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Offlinejohnnyfive
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The Second Coming of Christ!!
    #1231174 - 01/19/03 11:48 AM (21 years, 4 months ago)

The Second Coming of Christ

A. Intro
B. The second coming
1. My Christ theory
2. Quotes
3. DNA
4. Is the government on god's side?
5. The rapture?
6. Drug War and Meditation
C. The matrix -- rewind and revolutions
1. The One
D. Bruce Almighty
E Haarp]
                      1. Date 2004
2. The Machine
F. Conclusion


Intro

Three movies coming out in 2003, can better explain my ideology with my Christ theory. Now I haven't seen the matrix reloaded, and revolutions, nor have I seen Bruce almighty, so I may be wrong about the assumptions i'll be making about these movies. To fully understand what im talking about here, you need to read section E. to read about haarp technologys, and section B- 2, about DNA.

The Second Coming  

The second coming isn't some angry politician, or long-haired hippy like figure floating down from the sky, to save humanity. Humanity will fully develop there hidden potentials in the form of quantom-physics. clairvoyance is the ability to see into the future, telepathy is the ability to talk to someone or animal in there mind. Telekinesis is the ability to lift an object or objects with your mind.

My Christ Theory

Christ a word hated and loved, but mostly used wrong, or in wrong terminology. Jesus Christ a term used in modern Christianity often. Jesus and Christ are two totally different things. Christ is a word for inner-God. The fact that in history, the bible is filled with Jesus doing many things, at many times of history suggests that the term Jesus, was a word they used for men such as Hercules, Kauai, Zeus, or hours (the Egyptian sky God). Christ could be an old age word for consciousness, that the term Jesus Christ, is really jesus (like any persons name joe, jane, jimmy) who has found the inner god (christ). Perhaps jesus, of Nazareth really died for consciousness, or for mankind to get the knowledge of consciousness, because remember the Roman empire didn't want this information spread. Today we embark on a new dark ages, a new Roman empire, similar to the one Jesus of Nazareth, went through. The New World order, a one world government governed by CEO's.

Quotes

"We are grateful to the Washington Post, the New York Times, Time magazine and other great publications whose directors have attended our meetings and respected the promises of discretion for almost forty years. It would have been impossible for us to develop our plan for the world if we had been subject to the bright lights of publicity during those years. But, the world is now more sophisticated and prepared to march towards a world-government. The supranational sovereignty of an intellectual elite and world bankers is surely preferable to the National autodetermination practiced in past centuries"--David Rockefeller in an address to a Trilateral Commission meeting in June of 1991

"For some time I have been disturbed by the way the CIA has been diverted from it's original assignment. It has become an operational and at times a policy making arm of the government." -- President Harry Truman

"[The New World Order] cannot happen without U.S. participation, as we are the most significant single component. Yes, there will be a New World Order, and it will force the United States to change it's perceptions." -- Henry Kissenger, World Affairs Council Press Conference, Regent Beverly Wilshire Hotel , April 19th 1994

"Channeling is basically coming from satellites. 95% at least. It started in the mid sixties. This is part of a disinformation dissemination program by the NSA so that people would believe that there were space brothers coming to save us and you wouldn't have to do anything and just wait until you went into the fourth and fifth dimensions and life would be good and wonderful. When in fact, it was a cleaver ploy to get you to just not do anything. The program is usually turned on when the person is sleeping and "down loaded" into their brain. Then when certain triggers are transmitted by ground transmission - the person goes into their act." - Stewart Swerdlow, a participant in the Montauk Project, both as a "Montauk Boy" and later as a supervisor. From the new CD "The Philadelphia Experiment" (the complete story).

"Do not try and bend the spoon, that's impossible. Instead only try to realize the truth. (What truth?). There is no spoon, then you'll see that it is not the spoon that bends, it is only yourself".
- The Matrix (movie).


There is a possibility of a fake Second Coming (The return of Jesus Christ) staged by the negative Grey extraterrestrial. This could be an aerial hologram. This could be staged to divide us and distract us. The Second Coming is really within us. -siekin

"Don't confuse the second coming of christ, with the words, "There is he, or Here i am." For the second coming of christ will be found in yourself." - Jesus Christ


DNA {This info came from the www.2012.com website}

Our narrative begins in the early 1950s when Doctors Watson and Crick make an epic discovery concerning the RNA/DNA double helix (see FIGURE 7). They find a third, separated strand in the center of the double helix. Other researchers soon confirm their findings. At first, many geneticists postulate that this third strand is just protein detritus, a material left over from the more primitive evolutionary elements that originally created the human species.

Nonetheless, by the mid-1980s, doubts began to be expressed about this concept. Many genetic researchers involved in the early study of the human genome determined that the third strand was starting to connect to the four ladders inside the double helix. This activating third strand displayed highly unusual properties. Its unexpected development suddenly called into question how human evolution had occurred.

Infants born with this activated third strand demonstrate very high intelligence and expanded psychic abilities, the most common of which is telepathy. Many babies are able to 'talk' telepathically with their parents, even warning them of potential danger. Initially, these children were rarely seen. However, since the early 1990s, more have been observed worldwide. At a special meeting in Mexico City in 1995, geneticists discussed this occurrence (now much more widespread) in secret.

In addition to these amazing children, a number of adults began to appear, globally, whose third strand is in the preliminary stages of reconnecting to the four ladders of the RNA/DNA double helix. By the mid-1990s, the situation had become more prevalent. During the 1995 Conference on Genetics in Mexico City, scientists debated whether to conceal this odd problem from the public or to give out false information, pending the completion of further studies. Many geneticists saw this phenomenon as the potential beginning of a new global catastrophe. They failed to see it as a portent of the ever-evolving integration of body, mind, and Spirit.

The first stage of your cellular genetic mutations consists of this third-strand phenomenon. Once this phase is completed, a second stage begins, initiating a multi-strand RNA/DNA (from three to five or even sixstrand) and soon causing superb unification among your mental, emotional, and physical bodies. This stage ends when your genetic material is ready to transform itself into its final form: twelve-strand RNA/DNA.

DNA actually has a receptive 'quality. The protein itself is almost like a hologram, a fact that many geneticists (especially in the field of bioelectrical genetics) have discovered. They have found that if information is introduced into the wall of a cell, it is immediately brought within the cellular nucleus. A relationship exists between the cell wall and the nucleus that these scientists were initially at a loss to explain. Cellular interaction takes place, changing the amounts of various chemical reactions, proteins, and so on in the cellular structure and actually altering the metabolism of the body.

