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validating beliefs through action
    #5693446 - 05/31/06 12:36 AM (17 years, 7 months ago)

when you believe and act accordingly, you are validating your beliefs. 

many people have wished unjustly that I believe or practice certain things. 

The truth is, I practice all things, and no things.  My way is the way between ways, for I would not want to validate or invalidate any set of beliefs, unless they just suck all around :lol:

I appreciate all religions, and would not want to exhault one over the other.  That is bigotry, plain and simple. 

different religions are beautiful, because they are all just re-phrasings of the same metaphor.  I find cultures so fascinating, I would never want a single culture to dominate the earth. 

That is why I prefer to help others find their own nature, as opposed to simply converting them to mine. 

For instance, I hang out with gay people who haven't figured out that they are gay yet.  Now, I'm straight as an arrow myself, but if A friend of mine isn't happy with women and wants to be with men instead, I say: "Go for it!" 

Who am I to say how he can live his life?  If what he wants hurts no one else, then I say let him be himself! 

I like variety.  Look at the world around you!  Birds, trees, sky, all te colors.  We have all of these things by virtue of beings being themselves. 

And so, I validate my many varied beliefs through my own actions, and you validate your many varied beliefs with yours.  As long as we stay out of eachother's way when necessary, there will be no wars or conflicts.  Isn't life fun?


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Re: validating beliefs through action [Re: DoctorJ]
    #5693460 - 05/31/06 12:42 AM (17 years, 7 months ago)

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That is why I prefer to help others find their own nature, as opposed to simply converting them to mine.



In general, I agree. But sometimes someone's own nature imposes things onto others. For example, someone might be aggressive or mean-spirited. Of course, the best way to help them isn't to get them to change those qualities, but rather help them channel that energy constructively. Then again, that only works if they actually want to be helped. If they don't, then the best thing is just to avoid them and let them be who they are. Sometimes people need to figure things out for themselves.


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Re: validating beliefs through action [Re: Silversoul]
    #5693469 - 05/31/06 12:46 AM (17 years, 7 months ago)

wise words, brother


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Re: validating beliefs through action [Re: DoctorJ]
    #5693649 - 05/31/06 02:04 AM (17 years, 7 months ago)

It's simply too much trouble to act consistently with one's convictions.


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Re: validating beliefs through action [Re: it stars saddam]
    #5693652 - 05/31/06 02:07 AM (17 years, 7 months ago)

it's too much trouble NOT to act consistetly with one's convictions.

you just haven't figured that out yet!

by the time you do figure it out, it will be too late. that's my prediction.

have fun mowing the lawn to pay for all the windows you've broken!


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Re: validating beliefs through action [Re: it stars saddam]
    #5693694 - 05/31/06 02:22 AM (17 years, 7 months ago)

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itstarssaddam said:
It's simply too much trouble to act consistently with one's convictions.




For me I agree, Despite my best intentions it serves only to revert me spiraling back into negative gs,


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Re: validating beliefs through action [Re: capliberty]
    #5693724 - 05/31/06 02:45 AM (17 years, 7 months ago)

sounds to me like you have bad karma

that ain't gonna clean up itself, you know :lol:


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Re: validating beliefs through action [Re: DoctorJ]
    #5693738 - 05/31/06 02:57 AM (17 years, 7 months ago)

karma is just an easily accepted concept to justify or explain what can't be explained

bad luck.. Oh just blame it on karma, cause I don't know the answer, must be bad karma,

I don't prescribe myself to karma, better to just accept the responsiblity.


Edited by capliberty (05/31/06 02:57 AM)


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Re: validating beliefs through action [Re: capliberty]
    #5693747 - 05/31/06 03:03 AM (17 years, 7 months ago)

karma is responsibility!

if you do not believe that you will pay for your sins, you are cheating yourself and getting in way over your head.

what go around come around, kid.


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Re: validating beliefs through action [Re: DoctorJ]
    #5693766 - 05/31/06 03:20 AM (17 years, 7 months ago)

If karma was responsibility, then there wouldn't be no reason to have two words for the same definition.

In contrary to popular belief everything doesn't revolve around an axis.


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Re: validating beliefs through action [Re: capliberty]
    #5693771 - 05/31/06 03:23 AM (17 years, 7 months ago)

suit yourself :shrug:
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Re: validating beliefs through action [Re: capliberty]
    #5693774 - 05/31/06 03:26 AM (17 years, 7 months ago)

the only ones who truly understand christ consciousness are those who are not corrupted by its awesome power.

you may be christ conscious in your ability to love good universally,

but can you love evil in the same regard?

you think you could be that big a man, as Christ himself, who asked God to forgive those that murdered him?

Unless you understand and practice the true nature of christ, you are far from saved. In fact you are in very dire peril.


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Re: validating beliefs through action [Re: DoctorJ]
    #5693784 - 05/31/06 03:39 AM (17 years, 7 months ago)

I could argue all night and day about what christian doctorine means to you and me, I have no reason to go into such a discussion, you have your beliefs I have mine.


Edited by capliberty (05/31/06 03:40 AM)


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Re: validating beliefs through action [Re: capliberty]
    #5693789 - 05/31/06 03:45 AM (17 years, 7 months ago)

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I could argue all night and day about what christian doctorine means to you and me, I have no reason to go into such a discussion, you have your beliefs I have mine.





well, rather than what it means to you or me, why don't you take it for what it is?


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Re: validating beliefs through action [Re: KidgardFromSRQ]
    #5693796 - 05/31/06 03:53 AM (17 years, 7 months ago)

What it is, is debatable, in which each person has their individual beliefs, and that would require a lengthy discussion that I rather leave alone. LOL


Edited by capliberty (05/31/06 03:54 AM)


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Re: validating beliefs through action [Re: capliberty]
    #5693895 - 05/31/06 05:36 AM (17 years, 7 months ago)

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What it is, is debatable, in which each person has their individual beliefs, and that would require a lengthy discussion that I rather leave alone. LOL




what i ment by that was, ultimatley the message of christ was to love one another, believe in god and all that good stuff. and it is good stuff. so, why not just look at it like that. whether or not he was real (i for one strongly beleive he was), just take it for what its worth. the value you can find in it. and if you can't find any, thats when theres a lengthy discussion truely needed.


