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InvisibleSwami
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Question on one of J.C.'s teachings...
    #1142445 - 12/15/02 05:59 AM (23 years, 2 days ago)

If I have sinned by lusting after my neighbor's wife; and in Jesus' words, there is no difference between the thought and the act in the eyes of God, should I just go ahead and pound her on the kitchen table and incur no greater stain on my soul once I have already had the thought?


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Re: Question on one of J.C.'s teachings... [Re: Swami]
    #1142450 - 12/15/02 06:02 AM (23 years, 2 days ago)

Go for it.


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Re: Question on one of J.C.'s teachings... [Re: Swami]
    #1142470 - 12/15/02 06:10 AM (23 years, 2 days ago)

should I just go ahead and pound her on the kitchen table and incur no greater stain on my soul once I have already had the thought?

Not on my table....Thou shalt not fucketh where I eateth my bread

You might not stain your soul any further, but watch the table cloth.


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Re: Question on one of J.C.'s teachings... [Re: 3eyedgod]
    #1142477 - 12/15/02 06:13 AM (23 years, 2 days ago)

Thou shalt not fucketh where I eateth my bread.

LOL! Ah, the "lost" 11th Commandment resurfaces...



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Re: Question on one of J.C.'s teachings... [Re: Swami]
    #1142494 - 12/15/02 06:20 AM (23 years, 2 days ago)

How big is her husband?


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Re: Question on one of J.C.'s teachings... [Re: Swami]
    #1142496 - 12/15/02 06:20 AM (23 years, 2 days ago)

I wonder if Jesus said half of the things attributed to him



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Re: Question on one of J.C.'s teachings... [Re: Swami]
    #1142520 - 12/15/02 06:30 AM (23 years, 2 days ago)

Only if your neighbor gets to fornicate your wife on your kitchen table. The act commited as retribution for your previous sins may have viable substituion rights whereas the kitchen table may be substituted for either A) your couch, or B) your washing machine (unbalanced by 4 loin cloths, creating a rocking motion), but only if the committee agrees to forfit the virgin rights of his 19 year old daughter upon a day which menstruation is minimal.

Acknowledge, ponder, and discuss.


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Re: Question on one of J.C.'s teachings... [Re: Phluck]
    #1142522 - 12/15/02 06:32 AM (23 years, 2 days ago)

How big is her husband?

So the physical implications are more important than the spiritual implications?


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Re: Question on one of J.C.'s teachings... [Re: Swami]
    #1142533 - 12/15/02 06:37 AM (23 years, 2 days ago)

I think you misunderstand what Jesus meant by that.


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Re: Question on one of J.C.'s teachings... [Re: Swami]
    #1142563 - 12/15/02 07:00 AM (23 years, 2 days ago)

Even Carl Sagan can point out your illogical interpretation.


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Re: Question on one of J.C.'s teachings... [Re: Zahid]
    #1142592 - 12/15/02 07:17 AM (23 years, 2 days ago)

You can "channel" Carl Sagan? Cool!


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Re: Question on one of J.C.'s teachings... [Re: Revelation]
    #1142596 - 12/15/02 07:19 AM (23 years, 2 days ago)

I think you misunderstand what Jesus meant by that.

Perhaps that is why I asked the question...



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Re: Question on one of J.C.'s teachings... [Re: Swami]
    #1142601 - 12/15/02 07:23 AM (23 years, 2 days ago)

In reply to:

Phluck:
How big is her husband?

Swami:
So the physical implications are more important than the spiritual implications?




Yes, they are... especially if he's well hung, bisexual and surprises you from behind during the act.


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Re: Question on one of J.C.'s teachings... [Re: Swami]
    #1142691 - 12/15/02 08:22 AM (23 years, 2 days ago)

... with one sin you go to hell, so whats the worry of a few more?

This reminds me of a poem I saw once:

Murder is evil,
Evil is Sin,
Sin is forgiven,
So do it again!


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Re: Question on one of J.C.'s teachings... [Re: Swami]
    #1142710 - 12/15/02 08:31 AM (23 years, 2 days ago)

Okay. This is what I think it means, but i'm not very good at expressing this type of thing, so it's Be Here Now to the rescue again..

"Except ye be converted and become as little children, ye shall not enter the kingdom of heaven

Unless you start again. become that trusting open surrendered being, the energy can't come in. that is the kingdom of heaven."

It isn't about sin really, it's about purifying the mind. How could you become one with god if you're mind is at a level which is below god? It doesn't "fit".

It's not like god is punishing you or anything. It's just the way it works. It couldn't be any other way.

The reason there is no difference between the thought and the act is because, in terms of conscioussness, there just isn't too much of a difference. It's about conscioussness.

When you take away the idea of it all being about punishment and eternal damnation, then it begins to make sense.


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Re: Question on one of J.C.'s teachings... [Re: Revelation]
    #1142723 - 12/15/02 08:39 AM (23 years, 2 days ago)

How could you become one with god if you're mind is at a level which is below god?

Doesn't creating a dichotomy by saying reproductive instincts are "bad" further divide us through guilt and make us less whole or less holy?


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Re: Question on one of J.C.'s teachings... [Re: Swami]
    #1142728 - 12/15/02 08:43 AM (23 years, 2 days ago)

Yes it does.


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Re: Question on one of J.C.'s teachings... [Re: Swami]
    #1142794 - 12/15/02 09:26 AM (23 years, 2 days ago)

I don't really care about the spiritual reasons. I'd say if you're a decent person, you'd care about the husband's feelings, and know that this would be horrible for him.

Maybe you hate the husband... in which case, yes, the physical implications are more important.


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Re: Question on one of J.C.'s teachings... [Re: Swami]
    #1142874 - 12/15/02 10:00 AM (23 years, 2 days ago)

Monogamy is one of the biggest scams and means of control humanity has ever devised. I highly doubt the real historical Jesus ever said such a thing to begin with.

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