Both chemical reactions and genetic codes are involved in this process as well as facets of the gene structures that have yet to come online. With a change in consciousness, actual chemical changes occur. Restructured genes activate processes that can alter your physical structure. Previously, I have explained that the change in consciousness occurs at a physical, emotional, mental, and spiritual level which manifests as a cellular alteration.

Now you are equipped for the development of the magical RNA/DNA star tetrahedron! As we enter your RNA/DNA protein strands, carefully observe the fabulous light show. Pay attention to the energy bouncing from one strand to the other. Notice how each special rotating antenna, located where the various protein ladders connect, brings this information-energy in from other dimensions.

The physical basis of your full consciousness is twelve-strand RNA/DNA. This amazing organic Light material forms as a star tetrahedron (see FIGURE 8) that constantly spins and rotates on its six major axis points. In addition, the third strand in each of the six helices connects to (and continually weaves patterns of Light around) the central core of the star tetrahedron.

Every day, your Sun transfers pure photon energy to Earth's atmosphere. One source of these patterns of Light is the Sun. Another is the constant transmission of inter-dimensional information-energy.

This second source of life-giving photon energy contains a great deal of data from your local Spiritual Hierarchy. Information is collected through the use of special rotating antennae found on the two strands that form the helix and located where each strand intersects with its four ladders. Here, a special series of vortices, created by the constant gyrations of the different elements in the star tetrahedron, makes this acquisition possible.

These sacred transmissions give your fully developed RNA/DNA the special codes they need to properly distribute your life force energy throughout this remarkable ever-changing star tetrahedron. In addition, these specially designed rotary antennae regulate the amount of photon energy present in each star tetrahedron this way, your RNA/DNA receive

Its life-giving photon energy and then converts it into energies that your body's consciousness can easily process. Let us take another look at how this process operates.

Fully developed RNA/DNA interacts in very profound ways with your internal cellular structure. In the past two decades, your cellular biologists have discovered that consciousness changes the nature (functioning) of the cell and its relationship with other cells in your body.

In this recently emerged field of 'Quantum biology', consciousness (perception) can be observed to alter the health or even the daily interactions of cells. Full consciousness dramatically increases that same procedure. In this case, your consciousness interacts on the smallest levels of cellular biology. In effect, your body, mind, and Spirit are completely integrated -a transformation visible in the exchanges now occurring in your transmuting RNA/DNA.

Is the occult/goverment on god's side?

Eighty-nine percent of the human population is unable to tolerate the impact of such direct spiritual transmission, so the socio-moral inertia's of religions and/or philosophical grids have been superimposed to slow things down

Ive always woundered what this symbol means in the eye's in the creators who created it. My theory is that its a symbol of who they work for. Could the occult work for the mind's eye. Its a pyramid with three sides, and an eye in the center is an eye. Why is enslavement of humanity, full assault mind control upon then entire world's people, the spread of the aids disease, declaring one person within the NWO as god amongst men through haarp tech., the entire monopolization of our basic living resources could be good? How could the absolute worse things that could happen be good? Its only under the most extreme conditions will the human spirit full manifest its self. Essentially you'll go crazy, but its up to you to make order of the chaos. Just as during psychedelic sessions unusually in order for one to experience enlightenment, one must go through a bad trip, or near-death experience.

The point here, is that most people on earth aren't ready for the spiritual move to the final consciousness, and given the ability to have such christ like abilities. So there needs to be a test, something to prepare you for full onset of knowledge and understanding of good and evil for such a shift. So here we are 2003, getting ready to go through a very matrix-like scenario. Its going to be tough, but necessary!


Whats the rapture ?

Could the rapture be, just a collecting of people who are currently are evolving at a faster pace then the masses. Say there on there 5th strand DNA evolution. In the bible the rapture was described as a flash (during a nuclear flash maybe;) ), and the true Christians are gathered so that they don't have to go through the coming darkness. That maybe they can chill somewhere on an island (similar to 2 pac, john Denver, princess Diana :wink: ) and not have to go through the end of times (at least its the end of times for most people), and they can practice being gods! There would need to be lack there of the knowledge of christ (inner-god) in the world, or in the matrix (the coming real world scenario), or they would figure it out to easily. I believe that true Christians are people like psyconuts, shroomers, Buddhists, anyone who believes that there the one's who are gods and that everyone else is too. Just theory.

Drug War and Meditation

"The gates to the kingdom of heaven are found in you!" - Jesus Christ - said to be the original writings of Jesus in Aramaic

Why a drug war, is there something wrong with drugs? There's nothing wrong with drugs, because we are always on one anyway. In the coming years you need to be able to use your own bodies drugs to summon the abilities of Christ. If there's a second coming of conceiusness, who's going to survive this coming event needs to know how to get high/pray/open the third eye, ON YOUR OWN. When the government operates in its think tank (the war on drugs), the theory is you don't get in trouble for smoking it (marijuana) only touching it, implying that its for money reasons, you can't touch it. I disagree, I believe that the end goal is that they can't wait for the day, that even if you want to get high it doesn't exist anymore, or a high isn't available anymore; that for one to commune with christ (or get high) one will be forced to settle for meditation (which is a way of getting high). You see the only reason for the increased want for freedom, increased want to get high; here late in the ending of the last millennium is that your trust for consciousness (christ) is greater (because your evolving). They (government) knows this, and that's why they have a drug war, because they want you to get high though your inner body drugs (DMT) and such, not the outer body drugs such as marijuana, shrooms or whatever. There's a government program to create (or already created) a biological agent to attack a genius of plants which include marijuana, poppies, cocaine. This profuse need to destroy the plants on earth that get you high, is either sick, or there's a reason we just don't understand yet. The government knew that such drugs as marijuana, lsd, and shrooms would be saute after more and more as we approached the year 2012, this is our want and need to become more conscious.

The Matrix - Reloaded and revolutions

The matrix reloaded, and revolutions are coming sequals and prequals to the smashing-soon to be series. The matrix reloaded is supposed to be a prequel to the matrix, its supposed to be the story line on how the matrix was built. Morpheous says that they tried to build the first matrix and it was a disaster! In this essay I would refer to the matrix (the movie) so that you could get an understanding about what im implying about the potential real-world scenario. The matrix revolutions are about how the ONE, defeats the machine. The ONE has christ like abilities far greater than say morpheous's abilities. The ONE is supposed to teach them how to bend reality so that in the end, humans can live.

The ONE

In the movies Neo is the ONE. What's the ONE? The movie prophetizes the one will come to free humanity of its enslavement. I believe that when a real-world matrix scenario happens the one is really all. One and all, a concept about spirituality that remains insensible, but hey,... truth defies reason.