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Re: validating beliefs through action [Re: KidgardFromSRQ]
    #5693928 - 05/31/06 06:04 AM (17 years, 7 months ago)

-----just take it for what its worth. the value you can find in it. and if you can't find any, thats when theres a lengthy discussion truly needed. ---------

Thats where I have a problem, thus the lengthy discussion. I see alto of gullibility in organized religion, I understand both sides of the spectrum, being agnostic and having faith in Christ, all these beliefs and postulated prospectives like "being saved", how does this apply to my day to day life. Alot of self righteous religious people do so much stuff that I don't agree with. Such as the war that GW created. Because of ideological pride we guide ourselves further into corruption instead of the true light. Look at all those Bennie Henn followers, They believe in that fraud, that hes doing all these miracles in the name of God.

This is just the tip of the iceberg when it comes to my criticisms


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Re: validating beliefs through action [Re: DoctorJ]
    #5693968 - 05/31/06 06:35 AM (17 years, 7 months ago)

beliefs cannot be validated (made true) because they are just that, beliefs. Not facts, hell, not even ideas. Similar to Chris Rock's line in Dogma.

Beliefs are very powerful.


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Re: validating beliefs through action [Re: KidgardFromSRQ]
    #5695122 - 05/31/06 02:25 PM (17 years, 7 months ago)

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ultimatley the message of christ was to love one another, believe in god and all that good stuff. and it is good stuff. so, why not just look at it like that. whether or not he was real (i for one strongly beleive he was), just take it for what its worth.




Yeah, I mean sure, it might be completely devoid of any validity, but suspend all disbelief and just blindly accept it goddammit!


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Re: validating beliefs through action [Re: KidgardFromSRQ]
    #5695141 - 05/31/06 02:29 PM (17 years, 7 months ago)

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capliberty said:
What it is, is debatable, in which each person has their individual beliefs, and that would require a lengthy discussion that I rather leave alone. LOL




what i ment by that was, ultimatley the message of christ was to love one another, believe in god and all that good stuff. and it is good stuff. so, why not just look at it like that. whether or not he was real (i for one strongly beleive he was), just take it for what its worth. the value you can find in it. and if you can't find any, thats when theres a lengthy discussion truely needed.




actually, there is a large group of people who think Christ should be a warrior who smites the wicked.

Then there's another group that wants him to be peace and love

How is Christ supposed to satisfy all these people when their interests conflict directly?

He does. I can't tell you how, but he does.


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Re: validating beliefs through action [Re: DoctorJ]
    #5695173 - 05/31/06 02:39 PM (17 years, 7 months ago)

You come off as more of a Taoist than a Christian, as do many Christians who don't interpret the Bible literally. If you used the word "Tao" instead of "God" or "Christ," would there be any difference?


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Re: validating beliefs through action [Re: it stars saddam]
    #5695176 - 05/31/06 02:40 PM (17 years, 7 months ago)

no

taoism and christianity are the same religion

Taoism is just a little older

what do you think Christ did during the unrecorded years of his life?

what do you think he went to the East to study?


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Re: validating beliefs through action [Re: DoctorJ]
    #5695191 - 05/31/06 02:45 PM (17 years, 7 months ago)

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what do you think Christ did during the unrecorded years of his life?

what do you think he went to the East to study?




I have no idea.

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If you are simply going to use God in the sense that God is every aspect of reality, then it it a useless term. "Computer", standing on its own, represents the physical state we identify as being a computer. Referring to it as God as well adds no value and serves no purpose. Reality is reality. Creating a new term that represents the same thing but contributes no more purpose is foolish.




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Re: validating beliefs through action [Re: it stars saddam]
    #5695205 - 05/31/06 02:49 PM (17 years, 7 months ago)

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itstarssaddam said:
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DoctorJ said:
what do you think Christ did during the unrecorded years of his life?

what do you think he went to the East to study?




I have no idea.




uhhhh...  Eastern Religion?  :lol:  little dense there, huh?

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If you are simply going to use God in the sense that God is every aspect of reality, then it it a useless term. "Computer", standing on its own, represents the physical state we identify as being a computer. Referring to it as God as well adds no value and serves no purpose. Reality is reality. Creating a new term that represents the same thing but contributes no more purpose is foolish.







that's fuckin narrowminded.  Ever heard of a synonym? 

They edited all the synonyms out in the Newspeak Dictionary.  Why?  Control.


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Re: validating beliefs through action [Re: DoctorJ]
    #5695209 - 05/31/06 02:50 PM (17 years, 7 months ago)

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DoctorJ said:
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itstarssaddam said:
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DoctorJ said:
what do you think Christ did during the unrecorded years of his life?

what do you think he went to the East to study?




I have no idea.




uhhhh...  Eastern Religion?  :lol:  little dense there, huh?




How do you know if it's unrecorded?


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Re: validating beliefs through action [Re: DoctorJ]
    #5695215 - 05/31/06 02:53 PM (17 years, 7 months ago)

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If you are simply going to use God in the sense that God is every aspect of reality, then it it a useless term. "Computer", standing on its own, represents the physical state we identify as being a computer. Referring to it as God as well adds no value and serves no purpose. Reality is reality. Creating a new term that represents the same thing but contributes no more purpose is foolish.




that's fuckin narrowminded. Ever heard of a synonym?

They edited all the synonyms out in the Newspeak Dictionary. Why? Control.




"God" is not a synonym for "everything in existence." A metaphor perhaps, but this terminology is misleading as the majority of people intrepret "God" as the bearded man in the sky described by literalist Christians (who compose the majority, I believe), and "Christ" as if you are referring to the man, Jesus of Nazareth.


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Re: validating beliefs through action [Re: it stars saddam]
    #5695223 - 05/31/06 02:54 PM (17 years, 7 months ago)

it isn't

just because something didn't make it into the bible doesn't mean it was 'unrecorded'

there are other books you know.

the bible is crap. Though the book itself does contain some truth and wisdom, on the whole there are some glaring errors, omissions and misquotations. Its the Warren Report of the Roman Empire. Its the story of Jesus as told by the people who killed him. Its a bunch of crap the Roman government put together so they could control people!

believe me, if Christ came back today, he wouldn't be Christian. At least not exclusively.


