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Re: Question on one of J.C.'s teachings... [Re: ]
    #1143266 - 12/15/02 12:33 PM (21 years, 4 months ago)

To each his own, my friend.

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Re: Question on one of J.C.'s teachings... [Re: Swami]
    #1144165 - 12/15/02 06:25 PM (21 years, 4 months ago)

You're such an inspiration for the ways that I'll never ever choose to be
Oh so many ways for me to show you how the savior has abandoned you
Fuck your God
Your Lord and your Christ
He did this
Took all you had and
Left you this way
Still you pray, you never stray
Never taste of the fruit
You never thought to question why

It's not like you killed someone
It's not like you drove a hateful spear into his side
Praise the one who left you
Broken down and paralyzed
He did it all for you
He did it all for you

Oh so many many ways for me to show you
How your dogma has abandoned you
Pray to your Christ, to your god
Never taste of the fruit
Never stray, never break
Never---choke on a lie
Even though he's the one who did this to you
You never thought to question why

Not like you killed someone
It's Not like you drove a spiteful spear into his side
Talk to Jesus Christ
As if he knows the reasons why
He did it all for you
Did it all for you
He did it all for you..

Judith- APC (MJK)


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Isn't quite as it seems?
What if all the world you think you know,
Is an elaborate dream?
And if you look at your reflection,
Is it all you want it to be?


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Re: Question on one of J.C.'s teachings... [Re: Swami]
    #1144308 - 12/15/02 07:47 PM (21 years, 4 months ago)

...in Jesus' words, there is no difference between the thought and the act in the eyes of God...

Then we are all fucked, presuming there is a God. This is another illustration of the inherent unreasonableness of religion.

To a reasonable person, it makes no difference whatsoever if you yearn to act in evil ways as long as you restrain yourself from so doing. Who has been harmed? No one. As a matter of fact, it could be argued you should get extra credit for operating at a disadvantage, because you are making a conscious effort to behave properly while someone who isn't subject to the same yearning is just cruising.

This is like that woman thing where it's not enough that you take her to a chick flick even though you hate chick flicks; as a matter of fact she'll get pissed because she knows you didn't WANT to do it. For them, it's not enough to do it because you know it makes them happy, oh no -- you have to WANT to do it. As you leave the theater to retrieve your car, the following exchange occurs:

You: "What's the matter? Didn't you say you wanted to see Titanic?"

She: "Well how could I possibly enjoy the movie when I knew that you were sitting there hating every minute? It spoiled the whole thing!"

You: "Did I give any indication I was hating it? Was I squirming or groaning or something?"

She: "You didn't HAVE to do anything. I just knew."

You: "Let me get this straight. It would have been better if you went by yourself?"

She: "I didn't say THAT!"

You: "So it was better that we went to see it together, right? Which is what we did, right? Help me out, here."

She: "Oh, you don't understand ANYTHING!"

pinky


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Re: Question on one of J.C.'s teachings... [Re: Phred]
    #1144406 - 12/16/02 02:35 AM (21 years, 4 months ago)

Poor pinky! If you only understood women... LOL!

What I like is how they hold on to minor "infractions" and then put them in their internal bank to collect interest. Then they will be withdrawn years later during a completely unrelated moment. "You bastard! Do you remember when you embarrassed me in front of my mother in 1996?!" And you are like, "Huh?" "Yes, you used the dinner fork instead of the salad fork.."


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Anonymous

Re: Question on one of J.C.'s teachings... [Re: Phred]
    #1144421 - 12/16/02 02:49 AM (21 years, 4 months ago)

Ah yes Pink, I have often felt abstruse philosophical concepts were easier to discern than a woman's heart.

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Re: Question on one of J.C.'s teachings... [Re: ]
    #1144809 - 12/16/02 05:47 AM (21 years, 4 months ago)

I feel bad for you guys... I found a cool chick.
SHE actually bitches about chick flicks.


Sorry... not trying to brag, just letting you know that cool women DO exist.
I've actually run into a few... most in my town (just because that's where I spend the most time) and one across the Atlantic. But I'm sure there are MANY more out there (who are single).

I dunno... maybe I just have a good net. All the insecure dumbasses slip through the holes and I'm left with a catch. Oh and I haven't had an intimate relationship with all of them (hell, only a couple- for various convenience factors and whatnot), so that's not throwing off my judgement.

BTW, sorry about furthering this tangent.


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Re: Question on one of J.C.'s teachings... [Re: Sclorch]
    #1144815 - 12/16/02 05:49 AM (21 years, 4 months ago)

Are you sure that she is NOT a guy who had an operation?


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Re: Question on one of J.C.'s teachings... [Re: Sclorch]
    #1144817 - 12/16/02 05:49 AM (21 years, 4 months ago)

Yeah, there are lots of cool chicks.


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http://phluck.is-after.us

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Re: Question on one of J.C.'s teachings... [Re: Swami]
    #1144874 - 12/16/02 06:09 AM (21 years, 4 months ago)

Are you sure that she is NOT a guy who had an operation?