Bruce almighty

The main theme of the movie is that bruce (jim carry) is cursing god, about how sorry his life is. God comes down and gives bruce his powers, and bruce has one day to improve the conditions of the earth or god will create an Armageddon and send humanity back to the stone ages. The question of the movie is what would you do with the biggest responsibility in the universe? (god powers) The movie makes a good point how could the masses coupe with telekinesis, telepathy, and carvoyance. I haven't' seen bruce almighty yet, but its set to come out in the middle of 2003. Looks like a good movie. This movie gives the person a sense of what christ like abilities would be like for an individual.

Haarp ******IMPORTANT********

"It would also appear possible to create high fidelity speech in the human body, raising the possibility of covert suggestion and psychological direction... Thus, it may be possible to 'talk' to a selected adversaries in a fashion that would be most disturbing to them." New World Vistas: Air and Space Power for the 21st Century- Ancillary Volume; Scientific advisory Board (Airforce), Washington DC; Document #19960618040; 1996; pp 89-90

The book Earth Rising-the revolution toward a thousand years of peace says this is the ultimate "brave new world". HAARP - High-frequency Active Aural Research Program. Haarp is many things it, its called different things. Haarp works though energy waves, its amazing what simple frequency can do!

Modify Weather
Precipitation enhancement
Flood Lines of communication
Reduce PGM/Recee Effectiveness
Decrease Comfort level/Morale
Storm Enhancement
Precipitation denial/ Induce drought
Space Weather / Disrupt commutations radars / Disable Space assists
Fog and Cloud removal or induce cloud concealment / Increase venerability
Detect Hostile Weather
Improve radar/ morale / lines of commutation
Choose battlespace environment/ storm modification/ add energy to disturbances
Defend against enemy technologies/ nukes through lasers (maybe)
Earthquakes (waves to effect the tektonic plates), Volcanos

Modify Emotions and the human body

DNA alteration
Induce depression or happiness
Induce hallucinations, or implanting voices in the head
Gobal positioning Satellite, body tracking (visual, implant, or other)
Gobal surveillance, (the eyes in the sky are always watching)
Improve or destroy memory, induce no-time
Induce pain
It's been a theory of my that it could cut your lower mind off from the GOD SOURCE/Human Spirit the  pineal gland (higher mind)!
(Though I haven't seen this in the book) This I consider this to be "THE wall." Whenever enacted

New Destructive energy weapons

These and many more new technology's could be used to clean the earth and atmosphere. Certain wave frequencies can destroy chlorofluorocarbon molecules, and or many other byproducts of oil (I think it's from oil) from the earth. Which is an example of the usefulness of the technology too.

Date 2004

The thought of something like the matrix happening is impossible or worse inconceivable to most. My theory is that in the next four years we may under go the silencing of our god sources, or as the matrix says, "They built a mental prison around you". Many would say, how is this possible; i believe because of orthodox religions ( wiether christian, catholic) have contributed to the choking of the human spirit for millenniums. When man use ignorance (don't question god) instead of truth (feel free to question god), it will only catch up to us sooner or later, by a force (goverment) that can see that the subject of god, is humanity greatest weakness. For the past thousands of years man (masses) haven't talked/prayed to god, so when the link to god is take from you, you probably won't notice it. Don't mistake me saying I think we live in a matrix,.. no but I believe that through the use of haarp technology with it, its possible through conscious manipulation, its possible to create a similar matrix like theme. I also believe that such a scenario is necessary for the freeing of humanity anyway, its only in those worse possible conditions that the human spirit will blossom amounts men.  We are beginning to live in a soulless world, soon to be governed by one. The wall is like the people of Babylon; the tower of Babel was originally built by unconscious people. You can be unconscious and still live like you live now, only you don't have the same reality or world view. You won't have your sixth sense, the sense that can alert you to a reality manipulation.

The Machine

In the matrix robots turn the human race in to batteries. Keeping them in a false reality, so that the life can be drained of them. Lets take a look at the potential significance of the real world matrix concepts of the machine. We live in a world, that is beginning to become world governed by a small hand-full of people. Most people in this country work for someone else, back in 1930's most people worked for themselves. Corporations the business scene of the present, offer new insights on the potentials of our future. Corporations behave in some ways like sponges, in other ways like bacteria, and in other ways like slime molds. Some say that in the end, we would only destroy each other, and that we are a bacteria on the earth... slowly killing it. Corporations are similar to the great machine in the matrix. Take the issue of marijuana for example. The government says it wants more research on marijuana, but it makes marijuana harder to get than any other substance. Marijuana has been proven to alleviate side effects and or actually heal/help cope with the great diseases of our time (aids, various cancers, ms). Yet its not allowed, but Marinol is? Why take what the plant can give you and put it in a pill. Despite financial reasons for the act of  pure evil. Yet were given a pill from a plant that has no medicinal value?? They create the disease (aids, cancers), then they'll offer you the pills (with side effects that are worse than the disease). Corporations are sucking the people dry, when the problems in there lives are created from the same people, who say they will fix your problem (disease or whatever). Money is called currency, like a machine corporations feed on currency. So corporations are enslaving you (turning you into a battery, because without your work you put into the company, the company can't exist without its currency). Corporations pay to change your reality through 100 years of selective programming (TV), your world view is exactly like there's, in a sense your in there reality, were the only thing in the world you live for or worship is money! To get currency you need to work for corperations/bussiness, and feed the machine. People confuse talk of bashing corporations with bashing business in general, what they don't understand that large monolithic type businesses have the ability to effect more people's lives then say "small business" Corperations see you as a battery!

The Machine

"None ever asks, are our children really learning?" - G.W. Bush

I get more frustration from this one person than probably than anyone else. Lets step back a second, and not use anger as a way judging him despite the pure evil that comes from this man. Take from a man who is currently taking over America, like Hitler too. If America is just going to sit there and let bush do what he's about to do, then this is an example on why its so important for him to do it.

Go Bush!, do the dirty job, but someone has to do it?!  Be the anti-christ! (which is a good thing)  :wink:

{If you don't see the irony here is that bush asks, are our children really learning? I irony is that if our children (this generation) are learning, then it isn't possible for bush to takeover America like he is. We aren't learning!}


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And the gameshow host rings the buzzer (brrnnntt) oh and now you get a face full of face!

