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If god doen't exist
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and I don't exist

wahts exist>

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Re: If god doen't exist [Re: badreichenhall]
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SHIT

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Re: If god doen't exist [Re: badreichenhall]
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If you don't exist, then who wants to know?


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"What is in us that turns a deaf ear to the cries of human suffering?"

"Belief is a beautiful armor
But makes for the heaviest sword"
- John Mayer

Making the noise "penicillin" is no substitute for actually taking penicillin.

"This country, with its institutions, belongs to the people who inhabit it. Whenever they shall grow weary of the existing government, they can exercise their constitutional right of amending it, or their revolutionary right to dismember or overthrow it." -Abraham Lincoln

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Re: If god doen't exist [Re: badreichenhall]
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God exists and He is trapped in your Heart Center, tryin' to get a good view of the world through 'you'.


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"Have you found the beginning, then, that you are looking for the end? You see, the end will be where the beginning is. Congratulations to the one who stands at the beginning: that one will know the end and will not taste death."

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Re: If god doen't exist [Re: dblaney]
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I don't know

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Re: If god doen't exist [Re: badreichenhall]
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since when do you not exist?

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Re: If god doen't exist [Re: badreichenhall]
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Ho Ho Merry ........

God exists and He is trapped in your Heart Center, tryin' to get a good view of the world through 'you'.

whats a Heart Center?

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Re: If god doen't exist [Re: badreichenhall]
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You might have been told at one point in your life to "follow your heart." It is the the Anahata, the Heart Chakra, which draws one almost transcendental to the higher calling of the heart, which is a tuner of Compassion. The nature of God manifests through the Heart Center, transcending the head/crown. The thorn crowned Sacred Heart is perhaps the largest transcendental use of symbology next to the ascension of Christ. It draws one from all other chakras, especially the Sahasrara to the total illumination of the Heart. It is the Divine's eye piece.



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"Have you found the beginning, then, that you are looking for the end? You see, the end will be where the beginning is. Congratulations to the one who stands at the beginning: that one will know the end and will not taste death."

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Re: If god doen't exist [Re: badreichenhall]
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Dreams exist


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Though lovers be lost love shall not  And death shall have no dominion
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'Acceptance is the absolute key - at that moment you gain freedom and you gain power and you gain courage'

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Re: If god doen't exist [Re: BlueCoyote]
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Look at time/space continuum.

As space, energy, time, with space, energy comes time

with energy, time, comes space, blah blah blah.........

reality is created with infinite time and infinite space because energy is infinite, with the subjective worlds in galaxy, galaxy clusters, black holds, when underivable fields, gravitation vacuums, aliens with alien technology, aliens do exist, saying the world is flat is equivalent in saying we're the only ones in the universe, that has trillions of galaxies and galaxy clusters. Anybody that argues that is short sited,

I'd say their is patterns in the microcosm (atom) that are similar to macrocosm (solar system), why does everything follow a similar pattern? thats kind of weird to me how gravity creates everything perfectly circle, I am sure there is a totally logical explanation for it.

Also man came from no where, and originated through the propagation of apes, animals became increasing more advanced, but why just the ape family? I think there is a mystery that man doesn't know or hasn't solved, apprehension is everywhere, but people become bold with what they supposedly know because apprehension represents maybe fear, I say I think there is a mystery of something that maybe totally scientific but its so advanced that it seems magical and pretty much is, this magical mind blowing advancement of science that is beyond human understanding is what is creating things in this universe, with direct precision of physics, but its energy is so complex that virtually anything that it wishes to create becomes a reality, as it is not bounded by time.

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Re: If god doen't exist [Re: capliberty]
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You exist, god doesn't.

How hard is that to understand?

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Re: If god doen't exist [Re: capliberty]
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Whether or not you believe in something, doesn't mean said "something" doesn't exist.

Just my .02 :cool:

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Re: If god doen't exist [Re: AroundtheSon]
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It all depends on whose definition of God you're using. What if someone suddenly defined all of existance as God? Why do he have such a human view of God? It's stupid to try and define everything, especially existance. Things shift, change, evolve, whereas definitions are more static. You can't pin everything down in words to explain it. Words are just symbolic meanings we create. The symbolic meaning we've placed on things never changed what they are, only what we percieve them as.

