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validating beliefs through action
    #5693446 - 05/31/06 12:36 AM (17 years, 7 months ago)

when you believe and act accordingly, you are validating your beliefs. 

many people have wished unjustly that I believe or practice certain things. 

The truth is, I practice all things, and no things.  My way is the way between ways, for I would not want to validate or invalidate any set of beliefs, unless they just suck all around :lol:

I appreciate all religions, and would not want to exhault one over the other.  That is bigotry, plain and simple. 

different religions are beautiful, because they are all just re-phrasings of the same metaphor.  I find cultures so fascinating, I would never want a single culture to dominate the earth. 

That is why I prefer to help others find their own nature, as opposed to simply converting them to mine. 

For instance, I hang out with gay people who haven't figured out that they are gay yet.  Now, I'm straight as an arrow myself, but if A friend of mine isn't happy with women and wants to be with men instead, I say: "Go for it!" 

Who am I to say how he can live his life?  If what he wants hurts no one else, then I say let him be himself! 

I like variety.  Look at the world around you!  Birds, trees, sky, all te colors.  We have all of these things by virtue of beings being themselves. 

And so, I validate my many varied beliefs through my own actions, and you validate your many varied beliefs with yours.  As long as we stay out of eachother's way when necessary, there will be no wars or conflicts.  Isn't life fun?


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Re: validating beliefs through action [Re: DoctorJ]
    #5693460 - 05/31/06 12:42 AM (17 years, 7 months ago)

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That is why I prefer to help others find their own nature, as opposed to simply converting them to mine.



In general, I agree. But sometimes someone's own nature imposes things onto others. For example, someone might be aggressive or mean-spirited. Of course, the best way to help them isn't to get them to change those qualities, but rather help them channel that energy constructively. Then again, that only works if they actually want to be helped. If they don't, then the best thing is just to avoid them and let them be who they are. Sometimes people need to figure things out for themselves.


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Re: validating beliefs through action [Re: Silversoul]
    #5693469 - 05/31/06 12:46 AM (17 years, 7 months ago)

wise words, brother


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Re: validating beliefs through action [Re: DoctorJ]
    #5693649 - 05/31/06 02:04 AM (17 years, 7 months ago)

It's simply too much trouble to act consistently with one's convictions.


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Re: validating beliefs through action [Re: it stars saddam]
    #5693652 - 05/31/06 02:07 AM (17 years, 7 months ago)

it's too much trouble NOT to act consistetly with one's convictions.

you just haven't figured that out yet!

by the time you do figure it out, it will be too late. that's my prediction.

have fun mowing the lawn to pay for all the windows you've broken!


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Re: validating beliefs through action [Re: it stars saddam]
    #5693694 - 05/31/06 02:22 AM (17 years, 7 months ago)

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itstarssaddam said:
It's simply too much trouble to act consistently with one's convictions.




For me I agree, Despite my best intentions it serves only to revert me spiraling back into negative gs,


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Re: validating beliefs through action [Re: capliberty]
    #5693724 - 05/31/06 02:45 AM (17 years, 7 months ago)

sounds to me like you have bad karma

that ain't gonna clean up itself, you know :lol:


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Re: validating beliefs through action [Re: DoctorJ]
    #5693738 - 05/31/06 02:57 AM (17 years, 7 months ago)

karma is just an easily accepted concept to justify or explain what can't be explained

bad luck.. Oh just blame it on karma, cause I don't know the answer, must be bad karma,

I don't prescribe myself to karma, better to just accept the responsiblity.


Edited by capliberty (05/31/06 02:57 AM)


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Re: validating beliefs through action [Re: capliberty]
    #5693747 - 05/31/06 03:03 AM (17 years, 7 months ago)

karma is responsibility!

if you do not believe that you will pay for your sins, you are cheating yourself and getting in way over your head.

what go around come around, kid.


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    #5693766 - 05/31/06 03:20 AM (17 years, 7 months ago)

If karma was responsibility, then there wouldn't be no reason to have two words for the same definition.

In contrary to popular belief everything doesn't revolve around an axis.


