekenorer

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Re: Astral projecting [Re: joekenorer]
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Moderation is for monks.

Caution is for those who want to find a good balance between living well and dying young.


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Re: Astral projecting [Re: figgusfiddus]
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Are you attacking my credo? Caution is for crickets!

Moderation will win. Thats that. Screw caution, pick moderation.


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My favorites are weeping willows, which aren't really weeping at all. They're very wispy, witty and will dance in the breeze with you. Nothing like a tree that wants to dance with you. Although it doesn't like its thin limbs being pulled at all, it absolutely LOVES it when you walk through them, letting them gently slide over your face and shoulders. If you're naked, the willow considers it to be sex. It will orgasm on your mind and you will blow dream chunks into outer space. All very fun until your neighbor sees you.                                    -The Joekenorer

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Re: Astral projecting [Re: joekenorer]
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good observation the key to amanita is being in tune then you will synch intune to everything else and astral projection will happen easier or other world travel. also drink a bit of milk with em and bless the milk.
as i said other people have encountered me when doing this so its legit astral projection. its funny cause they were not prepared and i hit em at random. but if you wanna try something like that you probally i have to have a close connect to that person and be skilled in travel and energy


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"You all are just  puppets... You have no heart...and cannot feel any pain...""
you may think thats pain you feel but you must have a heart to feel true pain and that pain wont be yours

Edited by thedudenj (06/26/07 04:46 AM)

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Re: Astral projecting [Re: SurCal]
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SurCal said:
Is it Bull shit or what? Because i heard you can supposedly have them from lucid dreaming but i can lucid dream almost at will and never really had a astral projection. The thing ive come closest to was i remeber i suddenly became lucid in my dream and i was floating above my bed but it had a TRIPPY ass feeling and i got scared and tried to wake up and suddenly i felt like i was being sucked through like a black vortex it was scary as fuck. So have any of you had them? Your thoughts on it? If it is true were are we when we astral project is it our souls in the physical world ?



The astral is!

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Re: Astral projecting [Re: joekenorer]
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joekenorer said:
Are you attacking my credo? Caution is for crickets!

Moderation will win. Thats that. Screw caution, pick moderation.



Moderation is bo-ho-hoooring.

Anyway, that was R.A. Heinlein attacking your credo.

Lazarus Long said:
Everything in excess! To enjoy the flavor of life, take big bites. Moderation is for monks.



But credo shot first.


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Re: Astral projecting [Re: thedudenj]
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thedudenj said:
good observation the key to amanita is being in tune then you will synch intune to everything else and astral projection will happen easier or other world travel. also drink a bit of milk with em and bless the milk.
as i said other people have encountered me when doing this so its legit astral projection. its funny cause they were not prepared and i hit em at random. but if you wanna try something like that you probally i have to have a close connect to that person and be skilled in travel and energy



Yeah, make sure you sink extra experience points into travel and energy, or you won't be able to take the boss. You need a power rating of at least 9,000, so you'll need to find ALL the invisible power-up blocks if you want to trip on muscaria.


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