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Re: TRUMP 2020 [Re: qman]
    #25851417 - 03/04/19 10:35 AM (1 year, 8 months ago)

I'm not well-versed in American politics but if that is true he sure is one cruel piece of thing. A puppy for big shot money makers orchestrated by New York Stock Exchange.

His wall is just games, distraction.


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Re: TRUMP 2020 [Re: qman]
    #25851419 - 03/04/19 10:38 AM (1 year, 8 months ago)

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Trump has been a massive failure.

1. US trade deficits at all-time record highs.

2. US Federal deficits exploding higher.

3. Tax cuts only for corporations and the wealthy.

4. Growing wealth and income inequality.

5. Illegals still living and working in the US, no deportations.

6. Trump has called for an increase for legal immigration.

7. No infrastructure investment, he promised trillions, the end result is $0.

8. No manufacturing jobs coming back to the US, in fact many manufacturing jobs are still leaving the nation.




Add absolutely no help with solving our Social Security program even though he said he would


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Re: TRUMP 2020 [Re: qman] * 2
    #25851423 - 03/04/19 10:39 AM (1 year, 8 months ago)

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Trump has been a massive failure.

1. US trade deficits at all-time record highs.

2. US Federal deficits exploding higher.

3. Tax cuts only for corporations and the wealthy.

4. Growing wealth and income inequality.

5. Illegals still living and working in the US, no deportations.

6. Trump has called for an increase for legal immigration.

7. No infrastructure investment, he promised trillions, the end result is $0.

8. No manufacturing jobs coming back to the US, in fact many manufacturing jobs are still leaving the nation.





Trump 2016 was only the overture of the grand opera of fail that Trump 2020 will be.



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Re: TRUMP 2020 [Re: Asante]
    #25851455 - 03/04/19 10:57 AM (1 year, 8 months ago)

It's a shame that reason wasn't enough. Instead we have to vote for the dumbass just to prove a point.


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Re: TRUMP 2020 [Re: qman] * 2
    #25851456 - 03/04/19 10:57 AM (1 year, 8 months ago)

What do you think income inequality means for the country? Tell me how you feel on the subject.


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Re: TRUMP 2020 [Re: XUL] * 1
    #25851473 - 03/04/19 11:08 AM (1 year, 8 months ago)

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What do you think income inequality means for the country? Tell me how you feel on the subject.




The growing wealth and income inequality destroys the fabric of the nation. This is what happens when big money takes over government. The ultimate goal of capitalists is to create debt slaves out of the peasants and thus far its been mission accomplished.

There is no turning around this ship in my opinion, there is no driving to a voting booth to fix it. As the debt in the system continues to grow, the worse it's going to get for the peasants.

The next goal is to cut off the peasants from the current social services, it's inevitable.


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Re: TRUMP 2020 [Re: qman] * 2
    #25851483 - 03/04/19 11:12 AM (1 year, 8 months ago)

How much of the population is unequal from each other, do you think?


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Re: TRUMP 2020 [Re: XUL]
    #25851529 - 03/04/19 11:51 AM (1 year, 8 months ago)

The world looks at the first election of trump as a mistake. A second election they will lose all respect for the US. Not that we have a lot left. They middle of the country will fare even worse. The Democratic portions of the country are the economic engines and we are just going to write off the magaheads are worthless trash who are driving this country into the dump. Not that we don’t already think that.


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Re: TRUMP 2020 [Re: koods] * 2
    #25851536 - 03/04/19 11:55 AM (1 year, 8 months ago)

Hey man, if there is someone better than Trump, then I am all in.

Until then, I am a Trumper.


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    #25851538 - 03/04/19 11:58 AM (1 year, 8 months ago)

A random person chosen out of the phone book is more competent than trump


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Re: TRUMP 2020 [Re: koods] * 2
    #25851542 - 03/04/19 12:00 PM (1 year, 8 months ago)

Oh hehe haha.

But seriously. And I mean in the conservative side of course.

Otherwise, I should just stop voting at all.


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    #25851558 - 03/04/19 12:10 PM (1 year, 8 months ago)

The problem with Trump, beyond just a lack of qualifications, is that everything he says and does goes against your best interests. Ideologically you've been convinced to support politicians based on key persuading points, meanwhile their voting records conclusively benefit people that aren't you. It's not that hard to see, you have just chosen not to see it.