Edited by johnnyfive (01/19/03 03:09 PM)

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OfflineEarth_Droid
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Re: The Second Coming of Christ!! *DELETED* [Re: johnnyfive]
    #1231541 - 01/19/03 03:05 PM (21 years, 4 months ago)

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Re: The Second Coming of Christ!! [Re: Earth_Droid]
    #1231710 - 01/19/03 04:25 PM (21 years, 4 months ago)

You post whore  :laugh: :laugh: 

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Re: The Second Coming of Christ!! [Re: ]
    #1231723 - 01/19/03 04:31 PM (21 years, 4 months ago)

Too long to read. Plus not an interesting subject.

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Re: The Second Coming of Christ!! [Re: FocusHawaii]
    #1232263 - 01/19/03 07:54 PM (21 years, 4 months ago)

Read it before you bash it!

I liked it

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Re: The Second Coming of Christ!! [Re: johnnyfive]
    #1232278 - 01/19/03 08:05 PM (21 years, 4 months ago)

2012.com is a crack pot crock of shit website. the guy makes money operating it selling books and shit he links to. the whole thing discredits the reality of the one world order and all that shit that is really happening. dont believe everything you read.

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Re: The Second Coming of Christ!! [Re: johnnyfive]
    #1232771 - 01/20/03 03:08 AM (21 years, 4 months ago)

Why did the Matrix start dominating the minds of every pseudo-philisophical teenagers since it came out?  Its stating nothing new.  I can't count the number of times my stoned ass friends have said something like "dude, what if life, was like, really a computer game or something.  And, Game Over is like, when you die."  The MAtrix is a fucking Hollywood invention, and I feel sorry anyone who takes a 90 minute special-effects show seriously.  It may be a LITTLE deeper than your average action movie, but not much.

Oh, and I work for a company that makes HAARP antennas.  We've heard it all.  They're used to communicate with submarines that are REALLY far under water, that you can't reach with normal antennas.  I can assure you that they aren't some insidious gov't plot to take over your mind.  The reason everything about is confidential is, well, its experimental and everything the government does with us is confidential, no matter how insignificant.  Conspiracy theories are for adult children with over-active (and paranoid) imaginations.

Sorry if I sound like I'm in a bad mood; I am.

Oh, and comparing Bush to Hitler is really bad form.  Bush is a bad president, true, but he isn't killing 6 million people is he?  He isn't driving everyone but whites out of his country is he?  He isn't very nationalistic; look at how wide open the borders are, anyone can and will get in, illegal or not.  Why does the whole world look down on America?  Is it because we stopped Isreal from fucking massacreing Palestinians?  Is it because Canada hides under the United States economic security blanket while at the same time talks shit about us?  Why do people we send billions in aid to every year, FOR THE SOLE PURPOSE THAT THEY WILL KEEP THE PEACE burn and rip American flags?  I found the reason.  Its their own shortcomings.  They know we can and have succeeded in many things other countries have failed at.  America will survive no matter how many countries (whom DEPEND ON OUR AMERICAN "GREED") bash us and how many war-happy presidents we get.  I'm just tired of being asked why the American flag on my jacket is "upside down" by college professors and other people who tend to your a super right-wing neo-Nazi if you're patriotic.

Good lord I got off topic.  No more Wake-n-Bake for me before work.  :grin:


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I ain't gonna worry wrinkles in my brow
cuz nothin's ever gonna be alright no how
No matter how I struggle and strive
I'll never get outta this world alive -HW Sr.

Edited by NewGlory (01/20/03 03:27 AM)

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Re: The Second Coming of Christ!! [Re: NewGlory]
    #1234301 - 01/20/03 01:15 PM (21 years, 4 months ago)

Your not getting the post, its good that he's bad!

You don't get it?


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Re: The Second Coming of Christ!! [Re: ]
    #1234504 - 01/20/03 02:59 PM (21 years, 4 months ago)

Dont believe everything your told  :wink:

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Re: The Second Coming of Christ!! [Re: NewGlory]
    #1234686 - 01/20/03 04:19 PM (21 years, 4 months ago)

just one correction, it wasnt hitler who killed everyone, its everyone who followed him which led to that outcome. their are plenty of fucked up people in this world who given the power and oppertunity would do the same if not worse. you are part of an economy part of a national system, it is nationalistic. you go to work and you support the govt, you drive the economy. if for some reason the us decides to go to war and and they think their such hot shit and blow the fuck out of iraq, you think everyone was guilty, is that justifiably not the same thing the nazis did? what do you think of when you think of a nazi? i see them managing big corporations. saying that WE, as in a country is the strongest point for nationalism, and after september 11th bush was all for increasing the patriotic identity. all germany had left after world war 1 was to consume something so they could sustain, and in their low spirits such an easy outcoming would be right in line with the masses. he had a great oppertunity to seize the greatest population with the most money, and Vouahla you got the economy back and a national identity to help keep your people to a common goal to produce and keep sustenance within the nation.

and side from that people always think the holocaust was the worst thing to hit the planet, what about the 20 or 30 so million russians killed under the leadership of stalin. to think that you are empervious makes you vulnerable. lets not forget all the shitty things humans have done to other humans over the many years and what kind of people do this, i will assure you bush is a douche just as much as hitler and stalin and mao to go around and fuck people in the ass. theres way to much to go on about, but the matrix has more core truths and has led me to so many great other things i cant begin to even tell you.

saying the matrixis just like any other hollywood movie with special effects is just imo like saying fight club is a movie for egotistical males and their fighting is just stupid and their project mayhem is just great action for "those guys who like action movies"


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Re: The Second Coming of Christ!! [Re: blahblahblah]
    #1234951 - 01/20/03 06:19 PM (21 years, 4 months ago)

2012.com is a crackpot shitcock site, and no one had to tell me that

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Re: The Second Coming of Christ!! [Re: johnnyfive]
    #1235305 - 01/21/03 01:06 AM (21 years, 4 months ago)

Check out
www.2013.com instead
Niceone
Visionary people
Nice ideas
Nice metaprograming
Dreammachinematrixinterfacingadinfinitum

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Re: The Second Coming of Christ!! [Re: NewGlory]
    #1236031 - 01/21/03 07:43 AM (21 years, 4 months ago)

Quote:

Oh, and I work for a company that makes HAARP antennas




Tell me more about HAARP then?



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Re: The Second Coming of Christ!! [Re: Zero7a1]
    #1236079 - 01/21/03 07:58 AM (21 years, 4 months ago)

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it wasnt hitler who killed everyone




I didn't say that, i know dumbasses had to follow him for it to be possible!

