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Re: I have serious questions about Jesus Christ [Re: z_x_x_z]
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Jesus is real and so is the Bible


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Re: I have serious questions about Jesus Christ [Re: zahudulallah]
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Like I said a few times..

aliens

Conception without sex is made in a laboratory as it is today.
A bit of genetic engeniering and the baby has 300IQ, telekinesis and all kinds of other abilities, and then you
contact him one day and tell him everything there is to know about the way he was created and what his mission on earth is.
You tell him all about the new policy of raising human beings from animalism that they were once made from.
You tell him how to clean up the mess the former policy has made
(eye for an eye, 10 commandments)

Then when they "kill" him, you just go overnight, open the tomb,
revive him with advanced medicine, and he comes to say goodbie to all his friends and then a ride waits for him somewhere above the hill. He goes to a hill and says goodbie. And a tractor beam pulls him up and he goes on to live among his equals in some other more advanced world.

The rest of the history people cry over this half-breed even though he may have lived a couple of hundret years beyond the first Easter.

This version does not need any further explanation because it is all scientificaly possible, at least in theory. The only argument against is how probable it is.

But it is a lot more probable than some unviersal spirit taking form of a human being or something like that.

But it is not negating all the spirituality that Jesus was spreading.
He knew things poor Jews didn't, and taught them about the soul and all the sicrets of eternal life etc.

Same thing probably happened in East, only at a more radical level.
(lot's more ships, a war of some kind, quite a mess there)


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Re: I have serious questions about Jesus Christ [Re: skystone]
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drgonz


I havent got time to read all replys.

Let me just tell you that you take things WAAAAAAAY too literally. I guess thats what being brought up the materialistic way is all about. Just take it easy.

"It's just that I live in a redneck town where hillbillies drive around in their pick up trucks with rebel flags flyin high"

That explains :smile:


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Re: I have serious questions about Jesus Christ [Re: z_x_x_z]
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....I'd like to know.


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Re: I have serious questions about Jesus Christ [Re: z_x_x_z]
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I'll answer based on the teaching I've received (by a Roman Catholic priest who's been taught in turn by the current pope for seven years, among others)

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1.) Jesus was obviously born a baby. Now at what point of infancy did he suddenly realize that "hey, I'm the son of god and I'm here to save the day" I mean most toddlers I've encountered can barely comprehend how to signal for a bottle, and are too busy urinating/defecating on themselves to realize they are in fact the son of god.


I'm pretty sure he became the Christ at age 30, not in his infancy. What's more, Matthew 1-3 and Luke 1-3 were written at a later date than the rest of those gospels. Ever notice how there's no reference to the contents of those chapters in later chapters?

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2.) This whole immaculate conception thing makes me wonder. I mean, we all know that conception is a chemical reaction. The sperm enters the eggs, and boom, the embryo grows, blah blah blah. So did whoever "magically" knocked Mary up, have it all planned out to make sure the sex was male, etc, etc?


The immaculate conception was borrowed from Egyptian Isis/Osiris mythology, just like the great flood story was brought into Judaism after the Babylonian Exile.
What's more, the original Greek text uses a word that has erroneously been translated based on the connotational meaning "virgin", but is intended to mean "young lass", as every unmarried young girl was a virgin at the time the gospels were written.

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3.) They say that all men/women are born into sin. So when Jesus came parachuting out the womb wouldn't he automatically fall into this category? Mary was not "perfect", so being that one half of jesus was mary's egg, and the other came from the magic sperm, wouldn't half of him come from sin.


Regardless of whether he was a sinner, he, as a demi-god, died for the absolution of all future sin. Isn't that enough?

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4.) We all know what goes through a 15 year old males mind... Sex sex sex. I mean, you wake up everyday with raging morning wood, and before you know it your wackin the wood. And if you don't a wet dream usually occurs. So Jesus never had any kind of sexual temptation? If he was human, wouldn't the chemicals in his mind attract him to the female species??


There is a theory about Jesus being married to Mary Magdelen, having had kids. He was Jesus for thirty years, but the Christ only for three, so it only makes sense.


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Re: I have serious questions about Jesus Christ [Re: z_x_x_z]
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Did you once ask for god? You could have told someone and the outcome of your life could have been completely better, God gave you the strength and power to have changed how your life was....... That's how he works. You can't say he wasn't helping you, when you weren't helping yourself!

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Re: I have serious questions about Jesus Christ [Re: z_x_x_z]
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dr_gonz said:
With the surprising amount of Christians on this board, whats the correlation between Christians and drug use???


Jesus made me do drugs.


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Re: I have serious questions about Jesus Christ [Re: z_x_x_z]
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Read this book in its entirety. It will answer all of your questions, and some that you haven't thought of yet. It is the most reasonable and scholarly book on the Bible's construction that I have ever read. I met the author last year and asked him to autograph my copy.


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γνῶθι σαὐτόν - Gnothi Seauton - Know Thyself

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Re: I have serious questions about Jesus Christ [Re: MarkostheGnostic]
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MarkostheGnostic said:
Read this book in its entirety. It will answer all of your questions, and some that you haven't thought of yet. It is the most reasonable and scholarly book on the Bible's construction that I have ever read. I met the author last year and asked him to autograph my copy.


I've been trying to peek inside this book, but haven't been able to lately. Would there be a .pdf floating around out there?


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Re: I have serious questions about Jesus Christ [Re: Sadhguru]
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I doubt it. This book is worth owning inasmuch as like it or not, Westerners are effected on many levels of the psyche by the Bible, unconsciously, socially, even legally (i.e., being sworn-in in court), not to mention spiritually, whether one is consciously spiritual or not.


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γνῶθι σαὐτόν - Gnothi Seauton - Know Thyself

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Re: I have serious questions about Jesus Christ [Re: MarkostheGnostic]
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found it locally, I'll buy it tomorrow. Thanks for the suggestion, I keep seeing this pop up from time to time, and finally be able to read it.


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Re: I have serious questions about Jesus Christ [Re: CherryBom]
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"Wouldn't we all have 12 fingers and webbed feet? "

That's what we would have had if we weren't all inbred.  All that family time bumpin-uglies cost us two fingers and 10 MPH in the water.

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Re: I have serious questions about Jesus Christ [Re: Sadhguru]
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Right on!


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γνῶθι σαὐτόν - Gnothi Seauton - Know Thyself

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