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Re: validating beliefs through action [Re: DoctorJ]
    #5695228 - 05/31/06 02:56 PM (17 years, 7 months ago)

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just because something didn't make it into the bible doesn't mean it was 'unrecorded'




You're the one that said it.  :shrug:


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Re: validating beliefs through action [Re: it stars saddam]
    #5695234 - 05/31/06 02:58 PM (17 years, 7 months ago)

sorry, I meant 'unrecorded by the fascist bully-boys of history'
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Re: validating beliefs through action [Re: it stars saddam]
    #5695638 - 05/31/06 04:39 PM (17 years, 7 months ago)

:thumbup:

Its reassuring knowing that I don't have to behave in a manner equivalent to smacking my head into a wall, repeatedly, with a lot of violent force, that manner being repeatedly making points addressing a similar topic (usually one that shouldn't have to be discussed repeatedly, but its amazing how often people defy common sense), as isstarsaddam will always be around to quote me. :lol:

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Re: validating beliefs through action [Re: fireworks_god]
    #5695906 - 05/31/06 05:54 PM (17 years, 7 months ago)

DoctorJ, I may be biased. If I am wrongly so, I apologize. Your pride stands in the way of your greatness.

I for one think you're brilliant -- but you seem to REALLY like yourself and your own thoughts to a point where it takes away from your brilliance and makes you look unnattractive as both a teacher and philosopher. We all have learning to do, and we all have growing to do -- you know this as well as any one else.

In short, you seem a little conceited most of the time (meaning not all of the time).

(That's from my perspective though. I don't speak for anyone but myself. No insult intended. We're here to help one another.)


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Re: validating beliefs through action [Re: fireworks_god]
    #5696166 - 05/31/06 07:09 PM (17 years, 7 months ago)

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:thumbup:

Its reassuring knowing that I don't have to behave in a manner equivalent to smacking my head into a wall, repeatedly, with a lot of violent force, that manner being repeatedly making points addressing a similar topic (usually one that shouldn't have to be discussed repeatedly, but its amazing how often people defy common sense), as isstarsaddam will always be around to quote me. :lol:

:wink:

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Yeah, man. Whenever I read something which I find inspiring on this board I save it and write down the name of the user who originally said it.  Your quote that I referenced on the previous page should be stickied, seriously.  It would eliminate so much confusion.


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Re: validating beliefs through action [Re: it stars saddam]
    #5696189 - 05/31/06 07:17 PM (17 years, 7 months ago)

You are one organized dude. :laugh: You must have 6 or 7 by now. :grin:


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Re: validating beliefs through action [Re: Icelander]
    #5696264 - 05/31/06 07:31 PM (17 years, 7 months ago)

numbers are for computers

free your mind


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Re: validating beliefs through action [Re: DoctorJ]
    #5697975 - 06/01/06 01:34 AM (17 years, 7 months ago)

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the only ones who truly understand christ consciousness are those who are not corrupted by its awesome power. 

you may be christ conscious in your ability to love good universally,

but can you love evil in the same regard? 

you think you could be that big a man, as Christ himself, who asked God to forgive those that murdered him? 

Unless you understand and practice the true nature of christ, you are far from saved.  In fact you are in very dire peril.

actually, there is a large group of people who think Christ should be a warrior who smites the wicked.

Then there's another group that wants him to be peace and love

How is Christ supposed to satisfy all these people when their interests conflict directly?

He does. I can't tell you how, but he does.





hey doc,

Wondering how you make sense of yourself to yourself.

In your what you want thread, you said you would put a cap in the ass of anyone who messed with you. How does that make you forgiving, unconditionally loving of those who commit harmful acts to you "Christ Like" and how do you consider yourself to be able to violently pop caps in asses and be "saved"?

Do you consider your own life not to be in dire peril. I wonder where someone who makes threats of violence to people daily considers themselves to have mastered Christ Consciousness.

Are you sure your need to smite those who you judge to be the wicked is coming from your own Christ Consciousness, or support from the entity Jesus in the discarnate?

Why do you use the word Christ as if it only means Jesus? Jesus was a human man. Christ consciousness is just a vibratory frequency of compassion anyone can resonate with.

I wonder if you beleive that loving evil means loving the evil acts themselves? Compassion is about understanding what drives people into them , loving the Christ within them and forgiving them of their actions. That doesn't mean supporting or condoning the "evil " actions, let alone loving the actions.

I also want to ask why you beleive he cares to be what people want or expect him to be?

I've been communing with him heart to heart on and off for a long time now and though he will customize his wording and use of metaphor and symbolism to better reach understanding with who he is coversing with, he never compromises his integrity of who he is, to be who I want him to be.

If whoever you chat with does that with you, I would question the possibility of a poser trying to manipulate you into smiting others in the name of Jesus.

If I asked Jesus to help me smite someone, (the thought alone is ridiculous to me) he would start with  questions or guided insighting, techniques or both, to help me heal that feeling and intent. He would help me come to a place of understanding, compassion, peace and forgiveness.

And you said you wanted peace while at the same time say you are quick to pop caps in the asses of anyone who gets in your way? How do you expect to live in peace while living in fear of loss and  judging who deserves violent punishment at the same time?

How do you make sense to yourself of all of the conflicting messages you give within the same day?

I know taking multiple views just comes along with the territory of multi dimensional consciousness and there is no doubt you are there.

Reading your stuff is a wild ride you shift around so radically and quickly. I wonder how it is you handle the wild ride you live within and post from day after day. I've never seen anyone go with so much stamina at it. :lol: Is that coke or natural? What's going on doc? Why the Bad Ass bit? Can you handle the power of Christ or has it corrupted you?


My daughter was asking what I was reading and I said I was typing a reply out wanting to better understand someone who posts a lot of conflicting stuff and she asked, "is he a gemini?" :rofl2: Are you? 

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Re: validating beliefs through action [Re: gettinjiggywithit]
    #5698091 - 06/01/06 02:01 AM (17 years, 7 months ago)

so what if someone dies? 

do you really think death is the end? 

death is for your own good, man.  Its the only way you'll truly change and evolve. 

Do you not like action movies?  Kung Fu movies?  Should there be no opposition to light (even if it is a paper target, destined to fall?) 

You can't cut out the dark side!  Its there for a good reason!  How well does your light work, without a dark space to shine in? 

The end of Hell, death, and pain, is the Death of Justice.  And Justice is Immortal :wink:  Justice cannot be killed, ever. 

Nobody likes hell.  Thats why its pretty easy to avoid.  Don't be a dumbass and do a bunch of stupid shit that causes pain in other people's lives! 

If pain is not returned to its source, there is no Justice! 