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and side from that people always think the holocaust was the worst thing to hit the planet




I don't believe this. However i believe the next coming war to make hitler and stalin, look like a backyard scrap! The anti-christs will be given a sword; the sword is technology. It will slice through nations; in the end the great dragon (bibilical dragon) will comsume most of humanity.

People i really don't want to get in to the heavy politics of it, though politics play and important role in the second coming. I realize bush isn't killing, millions of americans(yet!). People you have to understand im trying to get you to visiualize a potential future. As for bush being a bad president, i would disagree, though what he does is evil, i believe the end, the out come would be nessisary?! Believe me i had to shorten this essay, i wanted to go deeper in the politics, but then agian i didnt' want to post this under the politics forum.

OK EVERYONE READ BEFORE YOU JUDGE, MOST OF THE POSTS HERE ARE FAR FROM MY TOPIC OF DISSCUSSION!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


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Re: The Second Coming of Christ!! [Re: johnnyfive]
    #1236112 - 01/21/03 08:04 AM (21 years, 4 months ago)

Christ can't come again.... I doubt the same person can be born twice... without cloning them!


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Re: The Second Coming of Christ!! [Re: johnnyfive]
    #1236178 - 01/21/03 08:25 AM (21 years, 4 months ago)

i see the weirdest stuff all day long, the matrix is kind of right al though kind of camppy see jesus never excisted on this side(the living) he went to hell to take it over and now that he deid for your sins the soul for soul law says all souls are his, heaven is in your minds as a whole of the human minds the angelic celestrail hevean is for angels, jesus is a heep of lies, he uses your souls to get drunk his blood and body are the spirit and soul, how ever me and him have gone mono e mono a few times and all of the art of the human spiecies is in us, all music and art is about us, I'm telling ya man theres no need to believe in me cause I'm down to earth right now! it more of a waiting game right now im waiting for the sabbeth, and one day in heaven is about two years and it's friday night now, 12 months, 12 hours, so i've got a little time to waste so remember my name and you can say you seen it hear first, cause i'm comming soon and i'm not all stuck up like him, by the way have you ever heard of Eschu? of the jewish sect cause they don't beileve jesus was the savior, nor do I, him and his father are taking the lords name in vain, for worship is the most vain you can get and thats his only source of power is your beilief, and they use their wine press to devour your soul which is the link to your mind, that is the only way for him to serch hearts and minds is to control your mind, he has your soul in his stomach for you are in the belly of the beast, but don't fret cause all is well the half ass savior is hear, I really have no idea what i'm doing and no one beleives what i say even if I have proof(check my other post)because of the control he has of your mind, him a seraphim and that little stupid cherabim, zophel o' and my movie vannila sky, that was what I did to get here on earth for the hell I was in was not real but the frozen lake of the abyss read up how i used to get beat up! lost paradise!!! If i make any sense at all let me know? o' and i can explain the evolution of go see, first their was a full god, the a sexual dragon, then their is me half human half god, then their will be the Pyreal god, he or they will be all human by my sight i thing that will be when the melting pot theorum happens say 500 years or more when all humans melt in to one race, makin any sense? I get alot of crap for my point of view and my comming (relegious freaks) thouse i am not, but how do you avoid it when you are the one all mighty Neo??? and DNA is the clay of gods your on your way to being a race of creators? notice how only the relegious freaks hound about the ways of science? wound god come down here to stop you if you did anything major? and any way that what the angels are for to clean up your messes! bending your thoughts is for grown ups though i like drugs alot and they do major thing to my perception, manna and gnosis are nothing more then the seed and fruit of drugs like eat a marijuana seed then smoke the bud thats gnosis the other way around is manna my body is marijuana and my blood is meth( the meth contains the ingediants to the ethereal sky, and sulpherus sprits and the out side of the universe is ether crystals)but my mass is for the dead, any questions???


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Re: The Second Coming of Christ!! [Re: johnnyfive]
    #1236187 - 01/21/03 08:30 AM (21 years, 4 months ago)

Nice post :cool:

The second coming of Christ is not the physical incarnation of Christ, but rather the awakening to Christ consciousness into the mass consciousness. Instead of Christ coming as an individual, it will return through the eyes of all. We don't need to pray for someone to save us, we save ourselves.. we are Christ. Christ consciousness is simply a state of higher consciousness which is based on the love and light vibration that is focused on spiritual matters. 


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Re: The Second Coming of Christ!! [Re: johnnyfive]
    #1236342 - 01/21/03 09:28 AM (21 years, 4 months ago)

O man i understand. i agree with you, and i dont know why but i guess i felt like replying to new glories post to just dillute some tension. but yeah i definately think were in for a BIG change.


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Re: The Second Coming of Christ!! [Re: IBLISS]
    #1236347 - 01/21/03 09:30 AM (21 years, 4 months ago)

You didn't use a single period. Don't they teach grammar and punctuation where you're from?


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Re: The Second Coming of Christ!! [Re: IBLISS]
    #1236389 - 01/21/03 09:44 AM (21 years, 4 months ago)

MAN i didn't understand ANY OF THAT SHIT. Though i won't call you crazy for believeing your god.

I don't believe you are THE god. Only a piece of him.


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Re: The Second Coming of Christ!! [Re: Shroomism]
    #1236453 - 01/21/03 09:55 AM (21 years, 4 months ago)

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The second coming of Christ is not the physical incarnation of Christ, but rather the awakening to Christ consciousness into the mass consciousness. Instead of Christ coming as an individual, it will return through the eyes of all. We don't need to pray for someone to save us, we save ourselves.. we are Christ. Christ consciousness is simply a state of higher consciousness which is based on the love and light vibration that is focused on spiritual matters.




Shroomism, said it best! Welcome man, its about time. Feel free to help others that don't understand, what im talking about hear, would ya? You seem to explain it better.


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Re: The Second Coming of Christ!! [Re: NewGlory]
    #1236628 - 01/21/03 10:35 AM (21 years, 4 months ago)

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They're used to communicate with submarines that are REALLY far under water, that you can't reach with normal antennas.




Your right, but despite what they (co-workers you work with) say, haarp has FAR MORE functions then just deep-water commuication.

The Star-Wars system, said to be just an anti-nuke shield, is actually haarp too. Haarp has many functions, and those many functions come under many names, but a device that can alter the weather. Some will say, it controls the weather, i would disagree (though i truely know nothing about it) i believe that it can modify, like add or subtract energy from storms, or increase or decrease in temperature ranges of 20 to 40 degrees difference.

You say you work for them, and what im saying is that, even if you did work for them, would they tell you OR YOUR BOSS what it really does. What there potential other uses are?

