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InvisibleSclorch
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Your Beliefs Are Bullshit
    #3011939 - 08/17/04 03:53 AM (12 years, 3 months ago)

Did the subject title offend you? Even just a little?
Why?

Is it because you haven't familiarized yourself with this possibility (that your beliefs are bullshit)... enough so that you are comfortable reading such a line without ego?
It's hard at first. We wrap everything we encounter around ourselves... and centrify it.
That's my shortcut word for the egocentric process.

These symbols (letters) are inherently neutral, are they not?
The mind attributes meaning to them (based on life experience)... and then matches up a response (such as being offended)...
But the mind IS you.

Sticks and stones as they say...


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Re: Your Beliefs Are Bullshit [Re: Sclorch]
    #3011957 - 08/17/04 04:00 AM (12 years, 3 months ago)

Although I often say "I believe this" or "I feel that this is the case.." or whatever, I rarely mean "THIS IS HOW IT IS; I KNOW IT" because I have quickly learned that whenever it seems like I may have a nice picture of any given subject, it can all get rocked by one small piece of information that I had missed out on or hasn't even been discovered by anybody yet.

But at times there are things that I get pretty convinced of that I can have difficulty releasing, even in the face of logical disproof.


At the same time though there are things that I have to believe in even if it sometimes gets hard to believe in, like the fact that I kick ass and am able to live my life at least semi-comfortably (physically and mentally) and accomplish my other main goals :wink:


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Re: Your Beliefs Are Bullshit [Re: Sclorch]
    #3011985 - 08/17/04 04:12 AM (12 years, 3 months ago)

I believe that you are a good friend and a cool dude. Is my belief bullshit?


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Re: Your Beliefs Are Bullshit [Re: Sclorch]
    #3012030 - 08/17/04 04:48 AM (12 years, 3 months ago)

Your Beliefs Are Bullshit.


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Re: Your Beliefs Are Bullshit [Re: Sclorch]
    #3012055 - 08/17/04 05:09 AM (12 years, 3 months ago)

"Did the subject title offend you? Even just a little?"

no, I came to realization that I don't know everyhing and can't know everything long ago.  why....are you looking to offend?  what is your intent?  why is that the first thing stated in your post?

"Is it because you haven't familiarized yourself with this possibility (that your beliefs are bullshit)... enough so that you are comfortable reading such a line without ego?"

without ego..or with a  healthy ego ?

"These symbols (letters) are inherently neutral, are they not?"

the depends on the intent behind the words.

"But the mind IS you."

I disagree with this statement.  reason is that I feel "I" my essence is conscious-awareness.

btw...great to see you are ok from the hurricane sclorch.  :grin:


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Re: Your Beliefs Are Bullshit [Re: Sclorch]
    #3012080 - 08/17/04 05:22 AM (12 years, 3 months ago)

Your beliefs are bullshit is bullshit  :wink:


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Re: Your Beliefs Are Bullshit [Re: Sclorch]
    #3012436 - 08/17/04 09:55 AM (12 years, 3 months ago)

Belief System = B.S.

there is no escape


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Re: Your Beliefs Are Bullshit [Re: Sclorch]
    #3012458 - 08/17/04 10:06 AM (12 years, 3 months ago)

i dont have any beliefs...like all people im not really sure...i dont really know.....actually i do know one thing, christiany,judaism and islam are all complete horse shit


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Re: Your Beliefs Are Bullshit [Re: Sclorch]
    #3012480 - 08/17/04 10:17 AM (12 years, 3 months ago)

I dont believe, I know, so you cant hurt me. There is only the right option and the bad option, and the right option comes from love.

Ppl, watch this movie: Intermission

thats how everyone should be :laugh: and we would all be happy, all the time. :smile:

-" I have only one weakness, thats that I dont have them" , fellow friend of mine. :laugh:


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Re: Your Beliefs Are Bullshit [Re: KingOftheThing]
    #3012760 - 08/17/04 11:47 AM (12 years, 3 months ago)

If you don't know anything, then how could you possibly know that monotheistic religions are "horse shit"? Is it possible that your real problem is with God?