Don't you realize that there is a downward pointing pentagram in your light body?  Even your philosophy does not rule out the dark side.  As a being of light, you must embrace the darkness, for it is truly the other half which makes you whole. 

I know that you are close to the light my friend.  Perhaps a little too close.  You must explore the other side of the universe.  I've been to hell before, its not that bad.  If you get a good job there, its actually kind of fun :wink:

You think you understand totality just because you know the letter 'A'?  There is a 'Z', too my friend.  And a lot of stuff in between.  Don't you want to stick around to see the whole show, or would you rather go back to being one again? 

get too close to the light,

and you'll fry like a bug in a buglight. 

the darkness is there for your wisdom, friend.  Explore the empty spaces, and start new creations in them.  I know you are capable of this. 

I'm sorry, but pretty much all you just said boils down to one thing: "I'm scared of the dark, J!"  Why?  You have a built in nightlight.  Actually, you have a built in holographic projector, capable of producing whatever you desire on the surface of a blank canvas.  The blank canvas is the DARKNESS! 

make darkness into light, creator.  Not that you are THE creator, but I know you are a creative type :wink:

See the empty darkness?  Its there for you to write on with your magic pen!  Respect its existence!

You look into the sky, and you admire the stars.  But what about the black spaces in between them?  How beautiful would the midnight sky be if it were nothing but a single white light?  Don't you like nebulas, galaxies, and everything that comes from the separation of concepts and the virtue of things being themselves?  For if we all collapsed into one universal mind, you and I would be but brief thoughts in its frontal lobes. 

Why trade the lead role in a cage for a walk on part in the Wall?

don't be so scared to travel!

you have nothing but wisdom to gain by plunging into the darkness

you know damn well they can't take your light away!

so travel far, learn much, and come back to the light when you're ready!


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    #5698458 - 06/01/06 04:40 AM (17 years, 7 months ago)

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so what if someone dies?




I can communicate with spirit so it doesn't effect me when loved ones pass on in a "loss sense".

Ask that question to the people who loved those that died and are experiencing tremendous amounts of loss and grief, pain and guilt. Its not cool to see others go through it, especially kids who loose their parents at a young age a

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do you really think death is the end?




Its the end of the physical life, not that of the soul or spirit. 

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death is for your own good, man.  Its the only way you'll truly change and evolve.




I've changed and evolved my understanding so much while I have been alive and consciously aware incarnate and discarnate. Life here there and everywhere has been for my own good. The only death that is ever for my own good is the death of any ideas or beliefs that do not support my own good general well being or that of others.

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Do you not like action movies?  Kung Fu movies?  Should there be no opposition to light (even if it is a paper target, destined to fall?)




I get waaaaaaaaaaaay more excited watching the ability to direct and channel power and energy into constructive actions and upliftments. Thats a lot more challenging and requires greater skill and strength then taking advantages of weaknesses where you find them.  Any half wit can do that.

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You can't cut out the dark side!  Its there for a good reason!  How well does your light work, without a dark space to shine in?




You don't need a light when the space you are in is already lit. I must be wording this wrong. Where are the words to illustrate this. In the dark you NEED a light. In the dark we have many NEEDS. In the light, we have no need for light. We have NO NEEDS. It's all clearly there for the making. 

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The end of Hell, death, and pain, is the Death of Justice.  And Justice is Immortal :wink:  Justice cannot be killed, ever.




And how is this belief of yours serving you?

Justice is an illusion, it never was Needed either and you would know that if you came out of the darkness that statement came from. 

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Nobody likes hell.  Thats why its pretty easy to avoid.  Don't be a dumbass and do a bunch of stupid shit that causes pain in other people's lives!




Some people LOVE raising hell. What are you talking about? And there are those in it, and want out, and can't find the way and you say it is easy for anyone to avoid?  Tell that to the millions who are suffering and struggling in life. Only easy to avoid once your out of it and moving in new directions of ease and grace.

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If pain is not returned to its source, there is no Justice!




You support vengeance and equate yourself with being saved and having mastered Christ Consciousness? :crazy:
Dude, listen to yourself. last week, you told Tren that his comment about particles was a dangerous belief. You said there was only ONE WAVE.

Now you are splitting things not only back into dualities, but are throwing them out of balance and seeing a need for justification.

Which is it?

You were closer with the ONE wave as the macro and he just gave the micro versions of the macro. The Energy that is, is always in balance with itself because their is nothing else. 

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Don't you realize that there is a downward pointing pentagram in your light body?  Even your philosophy does not rule out the dark side.  As a being of light, you must embrace the darkness, for it is truly the other half which makes you whole.




No its not the true light body. I've posted on that slicing and dicing tetrahedron form running oppositions against each other that belongs in the junk yard. I dismantled mine years ago and replaced it with the vortex sphere. See my sig dude! :thumbup: :cool:

The tetrahedron is not the true mer ka bah. You will never get past the astral plane with it. Our light bodies look like my sig and the physics run very differently. The incoming and outgoing vortexes top to bottom run in the same direction and yet standing at either end you would get both clockwise and counter clockwise spins for push and pull forces required for movement. No need for oppositions running against each other that slice and dice the energy body to shreds when it goes off balance and wobbles.

My philosophy knows that the darkness is just where light has been blocked by density. It knows it as a not thing. I covered that with you in MR&P. And you said you fill people with darkness? All you can do is TRY to block light from shining to put something in the dark.

I do not believe I am half dark and half light. To be complete is to be FULL FILLED with Love and light. To be half dark is to be half empty and half of the fully realized self.

Believing that you are half dark (half empty) will always have you feeling lonely, incomplete, unfulfilled and looking to have the other half fulfilled with love. I do not support that belief nor do I believe it in nor will I ever, because it makes no sense to believe yourself unfulfilled and empty.

Besides, you can not embrace a shadow.  It has no substance what so ever. Go out tomorrow in the sun and do all you can to find the substance to embrace of your cast shadow. Its just where light has been blocked by dense matter. Same with the spirit self, dense thoughts and emotions that create the shadow self.

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I know that you are close to the light my friend.  Perhaps a little too close.  You must explore the other side of the universe.  I've been to hell before, its not that bad.  If you get a good job there, its actually kind of fun :wink:




I already have experienced the full fall and it sucks. It only seems fun when you are in separatists ego. When you move back into compassion, it's not cool anymore.