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Re: TRUMP 2020 [Re: qman] * 2
    #25851567 - 03/04/19 12:14 PM (1 year, 8 months ago)

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Quote:

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What do you think income inequality means for the country? Tell me how you feel on the subject.




The growing wealth and income inequality destroys the fabric of the nation. This is what happens when big money takes over government. The ultimate goal of capitalists is to create debt slaves out of the peasants and thus far its been mission accomplished.

There is no turning around this ship in my opinion, there is no driving to a voting booth to fix it. As the debt in the system continues to grow, the worse it's going to get for the peasants.

The next goal is to cut off the peasants from the current social services, it's inevitable.





Thats why the system must crash sooner rather than later, so that the population is not further weakened, debt is not further increased and the income inequality isnt as skewed as it will be. No matter whether you vote donkey or elephant, you'll get the Oligarchy's choice, so the only shot is the canduidate who fucks up the system so badly that it ceases to function and needs to be restarted. Not a president to save the plane but one to run it into the ground as soon as possible because of executive incompetence. That's Trump.

Sometimes a system must be replaced. This will only be done if it fails, catastrophically.

TRUMP 2020.


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Re: TRUMP 2020 [Re: XUL] * 3
    #25851576 - 03/04/19 12:17 PM (1 year, 8 months ago)



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Re: TRUMP 2020 [Re: koods]
    #25851581 - 03/04/19 12:19 PM (1 year, 8 months ago)

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The world looks at the first election of trump as a mistake. A second election they will lose all respect for the US. Not that we have a lot left. They middle of the country will fare even worse. The Democratic portions of the country are the economic engines and we are just going to write off the magaheads are worthless trash who are driving this country into the dump. Not that we don’t already think that.




Much of the world wouldn't respect Hillary being US President, so who cares what some of them might think?


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Re: TRUMP 2020 [Re: christopera]
    #25851591 - 03/04/19 12:22 PM (1 year, 8 months ago)

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The problem with Trump, beyond just a lack of qualifications, is that everything he says and does goes against your best interests. Ideologically you've been convinced to support politicians based on key persuading points, meanwhile their voting records conclusively benefit people that aren't you. It's not that hard to see, you have just chosen not to see it.




Everything you just stated applies to every politician, including the "liberals" in the Democratic Party.


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    #25851599 - 03/04/19 12:26 PM (1 year, 8 months ago)

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How much of the population is unequal from each other, do you think?




https://www.forbes.com/sites/noahkirsch/2017/11/09/the-3-richest-americans-hold-more-wealth-than-bottom-50-of-country-study-finds/#2303a06e3cf8

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wealth_inequality_in_the_United_States

"Bottom 80% owning 7%...financial assets"




And what do you propose we do?

Second, would you turn this country socialist in order to solve wealth inequality?


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Re: TRUMP 2020 [Re: XUL]
    #25851610 - 03/04/19 12:35 PM (1 year, 8 months ago)

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Quote:

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Quote:

XUL said:
How much of the population is unequal from each other, do you think?




https://www.forbes.com/sites/noahkirsch/2017/11/09/the-3-richest-americans-hold-more-wealth-than-bottom-50-of-country-study-finds/#2303a06e3cf8

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wealth_inequality_in_the_United_States

"Bottom 80% owning 7%...financial assets"




And what do you propose we do?

Second, would you turn this country socialist in order to solve wealth inequality?




Well, it's not by pure chance how we got here, it's deliberate. So do the opposite of the policies that got us here.

This power grab can't be done in the current political system, people don't just give away power and wealth to peasants driving to the voting booth. :lol:


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    #25851622 - 03/04/19 12:38 PM (1 year, 8 months ago)

So you declare our case hopeless?

No way man.

What would you do to fix it if you could do anything?


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Re: TRUMP 2020 [Re: qman]
    #25851715 - 03/04/19 01:05 PM (1 year, 8 months ago)

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The problem with Trump, beyond just a lack of qualifications, is that everything he says and does goes against your best interests. Ideologically you've been convinced to support politicians based on key persuading points, meanwhile their voting records conclusively benefit people that aren't you. It's not that hard to see, you have just chosen not to see it.




Everything you just stated applies to every politician, including the "liberals" in the Democratic Party.




While I don't disagree, I also don't think it's that black and white. There are degrees of effectualness at play. One side definitively is less bad, and the other is more bad, neither are 100% good or bad. You just have to sort out the nonsense.


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