Did the universe not create itself into the life we are experiencing right now? Did energy not evolve into matter and life? Perhaps the universe, and its energy, is the great creator. Perhaps we are creators. Maybe the universe exists for the simple reason that it can exist. Maybe its trying to figure itself out by evolving into us. Maybe it's all big game of realizing that we're one with the universe, and that it's not something outside of us, but inside as well. If Maybe Perhaps.

You can say it happened randomly. Coincidentally. No matter how it happened, it did, and there's much beauty far beyond what's necessary for DNA to simply keep replicating itself. There is more to all of this than we are aware of.

This is why I say God is intrinsic to everything. Energy is creative. You are the energy of the universe, and you are creative. We could probably learn a lot about Everything by learning about ourselves, seeing as though we are a rather unique part of Everything. Why do we think how we do. What are we afraid of and why. Why do we attach meaning to the things we do. The answers are within.

When we love eachother, we create new life. Apparantly, love is creative. Maybe the universe is love. Love creates life. Maybe we are love in a process of remembering who we are.

Time and space are the same thing. The former is simply a cognitive measurement of movement through the latter. Everything that will ever happen is happening RIGHT NOW. Time is an illusion of us passing through something, but what are we passing through? I recently stopped paying attention to time and found it to be completley meaningless.


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Re: If god doen't exist [Re: RoosterCogburn]
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RoosterCogburn said:
You exist, god doesn't.

How hard is that to understand?


Man you are wrong! God doesn't exist and you don't exist, but the flying spaghetti monster does!

How hard is that to understand?

(just trying to point out that making an assertion without backing it up doesn't amount to much of anything and really has no weight whatever in a discussion.)

Anyways, what do you mean by "exist" and what do you mean by "you"?


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"What is in us that turns a deaf ear to the cries of human suffering?"

"Belief is a beautiful armor
But makes for the heaviest sword"
- John Mayer

Making the noise "penicillin" is no substitute for actually taking penicillin.

"This country, with its institutions, belongs to the people who inhabit it. Whenever they shall grow weary of the existing government, they can exercise their constitutional right of amending it, or their revolutionary right to dismember or overthrow it." -Abraham Lincoln

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Re: If god doen't exist [Re: AroundtheSon]
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AroundtheSon said:
Whether or not you believe in something, doesn't mean said "something" doesn't exist.

Just my .02 :cool:


It also doesn't mean that said "something" DOES exist.


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"What is in us that turns a deaf ear to the cries of human suffering?"

"Belief is a beautiful armor
But makes for the heaviest sword"
- John Mayer

Making the noise "penicillin" is no substitute for actually taking penicillin.

"This country, with its institutions, belongs to the people who inhabit it. Whenever they shall grow weary of the existing government, they can exercise their constitutional right of amending it, or their revolutionary right to dismember or overthrow it." -Abraham Lincoln

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Re: If god doen't exist [Re: badreichenhall]
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God exists as a bundle of neurons.

You exist (seemingly) as a more complex bundle of cells.

Clearly, you are more complex than God, unless you only exist in my brain as a bundle of cells, in which case you'd be only equal to God.


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So long as you are praised think only that you are not yet on your own path but on that of another.

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Re: If god doen't exist [Re: capliberty]
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when you stop existing you stop existing. no biggie. the universe was here before you came and it'll be here after you're gone.

reality is created with infinite time and infinite space because energy is infinite,

there hasn't been a serious physicist for over a hundred years that felt that that hypothesis was in accord with the available evidence. if it were true, every line of sight in the sky would end on a star. they do not because the universe is finite.


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Re: If god doen't exist [Re: wilshire]
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everything is as it is
the god theory is unfortunate


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Re: If god doen't exist [Re: redgreenvines]
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who said god exists in any type of manifestation that we are able to percieve. life itself, and the fact that we are percieving and existing at all, should be proof enough that "god" in whatever form it exists, is that glue/fabric that holds this all together.

abstraction is key imo when talking about "god" because there is no way to logically grasp the concept.


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Re: If god doen't exist [Re: Syle]
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the simpler placeholder theory of Zero is a good one.


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