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You think you understand totality just because you know the letter 'A'?  There is a 'Z', too my friend.  And a lot of stuff in between.  Don't you want to stick around to see the whole show, or would you rather go back to being one again?




Woaahhhhhhhh, I am not one of those people who wants to merge back into a glob of love goo and loose their sovereignty and  individuated consciousness.  I am looking forward to eons and eons of realizing the rest of the alphabet and then some. The only thing I am getting ready to kiss goodbye to for good, is duality perception.

get too close to the light,

and you'll fry like a bug in a buglight.[/quote 

You have the flames of hell confused with the violet flame of the sacred heart and the warmth of loves embrace. It doesn't burn or hurt. It relaxes, soothes, comforts and purifies. MMMMM I bath in it regularly. :wink:

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the darkness is there for your wisdom, friend.  Explore the empty spaces, and start new creations in them.  I know you are capable of this.




Now this I can relate to because you finally called it empty spaces. Indeed, I live to fill them with light. Love it love it love it.  I even create new empty space to be filled with new things and work very much with voids.  I use to post about that related to manifesting.

For those who don't understand how it all works, the spaces kept(perceptually empty) of love and light are just dark, cold, scary and lonely. Once you get fulfilled, you start expanded by penning up new spaces and fulfilling those. Blah blah blah, I don;t see it as being a means to achieve wisdom though. To me, its just about realizing more of our creative power and the possibilities and potentials to be experienced.

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I'm sorry, but pretty much all you just said boils down to one thing: "I'm scared of the dark, J!"  Why?  You have a built in night light.  Actually, you have a built in holographic projector, capable of producing whatever you desire on the surface of a blank canvas.  The blank canvas is the DARKNESS!




I've already posted all of that in the past here J. I've talked about being your own source of light and our ability to illuminate anything from within. I can see in the dark dude. It doesn't frighten me a bit.  It is just a blank canvas to me. What I said was, I still have a ways to build up my nervous system and energy body matrix to handle MORE LOVE and LIGHT power. Every time I am ready to take on more of that, it does overwhelm me, sometimes. The feeling of being overwhelmed by anything good or bad can be scary "if" you start separating yourself from being the source of it. Then, it becomes down right intimidating its so powerful.

You missed an awesome article I once shared on a speech by Nelson Mandela. He talked about how it is not our darkness that frightens us. It is our light. He talked about how afraid people are to stand in it and let it shine. So true.

Non the less, it's been best for me to open up to more in bits at a time, so I can get comfortable with managing it and staying responsible with my use of it.

The darkness is nothing to be afraid of. It has ZERO power. Are you afraid of your shadow or any one elses? Of course not. Why? They are harmless.


Dr J said: See the empty darkness?  Its there for you to write on with your magic pen!  Respect its existence!


I see it differently then you do. We create them, they are not just "there". We have the power to open up them and to fill them up. There is nothing to it to be given respect. What deserves respect or not is what the artists decide to fill the empty spaces they create with.



Night skies are pretty. The white light has colors in it who's beauty blows away anything else I have ever seen. Like I said, I have no desire to collapse into any one One Mind. I tap into it though. :wink:

Where some see white and black in conflict, I prefer to see colors of the rainbow, light, in complimentary contrasts. :smile:

Dr. J said: Why trade the lead role in a cage for a walk on part in the Wall? don't be so scared to travel!

Ego loves the lead roles. As a kid, I loved center stage. As I mature, I am preferring supportive roles, behind the scenes rolls and even those as stage designer, roles with no visibility at all.

I'm digging remembering who to go stealth in my travels these days.

Your funny, advising me to travel. I'm hardly ever in fully in my body. :lol:  The regulars here know I am a first class space cadet. It's a rare moment to catch my ship grounded.


Dr. J said:you have nothing but wisdom to gain by plunging into the darkness

you know damn well they can't take your light away
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Plunge into forgetfulness again? NO WAY. I am preferring the remembering experience. Perhaps we are saying the same thing, only you see empty spaces that already exists. I experience all potentials already in existence awaiting to be fulfilled. When I say i create a void, the just means, I open up more space in my mind and heart to accept more of what already is.

Dr J said:so travel far, learn much, and come back to the light when you're ready!

We are the light. There is no where to go without it, nothing to be or become without it, and nothing knew to be seen , know, realized, or experienced without it. In other words, never leave home again without it or you'll end up stuck in dark, cold, lonely, ditch.

So are you a Gemini or what?

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    #5698478 - 06/01/06 04:49 AM (17 years, 7 months ago)

I just wanted to add some to offer clarity about how I see the voids. The sort of empty spaces that suck, that we create, are when we experience loss of love that once gilled a space in our heart or loss of a dream that once filled a space in our mind. If those voids are left empty,"dark" it sucks. They need to be refilled ASAP, to not suck. Let renewal love and light inspiration from source flow in to fullfill it. :thumbup:

Unfortunately, most people clamp it down to close it in and just end up further in the whole of lack, when the universe is so abundant in love and light.

Its about opening up new spaces in mind and heart for new potentials already existsing in light form, to fullfill them in experiential realized form.

I expalined how I used voids for manifesting more to realize and experience while maintianing what I already have going on.
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    #5698493 - 06/01/06 04:55 AM (17 years, 7 months ago)

well, you know I must respect my father and his associate's way as well as yours and my own. 

don't forget to respect your elders

me, I have a love/hate relationship with mine. 

much the same way with my children

perhaps you and I can travel together sometime

but no funny stuff :wink:  You know which way I swing :wink:

by the way, have you read 'How to be Perfect in 3 days' yet?

its a really good book. 

oh yeah, and I'm a Pisces

you have me confused with some other bitch if you think I'm a gemini :wink:


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    #5698506 - 06/01/06 05:03 AM (17 years, 7 months ago)

oh yes, and the torus is a beautiful shape,

but there are many others

do you not appreciate variety? 

"the spice extends life.  The spice expands consciousness.  The spice is vital to space travel.  Traveling, without moving!"

what is a universe without disorder and chaos? 

a pretty boring place if you ask me. 

All those hydrogen and helium atoms, lined up in neat little rows and columns.  seems like such a waste to me.  Turning what could be a work of art into a spreadsheet. 

Or erasing the mona lisa to have only a blank page.

but hey, to each his own, I suppose. 