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Re: validating beliefs through action [Re: capliberty]
    #5693771 - 05/31/06 03:23 AM (17 years, 7 months ago)

suit yourself :shrug:
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Re: validating beliefs through action [Re: capliberty]
    #5693774 - 05/31/06 03:26 AM (17 years, 7 months ago)

the only ones who truly understand christ consciousness are those who are not corrupted by its awesome power.

you may be christ conscious in your ability to love good universally,

but can you love evil in the same regard?

you think you could be that big a man, as Christ himself, who asked God to forgive those that murdered him?

Unless you understand and practice the true nature of christ, you are far from saved. In fact you are in very dire peril.


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Re: validating beliefs through action [Re: DoctorJ]
    #5693784 - 05/31/06 03:39 AM (17 years, 7 months ago)

I could argue all night and day about what christian doctorine means to you and me, I have no reason to go into such a discussion, you have your beliefs I have mine.


Edited by capliberty (05/31/06 03:40 AM)


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Re: validating beliefs through action [Re: capliberty]
    #5693789 - 05/31/06 03:45 AM (17 years, 7 months ago)

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I could argue all night and day about what christian doctorine means to you and me, I have no reason to go into such a discussion, you have your beliefs I have mine.





well, rather than what it means to you or me, why don't you take it for what it is?


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Re: validating beliefs through action [Re: KidgardFromSRQ]
    #5693796 - 05/31/06 03:53 AM (17 years, 7 months ago)

What it is, is debatable, in which each person has their individual beliefs, and that would require a lengthy discussion that I rather leave alone. LOL


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Re: validating beliefs through action [Re: capliberty]
    #5693895 - 05/31/06 05:36 AM (17 years, 7 months ago)

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What it is, is debatable, in which each person has their individual beliefs, and that would require a lengthy discussion that I rather leave alone. LOL




what i ment by that was, ultimatley the message of christ was to love one another, believe in god and all that good stuff. and it is good stuff. so, why not just look at it like that. whether or not he was real (i for one strongly beleive he was), just take it for what its worth. the value you can find in it. and if you can't find any, thats when theres a lengthy discussion truely needed.


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Re: validating beliefs through action [Re: KidgardFromSRQ]
    #5693928 - 05/31/06 06:04 AM (17 years, 7 months ago)

-----just take it for what its worth. the value you can find in it. and if you can't find any, thats when theres a lengthy discussion truly needed. ---------

Thats where I have a problem, thus the lengthy discussion. I see alto of gullibility in organized religion, I understand both sides of the spectrum, being agnostic and having faith in Christ, all these beliefs and postulated prospectives like "being saved", how does this apply to my day to day life. Alot of self righteous religious people do so much stuff that I don't agree with. Such as the war that GW created. Because of ideological pride we guide ourselves further into corruption instead of the true light. Look at all those Bennie Henn followers, They believe in that fraud, that hes doing all these miracles in the name of God.

This is just the tip of the iceberg when it comes to my criticisms


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Re: validating beliefs through action [Re: DoctorJ]
    #5693968 - 05/31/06 06:35 AM (17 years, 7 months ago)

beliefs cannot be validated (made true) because they are just that, beliefs. Not facts, hell, not even ideas. Similar to Chris Rock's line in Dogma.

Beliefs are very powerful.


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Re: validating beliefs through action [Re: KidgardFromSRQ]
    #5695122 - 05/31/06 02:25 PM (17 years, 7 months ago)

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ultimatley the message of christ was to love one another, believe in god and all that good stuff. and it is good stuff. so, why not just look at it like that. whether or not he was real (i for one strongly beleive he was), just take it for what its worth.




Yeah, I mean sure, it might be completely devoid of any validity, but suspend all disbelief and just blindly accept it goddammit!


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Re: validating beliefs through action [Re: KidgardFromSRQ]
    #5695141 - 05/31/06 02:29 PM (17 years, 7 months ago)

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What it is, is debatable, in which each person has their individual beliefs, and that would require a lengthy discussion that I rather leave alone. LOL




what i ment by that was, ultimatley the message of christ was to love one another, believe in god and all that good stuff. and it is good stuff. so, why not just look at it like that. whether or not he was real (i for one strongly beleive he was), just take it for what its worth. the value you can find in it. and if you can't find any, thats when theres a lengthy discussion truely needed.




actually, there is a large group of people who think Christ should be a warrior who smites the wicked.

Then there's another group that wants him to be peace and love

How is Christ supposed to satisfy all these people when their interests conflict directly?

He does. I can't tell you how, but he does.


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