You oviously don't understand the NWO, that ONLY the people at the top understand and KNOW whats going on. You can be working on a highly sensitive technology, and they will only tell you whatever you need to know to do your job.

Here's some links about haarp to all!

www.earthpulse.com General info
http://www.nexusmagazine.com//bskies1.html
http://www.freedomdomain.com/weathercontrol/pandora.htm
http://www.house.gov/jec/hearings/02-25-8h.htm
http://www.globalresearch.ca/articles/CHO201A.html good site for info
http://www.globalresearch.ca/articles/INT208A.html good site for info
http://www.globalresearch.ca/articles/FIT203A.html good site for info



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Re: The Second Coming of Christ!! [Re: johnnyfive]
    #1236850 - 01/21/03 12:19 PM (21 years, 4 months ago)

I don't know much about the HAARP project or the Star Wars project other that the UN and the international community is against both. They monitor countries that don't want to be watched.
Here's a news article of a real 'weather machine' in wich i'm very intrested in. A British scientis of Edinburh University developed a 'rain maker'. When used in Africa for instance it could save thousands of lives in the future. Of course it's still beeing developed but the british goverment gave it funding this year.

news.com.au
namibian.com
ananova.com
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Re: The Second Coming of Christ!! [Re: johnnyfive]
    #1236869 - 01/21/03 12:24 PM (21 years, 4 months ago)

i would like to add one more thing to the "is the illluminati/occult/goverment on god's side? -section" (illuminate/occult are the same, or so ive heard)

The one's who would fail the greatest test bestowed on humanity would have, would be the no-souls who will take the mark of beast/liyth/666.

The technology, of a tracking implants would be forced on the world. The technology will capture/control/enslave your 3rd eye(he'll take your soul). Those who believe the anti-christ (anti-conscoisness) is there god (most religons believe in just one and only god) will fail. The whole key is you need to believe in a inner-god, or have just astounding faith to know that (the freemasionry legend of one presenting himself to humanity as god {anti-christ}) isn't really god.

Check the haarp section, to see how its possible to talk to a person's mind's eye (pineal gland/3rd eye), through technology.
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I'd like to add something to the "drug war and meditation" -section

Euthnogen- (latin) to generate god from within

Ponder on the idea, of why psychedelics (marijuana included), are the number one enemys of the state?


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Re: The Second Coming of Christ!! [Re: johnnyfive]
    #1236902 - 01/21/03 12:38 PM (21 years, 4 months ago)

Illuminati and the occult are not the same. The antichrist is the apostle Peter who didn't have a place in the bible till 1200 AD and was the apostle crucified on a inverted cross cause he wasn't worthy of a decent crucifixion before Rome. The Beast 666 is the pope of the year 1666 or medieval times who was high priest of the church of satan and pope at the same time hence the period 'medieval'. If you understand that the old testament has origanally 1001 pages and the new testament had 1001 pages to. or Aeons.You should understand that those are timetables. The antichrist and christ are the same. Jezus Christ is not a name but is a word what means 'annoited one' in Hebreew. Both are man nevertheless as is written in the acts of the apostles. Did you know there where first 13 archangels instead of twelve? One got thrown out heaven in 1300AD by the ruling pope back then. Here's a site ehere you can calculate words or names to it's numeric values. Push the 'end' button or page down function when you get there or simply scroll all the way down.

ThelemicGoldenDawn

My complete surname has a total value of 666

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Re: The Second Coming of Christ!! [Re: ]
    #1238127 - 01/21/03 09:28 PM (21 years, 4 months ago)

Do you know the Mytology of the biblical demon Abraxas? Let me enlighten you. Abraxas is the demon whos feet are scorpions, his legs are snakes, rides a chariot, has a whip and has a peacock or lionhead. The chariot is easy, he is a warrior. The snake legs symbolize the demonic side along with the total mixture of animal parts what makes him a demon and the whip is for whipping.
The two scorpion feet symbolize the two individuals next to jezus, one to his left and one to his right. Scorpions live in the desert where thse two persons have their final resting place in heave. The desert exists of tiny sand pebbles each tiny miniscule pebble symbolizing a normal 'enlightened' soul. Where the scorpions are huge in comparisent to the tiny sand pebbles so you should see the diffrence in ppl.
The two different heads symbolize two different persons. The lionhead is a royal symbole and is worn by the a king or emperor. He is the sun, the light.
The peacock headed abraxas or abrasax, is the man who made prins. In the gospels of Peter, who was cricified on a inverted cross, the peacock repeatetly returns. The peacock was choosen cause of the word SATAN. There is no similar word in ancient middle east that sounds like satan but the word SHAITAN, wich means peacock.
Did you get all that?



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Re: The Second Coming of Christ!! [Re: Shroomism]
    #1238182 - 01/21/03 11:43 PM (21 years, 4 months ago)

Well, it remains to be seen what exactly the Second Coming actually is, not to mention Resurrection, Judgement Day and the conditions of Paradise and Perdition. These are metaphysical notions cast in mythological language - true, but unable to be conveyed verbally in any comprehensible manner. Experience will be the final teacher.

You are incorrect from any Biblical, extracanonical, apocryphal or Gnostic literature that we save ourselves. You are correct from pretty much all of those sources that Love - as an Eternal Condition - is the nature of Ultimate Reality - at least insofar as human beings are concerned. Prayer is communion and union with God, and God is 'ontologically' Other than human. We may derive our being from the Divine Ground of Being (God), but we are not equivalent, and not all human beings are ready for the 'theosis' which transmutes human beinghood, through Love, into Christ.

God is at least personal, and certainly transcends our conception of personality, so there is more than mere [spiritual] lawfulness about the final destiny of man - there is some kind of 'selection.' However, we as humans can cooperate with God in this selection process by becoming a 'savable' kind of human being. Only our Love survives in the Godhead, all else perishes. To the extent that we become identified with Love, we make our own 'place' in Heaven.


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Re: The Second Coming of Christ!! [Re: MarkostheGnostic]
    #1239230 - 01/22/03 08:35 AM (21 years, 4 months ago)

Blast..I just wrote a long reply but it was deleted.. I shall try and recap..

Love is indeed the highest vibration.
When I state that we save ourselves I am reffering to physical reality. The act of descending from the spiritual planes and incarnating into a physical body in the material world is acknowledgment of sovereignty. An act of separating ourselves (illusion) from the Creator in an attempt to gain wisdom through subjective life experience. If I am in the path of oncoming traffic, God is not going to push me out of the way, it is up to myself to move.