Though you are a great King,

even the lowliest anarchist could teach you a lesson :wink:


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    #5698510 - 06/01/06 05:07 AM (17 years, 7 months ago)

one more thing:

I always leave half my meal on the table

I do not desire to be completely filled,

for there is value in possesing some emptiness.

room to grow!

always room for improvement!

ever-expanding, ever lasting!

you ever seen 'The Goonies"?

Leave some for one-eyed willie!

you know me, always the workaholic.

work is my vacation, vacation is my work

zen is a difficult art to understand

sorry.

"What else should I be? All Apologies."

OK, I'll shut up now.


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    #5698534 - 06/01/06 05:30 AM (17 years, 7 months ago)

OK, to make a liar out of myself:

you have little respect for Justice

you have little respect for vengeance

but I wonder,

how many truly evil people have you encountered?

How many bitter injustices have you suffered?

If I hadn't suffered so much dishonesty, treachery, theivery, and violence,

then I would see no need for justice

but unfortunately, I have seen all of these things

so I do see a need for Justice

*sigh*

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    #5699582 - 06/01/06 12:58 PM (17 years, 7 months ago)

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oh yes, and the torus is a beautiful shape,

but there are many others

do you not appreciate variety?

"the spice extends life. The spice expands consciousness. The spice is vital to space travel. Traveling, without moving!"

what is a universe without disorder and chaos?

a pretty boring place if you ask me.




Does that mean you are a taurus? Gemini is the sign of the twins and most are like 12 different people in one. That's why my daughter thought you might be.

I love diversity, growth and change and I rarely feel bored with life.( To the contrary, so much to see and do. Curiosities abound around me to be explored understood and discovered.

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All those hydrogen and helium atoms, lined up in neat little rows and columns. seems like such a waste to me. Turning what could be a work of art into a spreadsheet.




What gave you that idea of how I feel about things across the board, up, down, out, around, in, over and under? I like inanimate objects in order and animate objects enjoying the dance to the beats of their own drummers. I enjoy harmonic blends like a bass beat that stays consistent and a horn and bongo that is going all over the place at the same time.



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Though you are a great King,

even the lowliest anarchist could teach you a lesson




I'm a servant and always learning from everything. Even with the darkness you love and appreciate. I can learn from that. What I learn from it is where I don't want to be, how not to get into it and how to get out of it.

Haven't you also noticed that I have made you a curious subject to study? Do you pay attention, notice or listen to anything but yourself? How often do you ever clear "empty" and  quiet your frenetic chaotic mind and just observe and listen? I hope you get your home and take up gardening some day. Gardening is a great teacher too.
 

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you have little respect for Justice

you have little respect for vengeance




I understand peoples needs to wan to justify imbalances in the external world. I understand peoples need to seek vengeance and justification.

I also understand that two wrongs do not make a right. It just puts two people in the shitz instead of one. The ideal for me is to help pull everyone out of the shitz of life, including myself.

I look at someone like a Jeffrey Dahmer and want to know, what caused his pain for him to have it to such a depth and wealth of it,  to want to inflict on others in such a way, for some temporary relief from it. I learned about his childhood. I wonder where was his justification for being brought into a world so unloved and unnurtured. Suffering is suffering and I would like to see it end for human kind. I don't want to be the cause of any more if I can help it.

Anyway, reconciliation, justification, rebalancing, and restoring peace and harmony is becoming more of INTERNAL event for me.

If someone slaps me and I slap them back, I will not feel good about myself for doing that. If someone slaps me, and I find a way to understand, forgive, and look at where I fell off kilter to not even see it coming, and rebalance myself out to draw more gentility and kindness to myself , I will feel better about things.

If we never work, to rise above things and be the bigger heart and mind in the matters of life, we doom ourselves to small prisons built in the muck.

Mud wrestling makes no sense to me, nor does self imprisonment.

I prefer to justify, reconcile and restore balance and harmony from within, when life wrongs me. When I am reconciled and balanced, wrongs don't exists.

I use to be a vengeful type in my younger years. There was this girl I worked with who keyed my beautiful new alpha romeo. Wrote Fuck You on the trunk. After I got it repainted, she keyed a scratch in it again. I ratted her out to police that she was working in a bar underage and she got fired. It was getting freaking expensive to keep having my car redone.

HOWEVER, I was my big judgmental careless mouth at the time brought her actions to me. I made an ignorant crack about adopted kids getting screwed by their own flesh and blood, never knowing, she gave a child up for adoption in her teens.

My words must have cut her deep. Its a no wonder she took a sharp instrument to my car. Then I got her fired to boot. Dad had to leave the state, a great life and move back in with her dad.

Did she deserve my comment or my retaliation? I don't think so now.

Did I deserve to have my car keyed twice for saying something like that. No, she could've equally written me off as an ignorant ass and found a way to forgive me.

The moral of this story and life is, Someone has to be the first to lay their weapons down or we will never know peace. Now, in life I want it start with me and rise to the occasion best I can and continue getting better at it.

I would've handled that situation so much differently today. I would've apologized to her and let it go.  I work to watch my words and actions better too.

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how many truly evil people have you encountered?




Come off that one like no one here but you understands or has seen what you have seen doc.  You insult everyone here when you act like the only person who has faced the abyss.

I got news for you, when I read that someone could easily pop a cap in another's ass, and take a human life out of vengeance, I am encountering evil energy.

Evil to me is whatever runs in opposition to life evil is live spelled backwards.

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How many bitter injustices have you suffered?




Where do I freaking begin? I won't help myself or anyone else by holding unto to childish resentment for any of it. What did I do to deserve getting beat bloody with a belt for giggling when I was suppose to be falling asleep? We use to plot ways to kill our dad in his sleep when we were kids. Fortunately we never acted on it and grew the fuck up.

When we stopped being so self absorbed, we came to learn, his dad did the same to him, and his his. We all came to understand, forgive and break the chain of inflicting violence, terror and suffering on to our own. Now we know, he probably want to kill his own dad too, and instead, took that anger out on us. Now we understand, his abusive of us, was an immature way for him to justify what happened to him as a child. It's how he made it right in his own mind that is still stuck there.

Justification for us kids was to heal ourselves and stop it from going any further. Never having raised a hand or voice to our own kids is how we justified things and made them right again.


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If I hadn't suffered so much dishonesty, treachery, thievery, and violence,

then I would see no need for justice




Grow up doc. Justify things by being the change you wish to see. That is the best vengeance. They win when you just perpetuate the hate and violence and you loose.


