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Re: Trump tells BLM's Protester to get the hell out [Re: Falcon91Wolvrn03]
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Falcon91Wolvrn03 said:
What does he care - our military's disproportionally black,



Your point is what?

If we had a draft you might have one but we do not. Everyone in the military is there because they chose to be.

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Re: Trump tells BLM's Protester to get the hell out [Re: hostileuniverse]
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hostileuniverse said:
What do you think regulations are? When you control EVERY aspect of something, you run it. The govt doesn't run GM either, but they didn't just hand them a bunch of money and let them do with it as they please



The government focuses on regulating the HEALTH CARE INSURANCE markets ... not health care.  Big difference. 

How the Insurance companies apply pressure to the doctors and hospitals is a whole other issue.  Insurance companies play a much bigger role in regulating and managing health care than the government.

And that, IMHO, is the bigger component of the problem.


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Re: Trump tells BLM's Protester to get the hell out [Re: KauaiOrca]
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KauaiOrca said:
hostileuniverse said:
What do you think regulations are? When you control EVERY aspect of something, you run it. The govt doesn't run GM either, but they didn't just hand them a bunch of money and let them do with it as they please



The government focuses on regulating the HEALTH CARE INSURANCE markets ... not health care.  Big difference.



If that was true, you would have a point, but it's not, the idea that doctors and hospitals aren't regulated is laughable

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How the Insurance companies apply pressure to the doctors and hospitals is a whole other issue.  Insurance companies play a much bigger role in regulating and managing health care than the government.




And how do they pressure them? Is it similar to lobbying?


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Re: Trump tells BLM's Protester to get the hell out [Re: hostileuniverse]
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hostileuniverse said:
And how do they pressure them? Is it similar to lobbying?



Truly, if you don't understand how health insurance companies manage/regulate doctors and hospitals, you shouldn't be posting on this topic.


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Re: Trump tells BLM's Protester to get the hell out [Re: hostileuniverse]
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hostileuniverse said:
I can't wait until our healthcare is based on saving money rather than saving lives

http://www.statnews.com/pharmalot/2015/11/17/pharmalot-agency-rejects-breast-cancer-drug/



hostileuniverse said:
I can't wait until our healthcare is based on saving money rather than saving lives

http://www.statnews.com/pharmalot/2015/11/17/pharmalot-agency-rejects-breast-cancer-drug/



Lolz! You think our healthcare system is based on saving lives! Cute :wink:


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Re: Trump tells BLM's Protester to get the hell out [Re: gregorio]
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gregorio said:
Everyone in the military is there because they chose to be.




Well, that may be only because it gives the best benefits in terms of pay and going to college and getting a job afterwards.. for black people who are more likely to be from low incomes - it is one of the best routes. Not because they agree with all these wars.

Falcon was saying what would Trump care if more wars were started? the military is disproportionately black and Trump doesnt seem to care about black rights or agree that "black lives matter" too, OR does he really seem to think much before he speaks or acts so war is no biggy to him, he would just bomb shit and "go in there and take the oil" regardless of the loss of American life - black or white or purple.

Trump, like others on this thread, think BLM are just a bunch of cry babies.


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Re: Trump tells BLM's Protester to get the hell out [Re: Tipote]
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Tipote said:
gregorio said:
Everyone in the military is there because they chose to be.




Well, that may be only because it gives the best benefits in terms of pay and going to college and getting a job afterwards.. for black people who are more likely to be from low incomes - it is one of the best routes. Not because they agree with all these wars.

Falcon was saying what would Trump care if more wars were started? the military is disproportionately black and Trump doesnt seem to care about black rights or agree that "black lives matter" too, OR does he really seem to think much before he speaks or acts so war is no biggy to him, he would just bomb shit and "go in there and take the oil" regardless of the loss of American life - black or white or purple.

Trump, like others on this thread, think BLM are just a bunch of cry babies.



The leadership that sent the boys into Korea, Vietnam, Iraq, and Afghanistan never gave a shit whether people on the front lines were white or black, so enough of this poor black people nonsense.