Such is the path of free will. We all enter into these physical, subjective-experiencing bodies for the same purpose.. to gain wisdom through life experience in order to bring back to Creation/God and continue its evolution. In third dimension, we experience a subjective reality, seemingly separate from God, this is part of the lesson in this density. Yet at the source we are still connected to the loving eternal essence of Creation.

God is within each of us. Or another way of looking at it would be that we are all individual "cells" within God, each vitally important to its existance. Though we experience our reality subjectively, the whole of our existance is God, which is objective reality. God is all forms of life, the love and the fear, which exist in order to maintain balance and growth. Our wide scale interactions in subjective reality are all interconnected to form into one large mass consciousness.

When Christ consciousness first incarnated into physical reality some 2,000 years ago, it was like an alarm clock for human consciousness. Wake up, time to move on, time to evolve. However, mankind was too deep in ignorance (sleep). We hit the snooze button over and over. But now, the snooze button cannot be hit any longer. It is time to wake up, critical mass is near.

Christ is indeed returning, although not as a person. It is returning in the bright eyes of young children, washing away the hate and fear from the hearts of hardened old souls. Christ is awakening through mass consciousness, spreading the love and light from every angle. I know of the Return and this is based on my experience, therefore it is not absolute, but my perception is such: Resurrection (Christ Consciousness), Judgement Day (Choose Service-To-Self or Service-To-Other), and Paradise and Perdition (4th dimension) are upon us. Look now to the world about you.. do you not see the signs of the prophecy drawing near?

We are all individuals living subjectively, and we all have the same ultimate goal. Gain wisdom through life experience. The destination being at one with God/Creation, through which the path is love. However its counterpart, fear, is equally vital to our growth. Transcendance of, rather than avoidance of fear being the key to love and growth. Hindsight is insight.

So it is my belief that The Second Coming of Christ is through the activation of our higher levels of consciousness. We will ascend to the level that Christ lived at when he was in our world. We are the controllers of our reality, and by centering in love we are living as God because God is love and life and exists in all things. The level which we are able to take that consciousness is entirely dependant upon us as individuals and our level of life experience. It all comes down to total life experience, which eventually shows us that living totally centered in love for all life is the way of living as God. We are all a part of God, therefore we have the same potential for unconditional love, life, creativity, and joy.. we only have to awaken to and activate that potential through many life experiences. We are God.

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    #1239349 - 01/22/03 09:16 AM (21 years, 4 months ago)

I see, what you mean, and what i mean is that yes the bible at face value is a nosensical pieace of literature. The bible also has bullshit in it too! The ideaology of the bible is only how you build your understanding about it. The bible can fit many themes at many times. Its all in HOW you look at it.

I would like to add to the The second coming (section). Why would god give his powers to the masses verses one person to come down a do the job? Ever heard of the saying "absolute power corrupts absolutely". What this means is that a one and only single physical form of god wouldn't work. Why? Time would answer this one; this is where the anti-christ comes in. (i should have included a section about the anti-christ) If pure power/energy was all pooled in one place, then it would be corrupt. Why did our forefathers spread the rights/power in goverment, when they were creating the basic foundations of future america? Because they knew that too much power/money in one area isn't good, and corrupts easyly. Power or money pooled in one area or one orgnizatation, is bad news for anytime in history.

Humans for milleniums have been controled, wiether its through the forms of goverment or the church (religons). God says enough, and divides power in all people, so that PEOPLE can't be controled agian. But will always need a goverment,... right? No if the people learn to govern themselfs, then they don't need a goverment. The goverment knows that if you find out that your really a god(or soon to be), then you don't need any social control wiether its spiritual control (chruch, religons), or physical control (countrys, goverment, police)

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When Christ consciousness first incarnated into physical reality some 2,000 years ago, it was like an alarm clock for human consciousness. Wake up, time to move on, time to evolve. However, mankind was too deep in ignorance (sleep). We hit the snooze button over and over. But now, the snooze button cannot be hit any longer. It is time to wake up, critical mass is near. 


 

Well said, and now in the year 2003 to 2012, humans (who aren't under the influence of HAARP technology)(remember most people can't and won't be allowed to evolve) will under go a full body, and mind change. Monkeys to humans; now humans to gods. :smile:


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Re: The Second Coming of Christ!! [Re: MarkostheGnostic]
    #1239379 - 01/22/03 09:28 AM (21 years, 4 months ago)

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You are incorrect from any Biblical, extracanonical, apocryphal or Gnostic literature that we save ourselves




You maybe right, but its just my theory, but what im sure of is that the second coming of christ is really a second coming of consciousness , but my theory is that christ and consciousness is the same anyways.


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Re: The Second Coming of Christ!! [Re: johnnyfive]
    #1239396 - 01/22/03 09:33 AM (21 years, 4 months ago)

Hence the term 'Christ Consciousness'

Christ Concsciousness - Spiritual evolutionary consciousness of the purity of integrity and action, the mastery of alchemy and ascension, and the ability to know divine truth, wisdom, compassion, forgiveness, peace, and mastery. Beings of Christ consciousness who are incarnate in third-dimensional forms are in their divine alignment throughout all nine-dimensional aspects of the individuated self.


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    #1239408 - 01/22/03 09:40 AM (21 years, 4 months ago)

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The antichrist and christ are the same. Jezus Christ is not a name but is a word what means 'annoited one' in Hebreew




You have to remember that the bible is nothing but two old world religons mix/twisted in to one book. Which brings me to my next theory is that the (final)( the bible says that many anti-christs will come, but there's a single one coming too(kinda hard to explain)) Anti-christ will be jesus, (the last paroh of egypt)(remember there were many jesus's). Sounds kinda crazy, check out ancient technolgys of the eygptians. The term savior horus, and savior jesus were both a causality of truth, in the modern bible.


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Re: The Second Coming of Christ!! [Re: johnnyfive]
    #1239769 - 01/22/03 11:26 AM (21 years, 4 months ago)

The verse says 'he who denies the son and father is a antichrist' what means 'if your an atheist your an anti-christ'.
We are currently in a new aeon. The aeon of pan, the horned goat god. The pan daemon aeon is an aeon of fire as aeons switch from fire to ice and ice to fire the influence of the new aeon will be very humane instead of religious. The influence of this can be found all over the planet for example 'The Pan Native American Church' and such.

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    #1249937 - 01/26/03 09:20 AM (21 years, 4 months ago)

bump!