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but unfortunately, I have seen all of these things




ALL of us here have. Last time I checked, we were all typing from planet earth.


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so I do see a need for Justice



*sigh*

I see someone who is in need of some healing and mending up all of the inner shreds and conflict doc.

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the Illuminati upbringing was not an easy one.


I know what happens to many of the kids doc. Not sure to what extent you were messed with but I know they like to trauma shock kids into split mindedness and submission for easy mind control.

To begin healing, you need to start talking about it and let people know. If you don't it will eat you up alive. 

That is your sweet vengeance. OUT THEM. Pull them out form the dark and make them stand naked in the light of day. Restore justice by not repeating their ways. Grow up and out of it. For every person who stops sending them hate and fear and anger energy, their power weakens.

If you quit feeding the phantoms and their shadows sides, they will wither away.

They don't have spit for their own power source because they all cut themselves off from the love of source. They use ours against us to keep us down. Quit giving your power away to them through hate and anger and respect. There is this twisted side of you that seems to admire their cunning, which is rather unimpressive compared to what you forgot about yourself. 

I am going to send the rest of what I have to say to you on this to your PM box.


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    #5700223 - 06/01/06 03:57 PM (17 years, 7 months ago)

I understand what you're saying, here. 

I have been the change I want to see.  Guess what?  No one cares. 

I get hated on daily for practicing my (completely non-violent) beliefs. 

If someone keying your car is what you call evil, then I ain't impressed. 

The love of my life basically destroyed herself in some twisted attempt to fuck with my head.  She went around sleeping with most of my friends and family just to torture me, laughing about it the whole time.  This is a girl I would have married, and still would take bullets for.  I really love her that much.  But now she's disfigured and has STDs and shit, completely twisted wreck of a person.  So sad :nonono:

My family is into some crooked, twisted shit involving ungodly amounts of money and power.  we're talkin big oil and insurance companies and the GOP.  Skull and Bones shit.  Me, I'm the odd man out.  the spiritual one in the family, you might say :wink:

I was in line to inherit shitloads of cash that was misappropriated by the Feds instead.  Oh well, at least they owe me a few favors now.  A few million favors, actually.  I literally have a liscense to kill, and I haven't hurt a fucking fly.  Power doesn't usually corrupt me, but its a serious test of will not to enact Justice on the people who have ruined what could have been a fairly pleasant life. 

Luckily, I'm starting to get out of the woods on this shit, starting to feel good abut myself again.  It was a difficult recovery, but opiates and rum helped a lot :wink:

Anyway, I'm going to a Nine Inch Nails concert this weekend (my favorite band!), so maybe I'll get lucky and meet the girl of my dreams there.  :lol:  Probably not, but at least I can hope :smile:

Thanks for your words of inspiration :thumbup:

PS:  I don't think its wrong to kill someone in defense of one's own life.  If people don't want to be killed, they shouldn't try to kill me, is all I'm sayin.  I'm not going to go out and get vigilante justice over something stupid like a stolen car stereo or something.


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    #5700736 - 06/01/06 06:06 PM (17 years, 7 months ago)

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I have been the change I want to see.  Guess what?  No one cares. 

I get hated on daily for practicing my (completely non-violent) beliefs. 




You've been shown a lot of love and support here for your non violent, words of wisdom and insights. Ignore the bad stuff people throw at you and pay attention to hte good stuff. It's out there. It may seem more worthy to you to pay attention to when you value the love and light more then the fear and dark.

Besides, being the change you wish to see is not about doing it to impress others or to get their attention. Being the change you wish to see is about putting you in the life you wish to be living in.

If other people want to walk around hating, even hating on you, so what. If you walk around loving, you are in the energy of love and you're there. Others who are there, will connect with you if you can consistently hold it. When you start with the , I can fill you with darkness, put a gun to your balls, blah blah stuff, you'll push them away. Only a sicko psycho chick, drawn to power players would want to cozy up to that aspect, which, I find hard to beleive is the real you anyway. It's just a costume you can ditch. Its a no wonder all you have known are mentally il, women who use and abuse men.

That bad ass guy talk will draw that type.

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If someone keying your car is what you call evil, then I ain't impressed.


 

That story wasn't about facing evil. That one was about the absolute stupidity of vengeance. That was 17 years ago. Like I said, now, I would of apologized for my insensitive remark and let the car keying go. Getting her fired didn't resolve anything and just made things worse for her, when I started it with my loose comment.

Just saying that there was a time, I did believe it was the thing to do. It made me feel empowered. :tongue: Now, I just see how "weak" is was of me to not be able to see myself as the cause, understand her reaction and just forgive it and let go of it.

Now, I have found that the most powerful place to be is in forgiveness, in love and in humble being.

You're story is a rough one. When family doesn;t have your back, it sucks. Thats when its time, to go out and find your spiritual family. I'm glad to hear you are pulling yourself out of the woods, and time and new activities, people and environments will help to heal. Hindsight alone usually gives a fresh perspective on things making them easier to understand and manage later on up the road.

Open up to the new and fulfill yourself with newer brighter cleaner energy.

Your life can still be pleasant. Wealth, and partners with messed up heads ruin it for many. There is no guarantee things would've turned up Roses, with the girl or the money. For all you know, either may have destroyed you. Today is a new day with a fresh clean break to begin anew and make each moment as pleasant as you can for yourself.

It doesn't take much, a warm smile, a pause to watch the squirrels at play, a nice song. Moment by moment, take it and make it and give it to yourself and others.

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Thanks for your words of inspiration :thumbup:



You're welcome.

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PS:  I don't think its wrong to kill someone in defense of one's own life.  If people don't want to be killed, they shouldn't try to kill me, is all I'm sayin.  I'm not going to go out and get vigilante justice over something stupid like a stolen car stereo or something.




I could see myself killing in self defence as a LAST resort. If you keep your spidey senses sharp, you will be able to evade danger long before it meets you or can catch you snoozing. Consider, how you said, you like living center stage. Drawing attention to yourself when you think people are out to get you probably isn't key. Learn to adopt a low profile mode and you will notice, people will leave you be.

Sounds to me like you need to move out of the area you are in. I caught up into a lot of materialistic superficial Bullshit when I lived in the Chicago burns. Though I started realizing how fucked up it was, it was hard to change because people wanted to hold you to the old you they knew.

Getting out was the best move I ever made.