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Re: Trump tells BLM's Protester to get the hell out [Re: qman]
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qman said:
The leadership that sent the boys into Korea, Vietnam, Iraq, and Afghanistan never gave a shit whether people on the front lines were white or black, so enough of this poor black people nonsense.




youre right, i said - they are sent in
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regardless of the loss of American life - black or white or purple.



the point still stands that black people are disproportionately in the military.


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Re: Trump tells BLM's Protester to get the hell out [Re: Tipote]
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cause they chose to be


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Re: Trump tells BLM's Protester to get the hell out [Re: KauaiOrca]
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KauaiOrca said:
Tipote said:
armaggedon is almost 100% certain if trump won. who do you think on the republican side is likely to get it if not trump??





Campaigns generate  a lot of fire.  After you're sworn in,  you get a visit from the grown ups in the room that give you the full briefing on how global government works.  Then they fall in line.  Same will happen with Trump.  Elected politicians have power and unelected global government has more.

Trump / Rubio / Cruz / Fiorina are the only 4 I think that have a shot at this point.

I think Hillary is at least, if not more, dangerous as Trump.  Her poor judgment in the past, deteriorating mental condition and vulnerability to blackmail is a bigger risk, IMHO.



Let's face it. Bernie isn't getting the dem nomination. Because of the corrupt dem system, hillary already has almost enough support from super delegates alone to win. And honestly, hillary absolutely will not win a general election. She has lied too much and has been much too ineffective in leadership positions.

I really wouldn't mind Bernie all that much. Sure taxes would skyrocket, but I'd get free healthcare, legal pot, a campaign financing overhaul and other semi-helpful government assistance. Hillary's gonna crush him though, and she is by far the most corrupt and incompetent candidate.


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Re: Trump tells BLM's Protester to get the hell out [Re: Tipote]
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Re: Trump tells BLM's Protester to get the hell out [Re: Webster10]
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Webster10 said:
cause they chose to be




true, but black people are more likely to come from poorer backgrounds and it is often the a good route to good pay, college degrees and employment


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Re: Trump tells BLM's Protester to get the hell out [Re: Webster10]
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Webster10 said:
Let's face it. Bernie isn't getting the dem nomination. Because of the corrupt dem system, hillary already has almost enough support from super delegates alone to win. And honestly, hillary absolutely will not win a general election. She has lied too much and has been much too ineffective in leadership positions.

I really wouldn't mind Bernie all that much. Sure taxes would skyrocket, but I'd get free healthcare, legal pot, a campaign financing overhaul and other semi-helpful government assistance. Hillary's gonna crush him though, and she is by far the most corrupt and incompetent candidate.



i agree, it would be good but it probably wont happen. at most he will be vice president. i agree hilary should not win but look at the republican alternatives. its not gna be a great choice. it never is.


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Re: Trump tells BLM's Protester to get the hell out [Re: Webster10]
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Webster10 said:
I really wouldn't mind Bernie all that much. Sure taxes would skyrocket, but I'd get free healthcare, legal pot, a campaign financing overhaul and other semi-helpful government assistance. Hillary's gonna crush him though, and she is by far the most corrupt and incompetent candidate.



Unless Hillary gets indicted, which I think is a very real possibility, she'll get the nomination.  The general is a different story though.  She'll get pounded mercilessly.


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Re: Trump tells BLM's Protester to get the hell out [Re: KauaiOrca]
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absolutely but she is still wall streets bitch and has proven experience being shit in government, but at least in government, so its more likely she than the republican will get it. plus she is a woman so women will probably vote for her in large numbers.


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Re: Trump tells BLM's Protester to get the hell out [Re: Tipote]
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Tipote said:
Webster10 said:
Let's face it. Bernie isn't getting the dem nomination. Because of the corrupt dem system, hillary already has almost enough support from super delegates alone to win. And honestly, hillary absolutely will not win a general election. She has lied too much and has been much too ineffective in leadership positions.