Absolutely... ya silly bastard!


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Re: Question on one of J.C.'s teachings... [Re: Sclorch]
    #1144892 - 12/16/02 06:13 AM (21 years, 4 months ago)

The skeptic in me won't believe you until I do a personal in-depth examination when I visit in the spring. I MUST make sure that you are not deluding yourself.


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The proof is in the pudding.

Edited by Swami (12/16/02 04:31 PM)

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Re: Question on one of J.C.'s teachings... [Re: Swami]
    #1145620 - 12/16/02 10:18 AM (21 years, 4 months ago)

Sexual repreension. That's one of many typical "moral" aspect of the church, it's a result of a machist culture were this aspect evolves from the simple fact that man needs to be sure his descendants have his genes, in other words "nobody fucks with my wife besides myself".
Some like to be at the edge of danger and join M.I.L.F though.

MAIA


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Use, do not abuse; neither abstinence nor excess ever renders man happy.
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Re: Question on one of J.C.'s teachings... [Re: Phred]
    #1145626 - 12/16/02 10:20 AM (21 years, 4 months ago)

thought -> I want to beep her but I should not because -insert appropriate reason-

act -> I have the chance, but I don't beep her

--

thought -> I want to beep her, and I am going to do it tonight (who gives a shit about her husband anyway)

act -> Circumstances do not allow it, so I don't beep her

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Re: Question on one of J.C.'s teachings... [Re: Sclorch]
    #1145800 - 12/16/02 11:24 AM (21 years, 4 months ago)

A friend of mine meets lots of cool chicks...

but then, he works in a morgue.


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Re: Question on one of J.C.'s teachings... [Re: Swami]
    #1146053 - 12/16/02 01:04 PM (21 years, 4 months ago)

Ok, so while I was looking into your question, I looked up the 9th commandment, and happened to stumble on the King James version (the original biblical version):

"Thou shalt not covet thy neighbour's house, thou shalt not covet thy neighbour's wife, nor his manservant, nor his maidservant, nor his ox, nor his ass, nor any thing that is thy neighbour's." Exodus 20:17

Hmmm, we've changed it considerably since the King James version.  So I wonder:  what gives us the right to change the bible around (to include the 10 commandments themselves)?  Does that mean it's now ok for me to covet my neighbor's maidservant?  :blush:   


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Re: Question on one of J.C.'s teachings... [Re: Swami]
    #1146115 - 12/16/02 01:26 PM (21 years, 4 months ago)

To me Covet means you would do it if you thought could get away with it.

Just wanting something doesn't make it a sin. As long as you feel that it would be "wrong" and would not do it even if there were no physical, or spiritual risk.


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Re: Question on one of J.C.'s teachings... [Re: Revelation]
    #1146194 - 12/16/02 01:46 PM (21 years, 4 months ago)

You seem to know more about Christianity than the rest of us. So here's a related question:

One of my teachers displayed a topless Playboy centerfold in class a few lessons ago, and my very Christian friend was extremely upset with her that she would do such a thing, because he lusted after the centerfold and therefore believed he had committed a sin.

Now, my question is this:
Since we know he lusts after topless Playboy centerfolds, isn?t he guilty of sin whether the picture is shown to him or not? All?s the picture does is remind him that he has this shameful desire to begin with.

And I would totally have to agree with Swami?s logic: he might as well go after the centerfold now, since ?there is no difference between the thought and the act in the eyes of God?


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Re: Question on one of J.C.'s teachings... [Re: Swami]
    #1146321 - 12/16/02 03:57 PM (21 years, 4 months ago)

Right on Swami. Nice loophole :wink:


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Re: Question on one of J.C.'s teachings... [Re: GoBlue!]
    #1146349 - 12/16/02 04:06 PM (21 years, 4 months ago)

What class was that in?

I really wouldn't like to covet my neighbors' ass, unless my neighbor was a good-looking female.


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What if everything around you
Isn't quite as it seems?
What if all the world you think you know,
Is an elaborate dream?
And if you look at your reflection,
Is it all you want it to be?


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Re: Question on one of J.C.'s teachings... [Re: Murex]
    #1146436 - 12/16/02 04:26 PM (21 years, 4 months ago)

Haha!  It was a law class, believe it or not.  The issue was whether or not the centerfold was allowed to set up her own private website, with the heading "Playboy Playmate of the Year 1981" (since the "Playboy" name was copyrighted).  The answer was that she could, because there wasn't another good way to describe that accomplishment, and because her website had disclaimers saying that it wasn't affiliated with or endorsed by Playboy.  :smile: 


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Re: Question on one of J.C.'s teachings... [Re: Sclorch]
    #1146589 - 12/16/02 05:10 PM (21 years, 4 months ago)

For clarification purposes I was not implying that women are not cool, just hard to understand at times.

Also, I love chick flicks.

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