Hit the islands to find your non materialistic down to earth girl and a more pleasant pace in life. My time In St. Thomas U.S.V.I. and Kauai Hi., was just what my doctor ordered for me. It all turned around from there.

There are  a lot of good people out there doc. Move to a new vibe and give people a chance. Be careful not to push them away with the tough talk. maybe you needed that to survive in your current environment. Change your environment and start fresh.

You have a lot of Charisma and a beautiful heart mind and soul when it comes through. Let people see more of that part of you and they'll start showing you more of that part of them. The world is one giant mirror after all.

No need for anyone to let there yesterdays ruin their tomorrows. Let them go. Its baggage you don;t need to be carrying around. It sounds like its just weighing heavy on you. That's why you are tired and want to leave this place. Lighten your load and let it all go into forgiveness of what just is and was.

A cool and effective exercise for healing the past that effects us in the now is to go into visualization mode and replay the worst of it that still weighs heavy on you to have worked out with the ends all healed up and mended in good will and peace for all. It's amazing how things immediately begin to change and take new shape after you do that.

The subconscious memory doesn't know the difference between the real and imagined. If you reprogram it with really good stuff, when on auto pilot, it will run nicer program patterns for you to experience.  :sun:

You did nothing you need to be punishing yourself for. All has been forgiven of us.  :heart: Screw your dads inheritance. You have a Divine inheritance to accept and spend for all the days of your existence and no one can ever take that away from you. Draw from Source.

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    #5700829 - 06/01/06 06:33 PM (17 years, 7 months ago)

something else i'm noticing you've seem to be forgetting DR. J.

there is ONE God.

the devil that stalks you, the evil that torments you
it's a sort of test

focusing in on how satan destroys love isn't the way to fight against him.
hold fast to that which is good.

you say people hate you and nobody cares.
but i care.
right now i'm seeing you as the one who doesn't care.
not enough to answer my pm's anyways, lol


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    #5701023 - 06/01/06 07:29 PM (17 years, 7 months ago)

good advice, from both of you. 


nothing I didn't already know, but a good reminder

You guys and I are on the same page, and its nice to know there are people out there who think like me.  It gives me hope for this planet after all. 


And let me just tell you this:  My true inheritance cannot be taken away, for it is immaterial.  Lets see them try to steal a ghost :wink:

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oh man, this has really cheered me up.  You guys rock

PS:  Yes, I have used the technique of replaying horrible painful memories in my mind to accept them; this works particularly well with opiates, though I'm sure when I get stronger I won't need the drugs.


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    #5701364 - 06/01/06 08:40 PM (17 years, 7 months ago)

:smile: You put a big smile on my face! :heart:

Of course you know that stuff. When we get a little down in the dumps and the vibe drops, its easy to start forgetting again. Thankfully, there are always those who come along to remind us again. I love it when people put up reminder posts.

The technique I mentioned is a little different from just replaying events to come to terms with it, though it helps to even do just that. What you do is "rewrite it" where everyone acts in good will and all leaves off well. THAT is what changes the form structures your auto pilot programming is running on.  It also seems to shift the timeline you resonate with to one where that "visualized probability" actually happened and then you take off from there with a more sound foundation behind you in your soul matrix memory banks.

What is that book you reccomended about? I havn't read it. I was about to look up books on Akido philosophies to order.(reminder refreshers :wink: )Maybe I will check that one out too.


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    #5701376 - 06/01/06 08:42 PM (17 years, 7 months ago)

Well, I don't truly get control of Time for a few more years :wink:

and 'How to Be Perfect in 3 Days' is a children's book.  Good message, though.  You should read it.


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    #5702188 - 06/01/06 11:56 PM (17 years, 7 months ago)

Three days? :jawdrop:

How do they even define, "perfect"? Thats a relative thing. What would the perfect human be like and would it be perfect to everyones standards.

Ever know how what is "perfect" to you keeps changing over time. Or, how when you get something just right, soon, you get new ideas for improving it.:lol: There's no end to the creative arts of tweaking is there?

You don't have to be able to control time itself to be able to shift probability flows for yourself or start new offshoots.

So many ways to do it.

Haven't you ever had that feeling where, this has happened and I know where this is going? Better yet, like in the matrix, when trinity told Neo not to go down the alley because he got killed in that time line, so he made a new choice which took him into a new probability.

Tweaking!!!!!!!!

You can do it when you get that feeling of, "Hold up. I know or can see where this is going." That's your intuitive guide telling you not to take that route, been there done that, no need to repeat it. Those are the moments we get to make a wiser choice. In the process we can tweak out for ourselves even higher ideals to experience.

The thing is with the "been there done that repeats", the people and the scenes may be different, so people think they are doing something new, but the pattern of how things go down is the same. Thats what one wants to watch for and nip in the bud if the pattern sucks or is getting tiring.

It's more about changing the patterns the fabric of reality will cut out for you to wear(live in) until you choose a new pattern and things change up a lot again.

Its wild when you really get it rolling. Life starts to feel like you are living many life times in one and everything speeds up perceptually yet things get easier with each new choice that shifts you up a vibratory notch.

It becomes an intuitive challenge that gets fun to never repeat the same pattern that leads to something undesirable or medicocre twice, let alone tens or hundreds of times like you see people in habitual, predictable patterns do, that keep crying the same whoa is me tune. Things just keep getting lighter and lighter.

If you feel like things start to get heavier and heavier, that's a sign you are falling back into old patterns. I watch for that too.

It takes discipline and courage though to break from making the same old choices in old patterns. I pulled off a biggy last week. Almost went to make the same "want more now pay in hidden ways later" mistake with a MAJOR purchase. A broker stalled on a get back call, and during that time, I was getting that "feeling". I started seeing potential "hardship" I could've easily fallen back into that I recently just got out of. I made a new choice to put it off until a better time, and now feel great about making that change and things up ahead look even sweeter then they did had I gone for it when I thought it was a good idea.

One thing I noticed that helps is to give your guide regular direction on where you want to go and be. It'll take you anywhere, as it has the birds eye view on what potentials lie up ahead. If you let it know, not specifics, but generals of the place you want to be in.

Just sharing things I am discovering to work. maybe anyone reading can play around with it and get it to work for them and they'll be loving life like never before.

I like how SEAL coined time as just being the space between things.

Thats a fun one to play with.:yesnod:

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    #5702230 - 06/02/06 12:07 AM (17 years, 7 months ago)

read the book

kthnxbye


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