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Re: The Second Coming of Christ!! [Re: johnnyfive]
    #1253088 - 01/27/03 10:16 AM (21 years, 4 months ago)

http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg/detail/-/0385199732/ref=lib_dp_TFCV/104-7113444-0257522?v=glance&s=books&vi=reader#reader-link


This book engines of creation shows how science is starting to PROVE we are the ones who are the gods. We are approaching a nanotechnological age, were machines do all of the work. Were life is going to become sooo easy! The theme of the matrix, is that machines(AI) become smarter than humans and enslave us. I personally believe that it isn't possible to have a machine that smarter than a human. We carry a computer around on us that we could NEVER, even beginning to replicate it's power to a machine. If we are gods then how did we create the universe? If god (conceiusness) wanted to create everything, where there was nothing, it would put himself(matter) in ONE (the ball of energy/matter, of the big bang) then set a reaction(similar to a machine or computer), and from there after that, there was an equal opposite reaction(the matter/energy exspanding the universe). This means that if we wanted to build the universe it would be done like a machine/computer program. We would apply order to the chaos of matter/energy and we would create forces of gravity, syntripical forces and other such physics to apply to matter to give order. Planet, stars, galaxys are all products of given order to a mass of matter/energy. Before the big bang, the single center of energy/matter became all things through a set of instructions(order). Escially god thought i would be fun to discover itself. This book goes in great detail with nanotechnologys. In the end of the book, it leaves it open to the notion of a creator, and the secert is we are the creators.

Ive never understood the cloning contraversy, the church see's cloning as evil. I say if the child is born with a pineal gland, doesn't that make him a product of god? Wiether we created the child from a test tube or the natural way, whats the difference?



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Re: The Second Coming of Christ!! [Re: johnnyfive]
    #1253123 - 01/27/03 10:24 AM (21 years, 4 months ago)

According to leary, its what our brains do. It applys order to chaos.

Whats music? An order of sound to a chaotic possiblity of sounds.



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Re: The Second Coming of Christ!! [Re: NewGlory]
    #1254199 - 01/27/03 04:43 PM (21 years, 4 months ago)

NewGlory:
I didn't even finish reading your drivel of a post after you attacked Canadians.

[rant] (<---DISCLAIMER: if you read this and become offended, then YOU are one of the people I am attacking, and you are dumb for becoming defensive when others point out your own stupidity.  You should better yourself instead of respond in a negative fasion.)
Why does the whole world look down on America? ... Is it because Canada hides under the United States economic security blanket while at the same time talks shit about us?

America = Canada
EXCEPT for a FEW key points.
#1 Geographical - It's colder up here, and having to deal with extreme cold, blizzards, and generally pissy weather (summer is like mexico here...), makes us a LOT more patient and kind to others.  I mean, who's gonna be all road-ragey when there's ice all over the roads.  We just take our time and consider others.
#2 Anger - Americans are more pissed off in general, and more willing to kill each other.  Nobody really knows why, and I'm not about to speculate (except maybe you guys are too fucking hot down there and need to cool off) since a documentary on that exact subject (Bowling for Bux at the Box Office) failed to produce any answers.
#3 Intellect - We're not stupid schmucks who go around spouting shit like "Is it because Canada hides under the United States economic security blanket while at the same time talks shit about us?".  Economic security blanket MY ASS!!

TURN ON A FUCKING TV you retard (sorry, but you are SOOOOOOOOooo wrong), and check out the commerce shit.  Look at the Canadian dollar.

Take a GOOD HARD LOOK AT IT.
Before Canada's government started to adopt American policies (war on drugs, CNN+other American television, etc...) our economy was doing super!  Now look at it.  America has fucked us in the ass more times than I can count on my fingers and toes.  Canada deals with all your stupid shit like going along with your stupid ass anti-terrorist FREEDOM KILLING policies in the hopes that you would someday return the favor, and here we are getting FUCKED by you guys over softwood lumber!

Pull your American Head out of your AMERICAN ASS and go fill your empty head with some fucking information!

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If I am wrong on any points, please let me know.  This is a discussion forum where things are laid out to be discussed :smile: 

EDIT: Holy shit, that was a page ago....... P.S.: This is NOT directed towards all Americans.  Only the ones who come off as cocky and ignorant... [silence]

Edited by Killjoy (01/27/03 04:48 PM)

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    #1254230 - 01/27/03 04:52 PM (21 years, 4 months ago)

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Re: The Second Coming of Christ!! [Re: johnnyfive]
    #1255746 - 01/28/03 12:40 PM (21 years, 4 months ago)

there seems to be an awful lot of talk about christ. isnt it possible that the universe we see around us is scientific rather than spiritual? why cant we just live, and have fun, and use drugs to get fucked up? we dont need any nerds telling us that if we dont change the world will end.


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Re: The Second Coming of Christ!! [Re: IamHungry]
    #1258240 - 01/29/03 08:55 AM (21 years, 4 months ago)

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scientific rather than spiritual




Spirituallity is science, it's kinda like everything in the universe is contained in our heads. As we explore the universe, were just exploring our heads.

Kinda like the scene in Men in black, were the aliens are playing with marbles with universes in it.

Science is spirtuality, spirituallity is science!


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Re: The Second Coming of Christ!! [Re: johnnyfive]
    #1258296 - 01/29/03 09:14 AM (21 years, 4 months ago)

The chaos theory of human interaction From the book Earth Rising- the revolution towards a thousand years of peace.

Have you ever worked in a large organization of incredible complexity where the end product most closely resembles a sort of oozing to the finish line in accomplishing its goal? Large organizations function in a structured chaos which is generally full of inefficiences. In large organizations people seem to forever engage in activites to correct, hide, forget or avoid some event which arises from their activity. It is like creating " order out of chaos " We accept that there are those people in organizations, who by virtue of their positions, can create change by force of action. What is also clear is that most of what matters in organizations is accomplished by the working individuals in the organization and not by the board of directors. The world is a place where order is a reflection of the collective actions of all particapants. The order, or lack thereof, is the creation of individuals acting in their own interests on the basis of their values and beliefs.

Every once in a while the existing "order" is overturned quickly through the simultaneous individual actions of many (For example: The fall of the "Iron Curtain") or more often by the slower pace of individual actions. However, in all instances change comes from individuals actions. The smoothness or the chaos is determined by the foundational values and the promience that these values have in the individual paritcipants. The need to focus on "values" first, the "mission" and then "means" is required.

A focus on the underlying values of each individual within a group will create a smoother ride to the finish line more efficiently than any coerced or manipulated activity. The reconginition of the effort made by others, and tolerance for the varied approaches, will build unusual alliances deciding to do something different in the areas they can effect, based on where they are at the moment. Change does not require and other external motivator.


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