I really wouldn't mind Bernie all that much. Sure taxes would skyrocket, but I'd get free healthcare, legal pot, a campaign financing overhaul and other semi-helpful government assistance. Hillary's gonna crush him though, and she is by far the most corrupt and incompetent candidate.



i agree, it would be good but it probably wont happen. at most he will be vice president. i agree hilary should not win but look at the republican alternatives. its not gna be a great choice. it never is.



Bernie is actually one of my lesser preferred candidates, I just like him better than Hillary. My point really was that a republican is very likely to win the general this time around. Bernie is the only hope for dems but they're going to elect a liar just because she has a vag. The liar will plummet in the general and lose to just about any republican. I predict any republican would win besides any of the under-carders, Bush, Christie, and Huckabee.


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Re: Trump tells BLM's Protester to get the hell out [Re: Tipote]
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Tipote said:
absolutely but she is still wall streets bitch and has proven experience being shit in government, but at least in government, so its more likely she than the republican will get it. plus she is a woman so women will probably vote for her in large numbers.



I think her disadvantages out weigh her advantages in the General.  There are many factors indicating an advantage for the GOP this cycle ... more motivated, hard to win 3 cycles in a row, gains in congress and state elections, Obama and Hillary falling numbers and Hillary's age, health and baggage.  I'm just looking at it objectively as I don't really pull very hard for either party.  The candidates I tend to like NEVER get elected so whoever wins will be a disappointment to me.  My prediction is the FBI knocks her out, Biden/Warren get the nomination and it's a nail biter to the tend.


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Re: Trump tells BLM's Protester to get the hell out [Re: KauaiOrca]
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KauaiOrca said:
Webster10 said:
I really wouldn't mind Bernie all that much. Sure taxes would skyrocket, but I'd get free healthcare, legal pot, a campaign financing overhaul and other semi-helpful government assistance. Hillary's gonna crush him though, and she is by far the most corrupt and incompetent candidate.



Unless Hillary gets indicted, which I think is a very real possibility, she'll get the nomination.  The general is a different story though.  She'll get pounded mercilessly.



I really don't see her holding up in the general. The attack from the right will be too fierce. Although if trump, fiorina, cruz or rubio get the R nomination, I don't expect them to be pounded any less. I just think they will hold up better, Hillary is surrounded by way to much shady shit.


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Re: Trump tells BLM's Protester to get the hell out [Re: Webster10]
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Webster10 said:
I really don't see her holding up in the general. The attack from the right will be too fierce. Although if trump, fiorina, cruz or rubio get the R nomination, I don't expect them to be pounded any less. I just think they will hold up better, Hillary is surrounded by way to much shady shit.



I see it the same way.  The fact that her top IT guy pleaded the 5th tells me she's in a lot more trouble than is being reported right now.  Her real problem is obstruction or some type of evidence tampering.  Maybe careless handling of classified documents ... worst case some kind of conspiracy with her whole team.


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Re: Trump tells BLM's Protester to get the hell out [Re: KauaiOrca]
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KauaiOrca said:
Tipote said:
absolutely but she is still wall streets bitch and has proven experience being shit in government, but at least in government, so its more likely she than the republican will get it. plus she is a woman so women will probably vote for her in large numbers.



I think her disadvantages out weigh her advantages in the General.  There are many factors indicating an advantage for the GOP this cycle ... more motivated, hard to win 3 cycles in a row, gains in congress and state elections, Obama and Hillary falling numbers and Hillary's age, health and baggage.  I'm just looking at it objectively as I don't really pull very hard for either party.  The candidates I tend to like NEVER get elected so whoever wins will be a disappointment to me.  My prediction is the FBI knocks her out, Biden/Warren get the nomination and it's a nail biter to the tend.




Warren? Biden? Are they even in it? Or could they get it without doing the primaries? I dont really understand american politics very well.

I agree hilary is crap. As falcon said, her only saving grace is that her husband might be a good sounding board as he seems smart but i wonder how much they even talk..


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