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OfflineMixomatosis
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The value of holding "false" beliefs
    #3311316 - 11/02/04 10:10 PM (12 years, 1 month ago)

Meet Randy. Somewhere deep in the Australian outback, Randy's hungry so he poaches Dwayne's wallaby. Later that day, Dwayne finds Randy down by the billabong with a wallaby (and maybe some shrimp) on the barbie. Dwayne's pissed. If he were like us, he'd probably unleash a horde of dingos on his enemy, but he's not.. he's an aboriginal sorcerer. So, he gets some kind of special lizard bone and points it at Randy. Randy immediately becomes ill and dies a couple days later.

This post isn't about debating whether the above occurs or not. I haven't looked into it thoroughly but I've read about it in a book by a reputable anthropologist. I mean, I haven't personally checked up on him and his reputation, but he came from Harvard and gets published in magazines like National Geographic. Sure I haven't really looked into either of those... nevermind.

What I was saying is that this author used the practice of killing your enemies by pointing a bone at them as an example of being a victim of extremely strong cultural beliefs. You've had it pounded into your head for so long that a sorcerer can kill you by pointing a bone at you that when it happens, you immediately become desperately unhealthy and, well, mopey, and then you die. What an untapped potential we have! The problem is that if Dwayne pointed the bone at someone who didn't share his beliefs, that person would walk over and kick his ass, crocodile-hunter style. It's the victim who kills himself.

So with this example demonstrating the power our minds can have over these kinds of things, we could speculate endlessly on our untapped potential as self-healers and athletes. The problem is, to tap into these benefits, you gotta fill your head with bullshit!

Or so it would seem..


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Re: The value of holding "false" beliefs [Re: Mixomatosis]
    #3311518 - 11/02/04 10:56 PM (12 years, 1 month ago)

I find it hard to believe that strong beliefs would actually biologically kill a person.

If this event actually happened, maybe the sorcery was 'real', and being skeptical - this reasoning was given.

I realize beliefs can shape what you experience, in that people often block out aspects of their perceptions that don't coincide with their beliefs - as to not make them 'uneasy', or maybe for a more egoistical reason. But biological death seems a bit far :/


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Re: The value of holding "false" beliefs [Re: deff]
    #3311539 - 11/02/04 10:58 PM (12 years, 1 month ago)

To add to that, if what you imply is true, and that "false beliefs" can make an event a reality, then wouldn't it be a 'real' belief afterall? Does the fact that when the belief was created the event was false change the fact that it is now 'true'? :laugh:


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Re: The value of holding "false" beliefs [Re: deff]
    #3311565 - 11/02/04 11:03 PM (12 years, 1 month ago)

or? it could be that alle 'real' beliefs really are false beliefs?


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Re: The value of holding "false" beliefs [Re: Gomp]
    #3311606 - 11/02/04 11:11 PM (12 years, 1 month ago)

Or were false beliefs.

Or it could be said that the belief of false beliefs is a real belief.

Or it could be that beliefs are the results of specification neuron configurations within this physical dimension, also encompassing the events the beliefs are about. Contradictions from these two arise within one's perception when the belief was created "falsely" from experience. Although this attribute of false can only be applied when one is sure the one with the "false" beliefs is less informed on the event than he is, and that his position is asserted as more 'real' - this too as a specific arrangement of neurons in this universe. False and real are both fragments of this fragmented experience and so on...

Or that I have a pie fetish.

Who knows :laugh:


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Re: The value of holding "false" beliefs [Re: Mixomatosis]
    #3311616 - 11/02/04 11:12 PM (12 years, 1 month ago)

I dont believe you.


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