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Re: Your Beliefs Are Bullshit [Re: Sclorch]
    #3012860 - 08/17/04 12:34 PM (12 years, 3 months ago)

i know better then you so i did not get offended


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Re: Your Beliefs Are Bullshit [Re: KingOftheThing]
    #3012987 - 08/17/04 12:58 PM (12 years, 3 months ago)

christiany,judaism and islam are all complete horse shit

wtf? while all of these religions are flawed, what their problem is is that they have become politicized and so their leaders have a vested interest in maintaining power, thus leading to the violence and repression inherent in modern monotheism. try to keep in mind that they are the product of thousands of years of evolution (as a religious theory) and their fundemental beliefs (containing the oldest parts of their teachings which are polytheistic and animist) are identical with not only each other but with most other religious systems in the world. be nice to each other and don't kill unecessarily.
i find your comment to be somewhat irresponsible and immature. don't mean to offend.

tke


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Re: Your Beliefs Are Bullshit [Re: kaiowas]
    #3012992 - 08/17/04 01:00 PM (12 years, 3 months ago)

great reply!

tke


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Re: Your Beliefs Are Bullshit [Re: kaiowas]
    #3014577 - 08/17/04 06:09 PM (12 years, 3 months ago)

"Did the subject title offend you? Even just a little?"
k: no, I came to realization that I don't know everyhing and can't know everything long ago.  why....are you looking to offend?  what is your intent?  why is that the first thing stated in your post?

Can't admit it, eh?  It's hard...  trying to turn things around is an indicator... there's no argument here... just some talk.

"Is it because you haven't familiarized yourself with this possibility (that your beliefs are bullshit)... enough so that you are comfortable reading such a line without ego?"
without ego..or with a  healthy ego ?

Great... now we can argue over the definition of a modifier... yawn.
It makes no difference in the end.  If you trip on your ego, only one thing happens.

"These symbols (letters) are inherently neutral, are they not?"
the depends on the intent behind the words.

NO, it depends on nothing.  There is no inherent meaning in the words.
The ego is always looking for intent.  Hence the concept of GOD, supernatural, aliens, etc.

"But the mind IS you."
I disagree with this statement.  reason is that I feel "I" my essence is conscious-awareness.

Disagree all you want.  You are the process, the grey-tissued processor, and the fleshy body encasing it all... CHONPS...

btw...great to see you are ok from the hurricane sclorch.  :grin:

I called that shit when the damn thing hit Cuba.  Basic probability and familiarity with newtonian physics (inertia and whatnot).  Thanks, btw... :wink:


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Re: Your Beliefs Are Bullshit [Re: Swami]
    #3014588 - 08/17/04 06:12 PM (12 years, 3 months ago)

Quote:

Swami said:
I believe that you are a good friend and a cool dude. Is my belief bullshit?




It might be.... but that's besides the point.
If you can't mull this over without gnarling up your guts, then you have a little more work to do on keeping that ego in check.


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Re: Your Beliefs Are Bullshit [Re: Sclorch]
    #3014647 - 08/17/04 06:24 PM (12 years, 3 months ago)

OK, so my ego is a little inflated...



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Re: Your Beliefs Are Bullshit [Re: Sclorch]
    #3014671 - 08/17/04 06:29 PM (12 years, 3 months ago)

I believe that you are smart and that your mother is extremely chaste.

:tongue:


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Re: Your Beliefs Are Bullshit [Re: Lazerouth]
    #3014673 - 08/17/04 06:30 PM (12 years, 3 months ago)

lol!


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Re: Your Beliefs Are Bullshit [Re: Sclorch]
    #3014714 - 08/17/04 06:42 PM (12 years, 3 months ago)

Sclorch has this one nailed like jesus


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Re: Your Beliefs Are Bullshit [Re: Sclorch]
    #3014744 - 08/17/04 06:48 PM (12 years, 3 months ago)

Agreed. Basic psychology, is it not? If only schools would start making psychology classes mandatory.

The only detail of the premise in your post that I find hard to completely agree with.. [which may just be the result of my mind semi-automatically defending it's egoistic beliefs derived on my life experiences, of course] is: "Your mind IS you."

I can already see the "Baseball-bat-to-head" Sclorch challenge coming up, right along with Swami's 20k "Head-to-wall" challenge..
:wink:


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